Cool high flange track hubs

[thenewguy11]

I'm looking at building up a track wheel set and wanted to see if anyone had thoughts on a cool set of hubs. I'm leaning towards Phil Wood high flange hubs with the windows slots but am open to other ideas. Couple caveats - need to have a 28h option and come in silver.

[choke]

If money is no object.....http://www.curtisodom.com/products/hubs

[Peter B]

Both White Industries and Paul make nice high flange polished track hubs right here locally. The Whites use proprietary splined cogs and the Paul has different chainline measurements than Phil. Hard to go wrong with any of those three.

[19wisconsin64]

you may be able to get a set of vintage dura ace or vintage campagnolo high flange hubs. usually these are about 120 mm wide, and after a little polishing will make for a great fixed wheelset. the newer hubs are a little better (better bearings and water sealing), and the ones that use the hex wrench to install the bolts are very easy to put on and off.

i've seen some fellow forum members selling some amazing wheelsets at great prices with the hubs mentioned on this thread too. good luck with your build!

[cachagua]

Suntour Superbe Pro? Those show up on eBay now and then. Not very exotic (although there's a certain caché with a manufacturer who's no longer in business, of course) but cool hollow axles. And 28 holes.

[Marburg]

I've been digging the look of the Victoire Cycles hubs

http://www.victoire-cycles.com/images/galleries/Supersprint-front/Supersprint-rear-18.jpg

Also available in threaded cog, apparently.

[velotrack]

Don't forget DA 7600 which are loose bearing classics. The pauls are good choices, as are the Phils.

Also can't go wrong with the all city new sheriffs at a lower pricepoint. :banana:

[Gummee]

You want cool? Go with the Campag sheriff stars or nuthin

...unless you want low spoke count, then look for some Superbe Pro. My last pair of those was 24/24 built into some Zipp 440 rims. That was back when 440s were new.

My next pair of training track wheels is going to be D/A low-flange with Campag Crono rims. I'm just missing the rear to make the set. (and a frame/etc AND a track close enough to train on!)

M

[evo111@comcast.net]

I have no experience with Royce Hubs from the UK

http://www.royceuk.co.uk/Royce-Uk.html

But a few threads across the hall spoke highly of them.

[ultraman6970]

The curtis odom ones are cool saw them in a vintage bike show last summer.

The other guy that can do what ever you want is maciev from "Mack" hubs in eastern europe, he is even making road hubs now. I got a set made maybe 8 years ago, solid hubs and easily serviceable. He can do pretty much any color and any pattern you want, he has low and high flanges too.

[FlashUNC]

I have no experience with Royce Hubs from the UK

http://www.royceuk.co.uk/Royce-Uk.html

But a few threads across the hall spoke highly of them.

If they're good enough for Boardman, they're good enough for us mere mortals.

+1 for Royce.

[Scooper]

Curtis Odom's hubs are incredibly beautiful to my eye. If he had them in 90mm front/110mm rear OLD versions, I'd have bought them for my 1940 Paramount.

Track hubs in the most classic of styling. High flanges with beautiful and decorative patterns. All aluminum hub body, optional solid stainless steel axles and lock nuts, with custom track nuts. Standard spoke drillings 28, 32, 36, custom order 24, 40. The stainless steel model has a polished stainless steel center body to replicate the finest classic look.



http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/k4drd/Bicycles/1938%20eBay%20Paramount/CurtisOdomHubs.jpg

[cnighbor1]

try njs-export.com
go to parts selection see hubs and wheels
avoid c record hubs tend to break near holes
maxi car another option vintage

[bikinchris]

You want cool? Go with the Campag sheriff stars or nuthin

...unless you want low spoke count, then look for some Superbe Pro. My last pair of those was 24/24 built into some Zipp 440 rims. That was back when 440s were new.

My next pair of training track wheels is going to be D/A low-flange with Campag Crono rims. I'm just missing the rear to make the set. (and a frame/etc AND a track close enough to train on!)

M

+1 for sheriff star Record hubs. Use every other hole if you want low count spokes. But since you are likely going to use them for something other than time trials, they would be not only the smoothest hubs, but the best looking.

[AngryScientist]

i just bought a wheelset on the forum with these suzue pro-max hubs. i own campy hubs and i own dura ace, chris king, etc. these are the smoothest rolling hubs i own. period. love them.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1050/5112254256_05562342b6.jpg

[Gummee]

i just bought a wheelset on the forum with these suzue pro-max hubs. i own campy hubs and i own dura ace, chris king, etc. these are the smoothest rolling hubs i own. period. love them.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1050/5112254256_05562342b6.jpg

Having owned those, D/A, and Superbe, I'll say the Superbes are best
M

[11.4]

Suzue went out of business so their hubs basically skyrocketed just like Dura Ace did when theirs went out of production for a while, or when C-record high flange track hubs started to become scarce (because so many of them broke). There are both a sealed-bearing and a loose-bearing version -- the sealed-bearing one is a cheapie for fixie riders. There's also a carbon fiber version -- black alloy flanges with a black carbon fiber tube connecting them. Overall, though, while they were available they never had quite the reputation of Dura Ace or Suntour Superbe Pro.

For riding performance and durability any of Suzue loose-bearing, Dura Ace 7600 or Suntour Superbe Pro (if you can find them) will do well for you. However, I'd recommend the Phil Wood SLR's (with the slotted cutouts in the flanges), and get them with an anodized color, then get them upgraded with the chrome-dome track nuts and the matching axle caps. Pretty cool and puh-lenty expensive with the extra options. And durable.

You could check the old Zipp track hubs, which came in 28 holes and were crazy expensive for what they were.

Also Chub hubs, for an odd look but very hip.

Royce are nice but mostly just machining -- they look a little different but aren't necessarily any better.

Tune made a few track hubs if you want ultralight.

Frankly, for retro, the coolest hubs for what you're doing are an old NOS pair of Campy Record track hubs. The alloy was fairly soft so they marked up easily but they practically never broke and had a really fine classic look.

Spend money and buy a NOS pair of Campy Record high-low road hubs? You'll have to hunt for 28-hole but they are out there. Replace the axles with track axles and just use your track cog on the freewheel thread -- real trackies don't use lock rings anyway. Those hubs will cost you $450-750 in NOS.

To be honest, traditional track equipment was pretty conservative. If you want bling hubs get bling wheels and set up with five-spoke Mavic Io's front and rear. None of this stupid Aerospoke stuff. Or find some Xentis or other monocoque spoked track wheels. There's lots of that kind of things available.

[ultraman6970]

Their web site is still there just in case.

Did not know they had road hubs aswell, sad they never made a campy one.

[ewwhite]

To be honest, traditional track equipment was pretty conservative. If you want bling hubs get bling wheels and set up with five-spoke Mavic Io's front and rear. None of this stupid Aerospoke stuff. Or find some Xentis or other monocoque spoked track wheels. There's lots of that kind of things available.

Can you find me the elusive *rear* Mavic iO? :)

[David Kirk]

Suntour Superbe Pro we're always the smoothest and prettiest one could buy- just my opinion.

Dave

[Joel]

Another vote for Suntour Superbe Pro.

Mine are laced to Campy Omega Rims with Hoshi flat bladed spokes.

Bomb proof and pretty wheels that make me smile every time I ride them. Which is just about every day!

It's worth the trouble to find a pair.

[TRACK]

Dura ace, paul, phil wood, Chub hub, suzue, campy, american classic, suntour

[bicycletricycle]

+1

if money is no object.....http://www.curtisodom.com/products/hubs

[kidbill]

Don't forget DA 7600 which are loose bearing classics. The pauls are good choices, as are the Phils.

Also can't go wrong with the all city new sheriffs at a lower pricepoint. :banana:

+1 on the DA 7600 high flange. I recently serviced mine, and they're butter.

[thenewguy11]

Thanks for all the replies. I think I'm going to go with the Curtis Odom holey hubs. They look pretty unique.

[Scooper]

Thanks for all the replies. I think I'm going to go with the Curtis Odom holey hubs. They look pretty unique.

Great choice. :beer:

[bironi]

i just bought a wheelset on the forum with these suzue pro-max hubs. i own campy hubs and i own dura ace, chris king, etc. these are the smoothest rolling hubs i own. period. love them.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1050/5112254256_05562342b6.jpg

Perty too.

[11.4]

Perty too.

Looks like the front is a loose-bearing NJS hub and the rear is the lower-quality sealed bearing one? Can't tell from the angle but it looks that way.

Suzue's feel really smooth out of the box but I do think that Suntours last the best and keep getting better for years, while Dura Ace 7600 are almost indistinguishable from Suntours and much easier to get parts for. They're all good hubs and when one is riding, one won't be able to tell a difference between them.

[EricEstlund]

The Odom hubs are sweet- you'll dig em.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8614823245_c0110999de_z.jpg

[ColonelJLloyd]

Looks like the front is a loose-bearing NJS hub and the rear is the lower-quality sealed bearing one? Can't tell from the angle but it looks that way.

Looks like a normal dust cap to me.

[benitosan1972]

Dura ace, paul, phil wood, Chub hub, suzue, campy, american classic, suntour

Chubs are terrible, I own two sets.

Phil, Paul, American Classic, Mavic... anything sealed bearing is so-so, but great for durability and no-maintenance, all-weather riding.

Loose-ball bearing is where it's at... DA, SSP, older Suzue Promax Disco, and Campy, Campy is the winner for smoothness, with SSP coming in 2nd, DA in 3rd, etc.

Suzue made cool-looking Promax CF hubs with black high flanges, carbon shell, and sealed bearings, I have two sets of those too.
http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/thub-promaxcf2.jpg

Zipp made really cool track hubs a while back, same bearings as their venerable carbon road wheels, those were oh so smoothe too.
http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/thub-zipp2.jpg

[witcombusa]

Suntour Superbe Pro? Those show up on eBay now and then. Not very exotic (although there's a certain caché with a manufacturer who's no longer in business, of course) but cool hollow axles. And 28 holes.

Lov'um

[guyintense]

Here's a set of Curtis Odom hubs on a wheel set I built for a friend. High quality hubs and Curtis was a pleasure to deal with.

[kidbill]

Here is my Dura Ace 7600 front hub.