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potatochip
02-27-2014, 03:42 PM
Has anybody tried the new ec90 aero 55s? Just released in 2014. Seem to check all the boxes according to Easton's marketing materials. Trying to decide between these and a set of enves.


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oldpotatoe
02-27-2014, 04:52 PM
Has anybody tried the new ec90 aero 55s? Just released in 2014. Seem to check all the boxes according to Easton's marketing materials. Trying to decide between these and a set of enves.


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Get the ENVE with DT hubs.

potatochip
02-27-2014, 05:43 PM
Why do you like the enve wheels better?


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azrider
02-27-2014, 07:20 PM
Get the Reynolds 58 aero.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/reynolds-58-aero

Uncle Jam's Army
02-27-2014, 08:10 PM
Get the Reynolds 58 aero.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/reynolds-58-aero

+1. Or better yet, the 72 aero/58 aero staggered set.

aaronf
02-27-2014, 08:27 PM
Just glued a set of these for a client. Seemed very nice quality-wise, a definite step up from previous years' offerings. Nice brake tracks. Big wide rim, mates well to the 24mm Vittoria tires. And about, if not the lightest out there in that depth.
Not sure how the low spoke count will play out for heavier and/or high wattage folks though.

cfox
02-27-2014, 08:28 PM
Enve Smarts.

-proven, been around a couple of years (pretty much the gold standard) vs Easton's new design
-choose your own wheelbuilder
-choose your brand of hubs
-choose (better yet, your wheelbuilder) your own spokes
-lifetime crash replacement; taco your wheel, get a new rim for $400

I think the new Eastons are about $2,400, Enve with DT 240s will run you about $2,600. Kind of a no-brainer for $200 extra, imo.

potatochip
02-27-2014, 08:34 PM
The reynolds look interesting, but I get a deal on easton / enve. No such luck with the reynolds.
The easton tubulars end up being about $400 less than the enve's for me, easton clinchers about $100 less.

oldpotatoe
02-28-2014, 07:15 AM
Enve Smarts.

-proven, been around a couple of years (pretty much the gold standard) vs Easton's new design
-choose your own wheelbuilder
-choose your brand of hubs
-choose (better yet, your wheelbuilder) your own spokes
-lifetime crash replacement; taco your wheel, get a new rim for $400

I think the new Eastons are about $2,400, Enve with DT 240s will run you about $2,600. Kind of a no-brainer for $200 extra, imo.

My HO also..far better hubs(DT)..more carbon rim experience..

thegunner
02-28-2014, 08:23 AM
My HO also..far better hubs(DT)..more carbon rim experience..

Can't help but play devils advocate here and point out eastob probably has more composites experience in general :) both will be nice wheels, but I think I'd rather have enves.

oldpotatoe
02-28-2014, 08:25 AM
Can't help but play devils advocate here and point out eastob probably has more composites experience in general :) both will be nice wheels, but I think I'd rather have enves.

Easton does have a lot of design, so hits, some misses but I think their manufacturing 'philosophy', puts the ball(wheel) firmly in Enve's court.

WickedWheels
02-28-2014, 09:11 AM
Another vote for Enve.

One of the things I like about them, aside from what's been mentioned, is that they don't "reinvent the wheel". They manufacture carbon, not hubs, so they use some of the best in the industry for those instead. I can't help feeling that companies that make a "wheel system" will often focus on the wrong part of the system and get it wrong.

Zipp, for example, spends a lot of energy on designing and redesigning hubs, but would ultimately have a better wheel if they just used a DT system. If that energy was used on looking at the spoke/nipple interface or bearing durability I wouldn't have so many customers with busted nipples, worn out bearings or lose hubs.

I haven't seen any issues with the most recent Easton, but I've seen enough problems that could've been avoided if they were manufacturing rims instead of building "wheel systems". Plus, I feel like their business model is set up to hurt small bike shops and promote mail order and chain stores. I believe in voting with my dollar and wouldn't give Easton/Bell Sports a penny.

WickedWheels
02-28-2014, 09:12 AM
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bobswire
02-28-2014, 09:30 AM
Has anybody tried the new ec90 aero 55s? Just released in 2014. Seem to check all the boxes according to Easton's marketing materials. Trying to decide between these and a set of enves.


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For what they are selling the older EC90 for why spend more ? http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_541509_-1___204607

thegunner
02-28-2014, 09:31 AM
For what they are selling the older EC90 for why spend more ? http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_541509_-1___204607

because the profile is different now?

bobswire
02-28-2014, 10:07 AM
because the profile is different now?

Will that deter you breaking the hour record or hurt Wall Streets 4th quarter estimate for Easton ?

thegunner
02-28-2014, 10:09 AM
Will that deter you breaking the hour record or hurt Wall Streets 4th quarter estimate for Easton ?

by that logic, we should all be riding 36 spoke wheels :)

firerescuefin
02-28-2014, 10:10 AM
Will that deter you breaking the hour record or hurt Wall Streets 4th quarter estimate for Easton ?

Not sure, but it makes a real and very noticeable difference when riding in a crosswind.

cfox
02-28-2014, 11:10 AM
Not sure, but it makes a real and very noticeable difference when riding in a crosswind.

this. new rim shapes are massively easier/safer to ride in crosswinds. My old enve 65's were downright scary when the winds picked up.

EDS
02-28-2014, 12:08 PM
by that logic, we should all be riding 36 spoke wheels :)

Well played.

Joachim
02-28-2014, 12:41 PM
For what they are selling the older EC90 for why spend more ? http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_541509_-1___204607

Pretty much a completely redesigned wheel for 2014.

bobswire
02-28-2014, 12:47 PM
by that logic, we should all be riding 36 spoke wheels :)

I still do but I can only speak for myself and I stand by my statement the Wall Street drives the market.