Am I to Fat???

[Shoeman]

Have a line on a wheelset for a good price. H Plus Son Archtype 20h radial front with 24h 2cross rear laced to a set of Chris King r45's. Slow OG recreational type rider I weigh 190-200lbs. Am I to FAT for these wheels?????????

[oldpotatoe]

Have a line on a wheelset for a good price. H Plus Son Archtype 20h radial front with 24h 2cross rear laced to a set of Chris King r45's. Slow OG recreational type rider I weigh 190-200lbs. Am I to FAT for these wheels?????????

Hate to label anybody but 32 rear/28 front with those rims would be a better choice for you. Add 16 spokes, 4 ounces, gain bunches of reliability.

"No such thing as a free lunch"

[Pete Mckeon]

is my thoughts for you and these. They will have e tendancy to go out of true or flat spots with that build, As the Master Pete said in other note the weight saved on them is for what purpose of yours? I weigh about that and have never had good luck with that type of build. ;) ole slow pete

[RedRider]

The other perspective sounds better...Those wheels are too light for you and your style of riding.

[pdmtong]

Have a line on a wheelset for a good price. H Plus Son Archtype 20h radial front with 24h 2cross rear laced to a set of Chris King r45's. Slow OG recreational type rider I weigh 190-200lbs. Am I to FAT for these wheels?????????

I wouldnt call anyone fat (but myself)

I'm 170 and debated even a 24h radial front.

I decided that for all around no worries I would just go with 28h 2x f/r...

Set and forget. Teeth are important. No one plans to hit a pothole.

Like OP says...its only 4oz and 16 spokes...

[josephr]

is my thoughts for you and these. They will have e tendancy to go out of true or flat spots with that build, As the Master Pete said in other note the weight saved on them is for what purpose of yours? I weigh about that and have never had good luck with that type of build. ;) ole slow pete

weighed 200 on the dot at the doc's office yesterday...I'd be a little worried to ride those, even with nice roads.
Joe

[zzy]

Too fat? No. Will they last until the brake track goes concave? Probably not. If you want a light set of wheels for racing and occasional use you'll probably be fine, as Archetypes are decently strong rims. But if you're out there beating them up in training, yeah, bad idea. 24/28 would probably be your minimum for that (32h 3x ideally).

[msl819]

Have a line on a wheelset for a good price. H Plus Son Archtype 20h radial front with 24h 2cross rear laced to a set of Chris King r45's. Slow OG recreational type rider I weigh 190-200lbs. Am I to FAT for these wheels?????????

I have asked similar questions and in the same nice way Old Potatoe also told me I was fat. But seriously, listen to him, he certainly knows what he is talking about. I ride 36 hole at about 215 and have been more than pleased.

[Gsinill]

Agree with what was said before...
Had 20/28 on my Fuji Cross. I am about 210 and had to re-true a lot, especially the rear wheel.
After 2 snapped spokes, I decided to go 32/32 and never had an issue again. If I skipped that 3rd roll at breakfast, I'd make up 5 times the weight of the additional spokes/nipples ;)

[Ken Robb]

I think whatever theoretical aero advantage the wheels might provide would only be available at speeds you won't reach so why give up reliability of 32 hole wheels?

[ColonelJLloyd]

I don't think fat can ever be used as a verb. Not sure if you're too fat for the wheels or not, but I would go with Commander Potato's advice. I weigh a little over 200 pounds and I ride 32/28 A23s with double butted spokes. I'd ride 28/24 with CX-Rays.

[oldpotatoe]

I don't think fat can ever be used as a verb. Not sure if you're too fat for the wheels or not, but I would go with Commander Potato's advice. I weigh a little over 200 pounds and I ride 32/28 A23s with double butted spokes. I'd ride 28/24 with CX-Rays.

Commander PotatoE and thinner spokes are not a better idea for less or similar build, in spite of Sapim's 'copy'.

[dsimon]

Wow a weight questions damn this sucks.... I have R45 to Ambrosio SSC 28 F&R 2x both and think that this is lowest count I would go. I am very easy on wheels and wouldn't feel comfortable on 24' unless they were easton/velmax but then they would be so stiff that i wouldnt be happy with the ride.. I ride so I can eat

[zachateseveryth]

I'm 150 pounds and I wouldn't want to run a 20 spoke radial front wheel.

[charliedid]

Yes

[jischr]

Disclaimer - I'm not a pro or semi pro wheel builder or a racer, just a 60 y/o end user.

I’m 190-200 lbs most years, maybe 18 mph average for 1,500-2,000 miles a year on mostly smooth roads and paved trails, though seasonal chip and seal does occur. In other words I’m pretty easy on wheels. I rode used Mavic Kysrium Elites (18/24) for three years and used Campagnolo Neutrons (22/26?) for the last year. No issues with either. The Neutrons are on one bike and the Mavics are on the garage wall if ever needed. The wheels before that were 3X 32/32 OP on shimano 105 hubs, those are on my steel bike. The Neutrons look so much faster at a stop sign, spin up quicker at any speed, and make me feel like I’m still in the game. It is a game right? Were I you I’d get the wheels and see how they hold up. Unless they've been abused already I doubt you’ll have issues as a rec rider. Diving into a corner at criterium speeds is probably not a good idea.

[pbarry]

Get the wheels and learn how to bunny hop, if you don't already. :beer:

[Joel]

145# and those would worry me... Better to be safe for a few grams...

[pavel]

i'm 135 and i would absolutely destroy a box section 20/24 faster than you can say "how much to true this wheel"

[pbarry]

i'm 135 and i would absolutely destroy a box section 20/24 faster than you can say "how much to true this wheel"

Lightweight, you need to learn how to bunny hop and get your weight off the saddle.

[pavel]

bunny hopping is a great joy to me and i am pretty well balanced on the bike - but i ride a lot and bay area roads are straight up garbage. 28/28 is the lowest aluminum rim/spoke count that i can ride sustainably on these roads.

[bicycletricycle]

i rode a 18 hole deep v front wheel for a long time with no problems at the same weight. deep v's r deeper so its not exactly the same.

i would say 28/24 with that rim profile.

i have been riding around on some 28 hole cxp23 wheels for a bit with no problems and i am over 200 these days.

cxp is a shallow arrow rim similar to those h plus sons

[pdmtong]

Disclaimer - I'm not a pro or semi pro wheel builder or a racer, just a 60 y/o end user.

I’m 190-200 lbs most years, maybe 18 mph average for 1,500-2,000 miles a year on mostly smooth roads and paved trails, though seasonal chip and seal does occur. In other words I’m pretty easy on wheels. I rode used Mavic Kysrium Elites (18/24) for three years and used Campagnolo Neutrons (22/26?) for the last year. No issues with either. The Neutrons are on one bike and the Mavics are on the garage wall if ever needed. The wheels before that were 3X 32/32 OP on shimano 105 hubs, those are on my steel bike. The Neutrons look so much faster at a stop sign, spin up quicker at any speed, and make me feel like I’m still in the game. It is a game right? Were I you I’d get the wheels and see how they hold up. Unless they've been abused already I doubt you’ll have issues as a rec rider. Diving into a corner at criterium speeds is probably not a good idea.

at 170 I have pounded kysrium elites racing CX the past 4 years. for some reason, that's a stronger wheel than what the OP is proposing

[endosch2]

175 to 180, have been riding ksyrium elites and sls over the past 7years, have not trued or done anything to them. At least 2k per year on the sls.

[beeatnik]

i'm 135 and i would absolutely destroy a box section 20/24 faster than you can say "how much to true this wheel"


Hahahahhaha.

20/24 be nice.

Shoe, trust the builder.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/10836387555_898be1ed14_o.jpg

[spacemen3]

I would try them. I remember heavy guys riding Campy Shamals that were 12- spoke. Rode about as comfortably as straddling an I-beam, but they held up. Just take care not to target potholes of any sort. :)

[Ken Robb]

fat[/b] for these wheels?????????


yes!!!!!!!!! :)

[umami]

I think riding style matters as much as body weight. If you're light on a bike, nimble, able to hop/dodge obstacles, you have a better chance at not ruining these wheels. If you ride like you're stuck to the ground, buy them, then offer them up for trade here. :cool:

[soulspinner]

Hahahahhaha.

20/24 be nice.

Shoe, trust the builder.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/10836387555_898be1ed14_o.jpg

That thing is yummy............

[benb]

I rode a 30mm rim with 18/20 spokes for ~8 years before the rear rim gave up the ghost (nipples pulling through, cracking the rim in multiple places). I was 170-185 most of that period and I did not baby those wheels at all.

Probably all depends on how well they are built.

[Gummee]

Basic rule of thumb: if you have to ask if you're too fat for a certain pair of wheels, the answer's probably yes.

I have several pairs of low spoke-count wheels. Ride em when I want to go fast.* Normally, however, I'm on 32/32 Open Pro-style wheels. Oldest pair I have was built in the early 90s. Still going strong. Try THAT with the low spoke-count stuff!

M

* or in the case of the Oval 524s I'm fixin to put on to go riding, got for free so I don't mind trashing em on gravel roads.

[Ti Designs]

yes!!!!!!!!! :)

A man who knows that the shortest distance between two points is a straight answer.

A large percentage of our country is obese, yet somehow it's wrong to tell someone they're fat. Step away from the Twinkies!!!

Now had you asked "do these wheels make me look fat?"...

[beeatnik]

As for a straight answer, remember that comment about limited info:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showpost.php?p=1503496&postcount=12

I believe the OP may have been facetious in calling himself fat. Who knows, the guy could be 6'4" and 190.

BMI, body fat percentage appropriate for age...etc, etc, etc...not enough info to suggest a water bottle that would match his wheelz.

But you're right, fat makes people fat.

[Ti Designs]

BMI, body fat percentage appropriate for age...etc, etc, etc...not enough info to suggest a water bottle that would match his wheelz.

Where's that picture of the drilled out water bottle when I need it???

[Gummee]

Those 524s I tossed on to go riding? Spoke broke in the rear wheel.

Not unexpected, 'cause that's how I got em for free in the first place.

M