9000 Installed....

[oldguy00]

Just finished installing 9000 on my Cervelo S3. Wow! Finally a group that feels as slick, or more so, than 7800, and WAY better feeling than 7900 (Shimano's worst group ever??).

[JAGI410]

So you're saying it feels nearly as good as Campagnolo Veloce? /oldpotatoe

Where's the pictures?!

[Nebby]

The front shifting on 9000 is simply amazing.

[phcollard]

Pictures or it did not happen!

[tigoat]

:no:If you want amazing shifting, then you will need to go all the way to 9070.:)

[Nebby]

:no:If you want amazing shifting, then you will need to go all the way to 9070.:)

Haha, it's really really nice though. Close enough, I say ;)

[oldguy00]

Pictures or it did not happen!



http://i57.tinypic.com/2bo8l5.jpg

[oldguy00]

So you're saying it feels nearly as good as Campagnolo Veloce? /oldpotatoe

Where's the pictures?!

I haven't used any of the electronic groups, but I've had all the others, all the shimano, red, force, and super record 11. The 9000/9001 feels the best, and that is on a frame that is known to have difficulty getting shifting tuned up well due to the routing.

[phcollard]

Wow. That is quite a ride!!! :eek::eek::eek:

[saab2000]

Why does everyone go nuts for the front shifting on the 9000? I have a bike with it's fine but it is only doing what it should.

My Campagnolo stuff is 3 clicks up and 3 clicks down and in the big ring it needs no trimming.

This is not a Campagnolo v. Shimano thing but what am I missing? I shift the front lever over on the Shimano and it drives the chain onto the big ring. Then I click the small lever and it goes back to the small ring.

Seriously, it's good stuff. But I don't get all the gushing over the front shifting (or the rear shifting). It's essentially identical in function to my other bikes that don't use Shimano.

All that said, I also find no fault in it. I'm glad I got it and I enjoy using it.

BTW, that's a great looking (and I'm sure riding) Cervelo!

[oldguy00]

Saab,
Most other groups I've tried had shifted OK as you describe, 7900 being the exception, it just plain sucked for me.
With 9000, it wasn't just the fact that it shifted properly, 7800 and SR11 did that for me as well, it is just how buttery smooth it feels to me. Maybe it has a little bit to do with the new coated cables they use? Not sure. YMMV!

[oldpotatoe]

Why does everyone go nuts for the front shifting on the 9000? I have a bike with it's fine but it is only doing what it should.

MY Campagnolo stuff is 3 clicks up and 3 clicks down and in the big ring it needs no trimming.

This is not a Campagnolo v. Shimano thing but what am I missing? I shift the front lever over on the Shimano and it drives the chain onto the big ring. Then I click the small lever and it goes back to the small ring.

Seriously, it's good stuff. But I don't get all the gushing over the front shifting (or the rear shifting). It's essentially identical in function to my other bikes that don't use Shimano.

All that said, I also find no fault in it. I'm glad I got it and I enjoy using it.

BTW, that's a great looking (and I'm sure riding) Cervelo!

9000/6800 and probably 5800 is nice stuff but I kinda don't get it either. 2013, shimano came up with a group that did the things 2009 SR/Record/Chorus did...

shimano does what Campagnolo does, 'almost' as well..still only one higher gear at a time for the Rder, for shimano mechanical..AND ya better use the $20 per shifter cables or it feels like 7900.

[oldguy00]

9000/6800 and probably 5800 is nice stuff but I kinda don't get it either. 2013, shimano came up with a group that did the things 2009 SR/Record/Chorus did...

'almost' as well..still only one higher gear at a time for the Rder, for shimano mechanical..AND ya better use the $20 per shifter cables or it feels like 7900.

Not sure if you mean that 9000 is -almost- as well as the campy, or the other way around? Again, just my experience with a couple of recent campy builds. They are smooth, but I find the shifting just as smooth or better on the shimano, and feels more precise to me.
As for the cables, you may be right! But if if they last one Summer, I'm fine with dropping $40 once per year to replace the two shift cables.

[oldpotatoe]

Not sure if you mean that 9000 is -almost- as well as the campy, or the other way around? Again, just my experience with a couple of recent campy builds. They are smooth, but I find the shifting just as smooth or better on the shimano, and feels more precise to me.
As for the cables, you may be right! But if if they last one Summer, I'm fine with dropping $40 once per year to replace the two shift cables.

Not being able to shift to more than one higher gear at a time, for shimano, 'almost' as functional. PLUS until 6800, 9000 was as unique as 7400 DA 8s..not compatible with anything anywhere in their lineup...

Not to mention no 10s hub use for 11s.

9000 is nice but I don't get the $..6800 seems like 90% of 9000, at 50% of the price..even less for 5800...Methinks 6800 and 5800 aimed directly at force and rival, sram and OE...

[oldguy00]

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9000 is nice but I don't get the $..6800 seems like 90% of 9000, at 50% of the price..even less for 5800...Methinks 6800 and 5800 aimed directly at force and rival, sram and OE...

Isn't that the same in the Campy line too, small improvements for big $$ diff as you move up the line?
Anyway, I like SR11 a lot too (and the Record 11 group I tried). Just personal preference I guess.

[saab2000]

I rarely feel the need to shift more than one gear at a time so that's a non-starter for me.

It's all good stuff.

The 5800 will be the sleeper of the lineup. It's going to work as well as D/A in a blind test and cost a fraction of the price.

And please, no C v. S wars! It's all good stuff! I enjoy all my bikes, even the one with Shimano!

[oldguy00]

Funny how SRAM ain't gettin' much love.....lol
As much as I disliked 7900, SRAM Red wasn't far behind..... :)

[oldpotatoe]

Isn't that the same in the Campy line too, small improvements for big $$ diff as you move up the line?
Anyway, I like SR11 a lot too (and the Record 11 group I tried). Just personal preference I guess.

SR, lots of titanium($1000 crank), Record, less titanium, more carbon than Chorus. Materials wise, 6800 and 9000 are almost indentical..

Seems like 9000 should be cheaper or 6800 more expensive. I don't see why a 9000 crank should be $750(normal MSRP). Aluminum. Not saying carbon is an answer to anything but it's more expensive than aluminum. Record crank-about $750-normal MSRP..

[Joachim]

Given that others brought up the Campy vs Shimano front shifting. I've had Chorus, Record and SR (still have SR) and now ride 9000 also. Yes, they all put the chain on the big ring from the small ring and vice versa. Even SRAM does that (sometimes), SunTour and down tube friction shifters. That's not the point. It's how it FEELS when it does it. Much less resistance going from small to big chainring with 9000 and the cables (incl brake) stay smooth much longer than Campy. 9000 front shifting is better than SR, there I said it.

[Gummee]

I built a few bikes for the shop with the new 6800 stuff on it a bit ago. Till then, I was a staunch 'I don't need no steenkeen 11sp stuff!'

Now, 2 of 4 bikes are either 6800 or 6800 with a 9k set of shifters.

2 more to go.

That front derailleur IS that nice. ...considering I'm going to have to re-hub (or sell and re-buy) half a dozen pairs of wheels, me committing to 11sp took some convincing.

M