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Ti Designs
03-27-2014, 08:41 AM
I've been running Dura-Ace 9-speed since I switched from down tube shifters and 7-speed in the mid 90's. As you can see, the stuff has a little wear on it, but it works perfectly. Today I found the advantage of 9-speed - gearing selection! I'm doing two weeks of intervals on the trainer ('cause the weather sucks and I'm kinda serious about my fitness this year). Last week I was using the standard 39/53, and that worked just fine. My baseline gear (baseline is the workload between intervals) was in the 39, and it was easy enough for me to recover in time for the next interval. This week that's become too easy. My normal road set-up is a set of FSA tandem chainrings in 44/55 (if I open a gap before a down hill town line, you're not catching me, I have a 55x11 and I know how to use it) but the 44 is too large for baseline, when I bring it up to 85 RPMs from rest I'm above zone 3. So, I found a Shimano TT ring in 54 that works perfectly with a 42. Let's see you do that with Dura-Ace 9000...

FlashUNC
03-27-2014, 08:53 AM
Shimano sells a 54-42 for Dura-Ace 9000.

oldpotatoe
03-27-2014, 09:02 AM
Shimano sells a 54-42 for Dura-Ace 9000.

54t are for Nancy's.....

Plus 10s and even 11s chainrings work fine with 7700, cranks, shifters, front ders.

Ti Designs
03-27-2014, 10:52 AM
54t are for Nancy's.....


Yeh that'w why my road bike has this...

Admiral Ackbar
03-27-2014, 11:02 AM
i always enjoy your posts mr.Ti Designs, its nice to see someone who isn't concerned about having the latest and greatest, prettiest, or most sought after.

nice looking home shop you've got too

Ti Designs
03-27-2014, 11:19 AM
There's a little detail in the photo of my bike and shop for Oldpotatoe...

beeatnik
03-27-2014, 11:25 AM
Nice stealth brag, Ti.

I hear you about the 55x11 doe.

merlinmurph
03-27-2014, 11:33 AM
...I'm constantly looking for ways to lower my gearing....

oldpotatoe
03-27-2014, 12:10 PM
There's a little detail in the photo of my bike and shop for Oldpotatoe...

Wow you are way more flexible than I.

Jaq
03-27-2014, 12:16 PM
The road called. It wants its grime back. ;)

shinomaster
03-27-2014, 12:16 PM
Wow, they must salt the roads a lot in Boston.

El Chaba
03-27-2014, 12:19 PM
Somebody has gotten his money's worth out of those parts....

ultraman6970
03-27-2014, 12:22 PM
If the rider is good, he can cause damage in a group riding steel, 6 or 7 speed (heck even with 5) freewheels and downshifters w/o any problem.

Soon we will have 12 speeds and like half of the planet will move to that. personally I was still in racing wieght I would continue using my 42/52 with 6 speeds. Can't move my ass now and I dont use even a half of the cassette :D

redir
03-27-2014, 12:24 PM
Depends on the down hill. I've never found the need for anything more than a 53x12. When it goes down I can easily catch people on an 11 just by tucking and rolling. That's what 6'4" 210lbs does for ya ;) Plus I can corner on rails :p

I also am still using Dura-Ace 9-Speed. I like changing cables without removing bar tape too! ;)

fiamme red
03-27-2014, 12:28 PM
If you ever ride with me, you're welcome to take all the downhill town line sprints. I won't contest them. :)

Ti Designs
03-27-2014, 01:00 PM
Wow you are way more flexible than I.

I was talking about the 30 year old Campagnolo luggage on the floor on the right side...

leftyfreak
03-27-2014, 01:06 PM
Wow you are way more flexible than I.

But it takes him 20 minutes to return to vertical when he gets off the bike...

oldpotatoe
03-27-2014, 01:45 PM
I was talking about the 30 year old Campagnolo luggage on the floor on the right side...

I'm talking about the delta 10 inches, saddle to stem height(or whatever it is.....way more than mine, about 4cm...

I got some of that luggage too and an 80th one too.

Ti Designs
03-27-2014, 03:54 PM
I'm talking about the delta 10 inches, saddle to stem height(or whatever it is.....way more than mine, about 4cm...

That doesn't change much either. I have a posterior herniation at L4/L5, angle at the hips is actually decompression of that part of my spine. I have almost no weight on the bars and it has the added bonus of making me more aero. When I went to Serotta fit school they wanted to raise my stem by 10cm. I wanted to give it a fair try, but it was unridable for me. I've also been a test case for a number of the fitters at my shop. The one who passed was smart enough not to mess with a serious injury and a position that works for it... I'm going to Retul fit school in two weeks - can't wait to see where they think I should be.

oldpotatoe
03-27-2014, 04:44 PM
That doesn't change much either. I have a posterior herniation at L4/L5, angle at the hips is actually decompression of that part of my spine. I have almost no weight on the bars and it has the added bonus of making me more aero. When I went to Serotta fit school they wanted to raise my stem by 10cm. I wanted to give it a fair try, but it was unridable for me. I've also been a test case for a number of the fitters at my shop. The one who passed was smart enough not to mess with a serious injury and a position that works for it... I'm going to Retul fit school in two weeks - can't wait to see where they think I should be.

Maybe you'll meet Synard, since he owns it.

Uncle Jam's Army
03-27-2014, 04:51 PM
But this one goes to 11

pbarry
03-27-2014, 05:23 PM
i always enjoy your posts mr.Ti Designs, its nice to see someone who isn't concerned about having the latest and greatest, prettiest, or most sought after.

But does seem concerned with who has the biggest. You win, Ed. :banana:

leftyfreak
03-27-2014, 05:43 PM
But does seem concerned with who has the biggest. You win, Ed. :banana:

He took the easy way out when we rode Mt. Greylock in the Berkshires of Western MA, though--53/39 with a 25 in the back...

pbarry
03-27-2014, 06:05 PM
He took the easy way out when we rode Mt. Greylock in the Berkshires of Western MA, though--53/39 with a 25 in the back...

Short and steep can be done in a 42 x 21 if you follow ancient training techniques. ;)

leftyfreak
03-27-2014, 07:30 PM
Short and steep can be done in a 42 x 21 if you follow ancient training techniques. ;)

With me "pacing" him up the climb, no ancient training technique could prepare him for sustaining the cadence that would result from having a 42x21!

pbarry
03-27-2014, 08:09 PM
With me "pacing" him up the climb, no ancient training technique could prepare him for sustaining the cadence that would result from having a 42x21!

Gotta work harder then. :rolleyes:

Tandem Rider
03-27-2014, 09:24 PM
I consider myself lucky to have survived the 42x21 era with my hips intact. The advantage of being older is my ego can more easily be overwhelmed by common sense. That wasn't always the case.

djg
03-28-2014, 05:22 AM
I like the old crank.

But the chain makes me wanna cry. That's from riding on the trainer?

Exonerv
03-29-2014, 06:12 AM
Wonder what your thoughts are on this thread?

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=146173


That doesn't change much either. I have a posterior herniation at L4/L5, angle at the hips is actually decompression of that part of my spine. I have almost no weight on the bars and it has the added bonus of making me more aero. When I went to Serotta fit school they wanted to raise my stem by 10cm. I wanted to give it a fair try, but it was unridable for me. I've also been a test case for a number of the fitters at my shop. The one who passed was smart enough not to mess with a serious injury and a position that works for it... I'm going to Retul fit school in two weeks - can't wait to see where they think I should be.