Taylor's shifters-Separated at birth?

[oldpotatoe]

Too early to ride. We'll see if this upload works.

Ackk too small..oh well...'thumb' button about the same place.

try again

[Black Dog]

:confused: Can you tell us what we looking at here? Get some coffee on board and help us out. :help:

[oldpotatoe]

:confused: Can you tell us what we looking at here? Get some coffee on board and help us out. :help:

Picture of Taylor's BMC for Flanders..wee little remote shifters just below the hoods..make them look like EPS thumb buttons, almost..don't know how to make the Taylor pic bigger..maybe some IT can??

Like I said, too cold to ride yet...

[mvrider]

Here's another view:

http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2014/04/04/1396636668021-2rxtqjmkjvv-800-75.jpg

[oldpotatoe]

Here's another view:

http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/news/2014/04/04/1396636668021-2rxtqjmkjvv-800-75.jpg

Grazie..this 'puter stuff...but the 'thumb' button..ala the same almost, yes?

[tiretrax]

It's lower and smaller, so, IMHO, it's like saying Julia Roberts is almost Cindy Crawford (I'll show my age with that one).

Without using them, I think I prefer the DA button since it's out of the way and would be harder to hit accidentally when riding on the drops.

[RacerJRP]

That is in-line product from Shimano. Sprint shifter.

[enr1co]

For my hands, the overall Campy lever body shape is more "ergo" and the larger downshift button is not an issue for me.

The smaller button looks to require a little more bar taping proficiency- not and issue for some experienced DIY-ers but could be a little tricky for some not-so-experienced with the art of bar tape.

[oldpotatoe]

That is in-line product from Shimano. Sprint shifter.

Yeh

[hockeybike]

For my hands, the overall Campy lever body shape is more "ergo" and the larger downshift button is not an issue for me.

The smaller button looks to require a little more bar taping proficiency- not and issue for some experienced DIY-ers but could be a little tricky for some not-so-experienced with the art of bar tape.

Looks like they fixed the sprint button in place, taped over it, and then cut out a square around the sprint button. Not too hard to do, I think.

[MattTuck]

Looks like they fixed the sprint button in place, taped over it, and then cut out a square around the sprint button. Not too hard to do, I think.

Not too elegant either.

[Black Dog]

Thanks. Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

[shovelhd]

I have them on my Felt. Shimano gives you a little template to cut the bar tape with. I chose not to.

[ptourkin]

The people who built my road bike did a more elegant hack that is closer to the Campy version and looks a little better than TP's before the official sprint shifters were released. It's a nice touch.

[Louis]

Thanks. Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

You mean like Campy coming out with EPS shortly after Shimano brought Di2 to market? ;)

[thirdgenbird]

You mean like Campy coming out with EPS shortly after Shimano brought Di2 to market? ;)

All evidence points to eps coming before di2. Both of which were obviously after zap/mektronic, but that's beside the point. Campagnolo had near production quality electronic shifting in the pro peloton when di2 was still very much in prototype stages.

Campy 2005:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/tech/news/apr05/bike3.jpg

[Louis]

Which system was in LBSs first?

Edit: Or on new production bikes.

(agreed - the other guys like Mektronic don't count in this game)

[pbarry]

Say what you will, but Mavic's innovation, despite flaws, was certainly more than a little motivation to go e for the big two. :)

[thirdgenbird]

Which system was in LBSs first?

Edit: Or on new production bikes.

That is irrelevant to your original comment. Well, maybe it's not if you believe campagnolo never intended to sell their electronic group until the saw shimano do it. Im guessing campagnolo always intended to sell it. They are in the business of making money after all.

[Louis]

I'm joking of course, and we're just fooling around, but my point is that Shimano had a production-ready design before Campy. (this is just S vs C foolishness and basically in the Ginger vs Mary Ann category of meaningless)

http://img.totaloutdoornetwork.com/UserFiles/8/88/8833/Mary-Ann-Gilligan-Ginger.jpg

[thirdgenbird]

I'm joking of course, and we're just fooling around, but my point is that Shimano had a production-ready design before Campy.

Are you referring to nexave di2? :)

[Louis]

Are you referring to nexave di2? :)

Maybe - but since I'm still a DT shifter user I don't have all the dates for these newfangled gizmos memorized.

[thirdgenbird]

I don't either. I do know nexave di2 came out before dura ace di2. EPS was apparently production ready between the two but Campagnolo held back releasing it for financial and market reasons.

In an odd twist of fate, Sachs also had speedtronic so the argument could be made that SRAM beat both of them to market :eek:

[oldpotatoe]

:)I don't either. I do know nexave di2 came out before dura ace di2. EPS was apparently production ready between the two but Campagnolo held back releasing it for financial and market reasons.

In an odd twist of fate, Sachs also had speedtronic so the argument could be made that SRAM beat both of them to market :eek:

Way before sram bought this component maker, like they did with so many others, since they couldn't figure it out themselves.:hello::)

[thirdgenbird]

It was intentionally a stretch with the intent of poking fun at sram.

[Black Dog]

Did campy not hold backp because they were bringing 11 speed about the same time and decided to wait on electronic to allow 11 speed to gain traction and to perfect EPS.

[oldpotatoe]

Did campy not hold backp because they were bringing 11 speed about the same time and decided to wait on electronic to allow 11 speed to gain traction and to perfect EPS.

No, EPS predates 11s(2009) by probably 5-6 years. It was in the Giro, I think in 2002/3, working well, transfer with bikes on top of cars, lotsa rain, it didn't work the next morning, back to drawing board to make it waterproof.

But EPS had been in development for about 15 years.