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jpw
03-27-2014, 06:16 AM
http://baumcycles.com/road-ristretto-steel/

Are these frames stainless steel, or do they have to be painted?

cfox
03-27-2014, 07:02 AM
Looks like a mix to me, depending on the bike. He mentions they mix Reynolds, Columbus, and Dedaccai, and only two of those tube makers make stainless. It's sure pretty, but from the description it sounds like the thing would dent if you looked at it too hard.

avalonracing
03-27-2014, 07:08 AM
http://baumcycles.com/road-ristretto-steel/

Are these frames stainless steel, or do they have to be painted?

That is one fine looking orange bike!

jmoore
03-27-2014, 08:33 AM
The more I look at their bikes, the more I like them.

j_roe
03-27-2014, 08:47 AM
The more I look at their bikes, the more I like them.

agreed.

tiretrax
03-27-2014, 09:05 AM
Beautiful bikes, but a high price. Is it the importation cost that makes them so much more expensive than our premium US frame makers?

RedRider
03-27-2014, 09:12 AM
Baum have been very successful since their intro into the US. Regardless of why they are "expensive" the demand is strong and there is a waiting list. Customers clearly see value. They have painted titanium bikes with great colors and schemes and bucked the trend of polished/matte finishes.

MadRocketSci
03-27-2014, 09:36 AM
Beautiful bikes, but a high price. Is it the importation cost that makes them so much more expensive than our premium US frame makers?

they put a lot of work into those bikes, yes, but 10 or so years ago the Au dollar was half the price in US $ it is now...

gearguywb
03-27-2014, 10:24 AM
I contacted them some months back about a frame. The conversion rate to the dollar killed the deal.

jpw
03-27-2014, 12:52 PM
Baum have been very successful since their intro into the US. Regardless of why they are "expensive" the demand is strong and there is a waiting list. Customers clearly see value. They have painted titanium bikes with great colors and schemes and bucked the trend of polished/matte finishes.

isn't it time to update your web page?

donevwil
03-27-2014, 01:05 PM
I give them a big :banana: for offering stock geometries for tall people who are normally proportioned (none of that 65cm seat tubes with 58cm top tube silliness). Top tubes up to 63cm? Hell yes. Such stock geometries haven't been offered since Serotta.

oldpotatoe
03-27-2014, 01:49 PM
I give them a big :banana: for offering stock geometries for tall people who are normally proportioned (none of that 65cm seat tubes with 58cm top tube silliness). Top tubes up to 63cm? Hell yes. Such stock geometries haven't been offered since Serotta.

Biggest Gunnar roadie is a 68 with a 65 top tube.

RedRider
03-27-2014, 02:17 PM
isn't it time to update your web page?

A new Savile Road website is under development. We are not a Baum dealer if that's why you mentioned it in this thread.
Check out our Facebook page for the latest...
https://www.facebook.com/SavileBicycles

joep2517
03-27-2014, 02:36 PM
There is a shop in the SF area that carries Baum. I was there last September and was able to look at Baums. Without riding them, I can say that their welds were pretty tight, the paint jobs were very nice and they weren't cheap (but the same was true about the Pegs they had in the shop.

oldpotatoe
03-27-2014, 02:41 PM
There is a shop in the SF area that carries Baum. I was there last September and was able to look at Baums. Without riding them, I can say that their welds were pretty tight, the paint jobs were very nice and they weren't cheap (but the same was true about the Pegs they had in the shop.

Above Catagory ? Chad is a good guy, vet also.

RedRider
03-27-2014, 02:59 PM
As I understand, Above Category, in Sausalito, is the only US dealer.

tiretrax
03-27-2014, 03:53 PM
Baum have been very successful since their intro into the US. Regardless of why they are "expensive" the demand is strong and there is a waiting list. Customers clearly see value. They have painted titanium bikes with great colors and schemes and bucked the trend of polished/matte finishes.

I'm not knocking Baum. They make gorgeous bikes. But, I am pretty certain I can buy a custom moots, firefly, indy fab, etc. for less and have it painted by Joe Bell if needed.

But, that's not my query - is there a large duty assessed on bike frames?

Yes - AC is a fantastic shop stocking beautiful merchandise.

MadRocketSci
03-27-2014, 04:44 PM
i dunno about import duties, but i'm sure AC gets their cut and for that kinda coin you might as well fly out to Geelong and go test ride with and get fit by Darren himself and make a vaca out of it....money better spent than on a middleman IMO.

tiretrax
03-27-2014, 04:51 PM
i dunno about import duties, but i'm sure AC gets their cut and for that kinda coin you might as well fly out to Geelong and go test ride with and get fit by Darren himself and make a vaca out of it....money better spent than on a middleman IMO.

Agreed; a cycling vacation in Oz would be nice.

hainy
03-27-2014, 04:54 PM
http://baumcycles.com/road-ristretto-steel/

Are these frames stainless steel, or do they have to be painted?


I have the steel Espresso and the Ristretto is classified as a pure race bike and as one reply said it is built to finest torrance so any slight touch will dent it.

Pretty sure none of the tubing is SS

I am aussie so 1AUD = 1AUD and no import for me

binxnyrwarrsoul
03-27-2014, 04:59 PM
Baum. Meh, nice paint.

jpw
03-28-2014, 01:14 AM
I have the steel Espresso and the Ristretto is classified as a pure race bike and as one reply said it is built to finest torrance so any slight touch will dent it.

Pretty sure none of the tubing is SS

I am aussie so 1AUD = 1AUD and no import for me

I don't see your Espresso listed on Baum's website. Has it been replaced by the Cortado?

hainy
03-28-2014, 03:52 AM
yep, replaced by the cortado.

tigoat
03-28-2014, 04:37 AM
I'm not knocking Baum. They make gorgeous bikes. But, I am pretty certain I can buy a custom moots, firefly, indy fab, etc. for less and have it painted by Joe Bell if needed.

But, that's not my query - is there a large duty assessed on bike frames?

Yes - AC is a fantastic shop stocking beautiful merchandise.

Totally agree with your assessment. There are so many great Ti or steel frames made in the US to be had so there is no reason to look elsewhere. Wouldn't it be best to leave a dream painting scheme to a specialist like Joe Bell or Spectrum instead of a builder?

happycampyer
03-28-2014, 07:20 AM
Totally agree with your assessment. There are so many great Ti or steel frames made in the US to be had so there is no reason to look elsewhere. Wouldn't it be best to leave a dream painting scheme to a specialist like Joe Bell or Spectrum instead of a builder?This really depends, doesn't it? There are different elements to a great paint job—there's the graphic design component (design, color combinations, etc.), and then there's the quality of the painting itself. Not all great painters are great graphic designers (and not all builders are, either). There are a handful of builders that have an incredible eye (imo) for graphic design. Tyler (Firefly) is one—I can't think of a Firefly that I've seen that I didn't like, and virtually no two are alike. Two other builders that come to mind are Sacha White and Dario Pegoretti (probably more polarizing than Baum, Firefly, etc.). The newer Baum paint schemes are distinctive—you know immediately that it's a Baum—and the color combinations are typically sharp.

So part of the experience of getting a bike from one of these builders is also having the paint scheme designed by them—at least that's how I think of it. Of course, there nothing wrong with having SPW, JB, or other great painter paint one's frame, it's just a different experience.

corky
03-28-2014, 07:26 AM
IF just won the NAHBS award for best finishing......, just sayin'

PS. all Baums' look too much the same IMHO

joep2517
03-28-2014, 08:22 AM
Above Catagory ? Chad is a good guy, vet also.

Yep, that's the shop. I was at their old shop. It was like walking into a candy store. Way too many beautiful bikes.

Waldo
03-28-2014, 10:02 PM
To respond to questions about import duties, US and Oz have a free trade agreement, so duties weren't an issue for my Llewellyn a few years ago.


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