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alessandro
11-03-2013, 12:09 AM
Today a friend and I were headed out for a ride, bikes on top of the car. He backed out of his driveway, where the seat of my Cervelo Prodigy snagged on a rope that he'd strung across the driveway to hang some Halloween decorations. The rope held. My bike was not so lucky, and got yanked out of the rack, bending the left dropout. I got the frame here on the forum this spring, cobbled together the parts mostly from the forum, and had it built up this summer. It's my first serious bike. Pictures below.

We went directly to the LBS--the Old Spokes Home. I have to say that it was lucky for me that today was a cloudy Saturday in November and not a sunny day in May, when the LBS would be slammed, because as soon as we drove up I had the owner and two of his mechanics looking at my fork. The owner shook his head and said we could try maybe bending it back with a bench vise or pliers or something, but he wouldn't recommend it. Then he put the question to his main wrench, who has a beard like Mike Napoli's, only longer. "I'll bend steel all day," he said. "But aluminum bonded to carbon? Not so much."

Another wrench went in back to rummage around for 1" threadless forks. No luck. But then he offered a spare he had at home, from a Surly Steamroller, like this one:
http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=215786

He lives just down the street, and offered to fetch it. Slow days in November have their benefits. My apologetic friend and I repaired to a bakery, where he bought me lunch, and then went back to the LBS with some coffee for the shop guys. After a bit the owner offered us a test ride on fatbikes--they have more than a dozen on the floor now, in preparation for winter, more than I've seen at this shop before. Maybe it was to hook us in on riding those plush 4" tires, maybe it was to get us out of the workroom, but that was a fun 15 minutes while we rode them around the graveyard: A Ti Salsa Mukluk with studded tires and a Surly Pugsley. When we got back to the shop, my bike was ready. The fork steerer had been cut a bit short for me, so they put an extender/adapter on it--not perfect, but it works. Total time: Less than an hour.

I know from the forum that there are great shops out there, but there aren't many. Some of it had to do with the time of year, but I'm still amazed that I could show up with a bent part and a tale of woe, have my bike equipped with a replacement from the guy's personal stash, and get it swapped out and rolling in that short period. If you're ever in Burlington, go check out the Old Spokes Home.

By the time we finally got out for a ride, it was raining. My buddy forgot his shoe covers, and his feet got wet and cold, so we had to cut it short, but I got to test the replacement fork going downhill at 40, where it was straight and steady.

Below are 1) a picture of my bike in the setting sun with the original fork, back when the bar tape was still white; 2) the bent dropout; 3) the cracked paint showing where the dropout was bonded to the fork. That line shouldn't be visible; the other fork leg is smooth.

So now I need a replacement fork. Anybody? The Steamroller fork is even black like the original, is steel, has a flat crown, and has a nice curve to it. But it's too short.

Louis
11-03-2013, 12:25 AM
Great service, but too bad you had to get it the hard way. :(

Dale Alan
11-03-2013, 12:32 AM
What a bummer,sorry to hear of your misfortune. Pretty cool of the fine folks at Old Spokes fixed you up like that . Burlington is filled with cool people,love that town.

Peter P.
11-03-2013, 06:47 AM
Great story under unfortunate circumstances.

I recommend eBay for your new fork. 1" threadless forks are less popular now so people tend to unload them cheap.

oldpotatoe
11-03-2013, 06:50 AM
Still makes an alloy steerer, 1 inch carbon fork..

I wouldn't buy any carbon fork unless it was new...IMHO.

alessandro
11-03-2013, 10:55 PM
Thanks for the responses. Old Potatoe, why not a second-hand carbon fork? How is it different than a used fork sold with a frame or complete bike here or on eBay? Maybe your point is that the sale of a fork by itself brings into question why it's being sold--because, as momma used to say, you never know where it's been.

thirdgenbird
11-04-2013, 07:08 AM
I would go wound up without thinking twice.

Soma might be an option if you want to spend less.

oldpotatoe
11-04-2013, 07:21 AM
Thanks for the responses. Old Potatoe, why not a second-hand carbon fork? How is it different than a used fork sold with a frame or complete bike here or on eBay? Maybe your point is that the sale of a fork by itself brings into question why it's being sold--because, as momma used to say, you never know where it's been.

Because you don't know the history of the used carbon....anything. No way to see any damage and that unseen damage may just lead to a catastrophic failure.

A frame failing, unless the headtube comes off, seen that....really won't cause the rider major damage...breaking a fork or a handlebar or a stem or even a seatpost..well it will...

RedRider
11-04-2013, 07:23 AM
Good to hear about the great service and advice Old Spokes Home gave you. I also agree that you should only buy new carbon forks...you don't know where they've been.

keevon
11-04-2013, 08:16 AM
This would look pretty great (assuming the white matches):

http://www.somafab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/soma_fork_smoothie_lug_white-370x300.jpg

http://store.somafab.com/so1crlufo43.html

That Prodigy is calling out for a steel fork. The bladed carbon doesn't do it for me. But if you must have carbon, I'd suggest something like the Columbus Minimal: http://www.wiggle.com/columbus-minimal-road-forks/

moose8
11-04-2013, 08:23 AM
I visited that shop for the first time a few months ago and thought their upstairs bike museum was really cool. They were very nice too.

bobswire
11-04-2013, 08:59 AM
I exchanged an older Time fork that was on a Prodigy I purchased for a Ritchey,to say it was an upgrade in both looks and performance would be an understatement.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ritchey-Carbon-Comp-1-Steerer-Road-Fork-700c-43mm-New-/220839402009?pt=US_Forks&hash=item336b0dda19
http://i43.tinypic.com/2q87k84.jpg

alessandro
11-05-2013, 10:29 AM
Work has been crazy lately, so little time to post.

Keevon, I agree with you about steel, but I'm on the fence. I did not like the look of the original bladed carbon fork, but I liked the way it rode.

Bobswire, that photo is beautiful, and thanks for the link.

I should just rename this the 1" threadless fork thread. Also, I've never been a gram-counting weight weenie before, but there it is.

Steel

Soma Tange Infinity CrMo: $140, no weight given. http://store.somafab.com/so1crlufo43.html
Nice-looking fork at a good price. Also available from Soma: The Classic Curve road fork for $160, and the Straight Blade Track/Road fork for $150, both chrome-plated. Then there's the Tange Prestige road fork, which Soma's web store says is lighter than Infinity (is this possible?;)), $180: http://store.somafab.com/tange-prestige-road-fork.html

Surly Steamroller: $90 and 900 grams. http://surlybikes.com/parts/forks/steamroller_fork. Nice flat crown.

Custom: I suppose I could commission one from any number of builders, like Winter Bicycles, starting at $400. Who was the forum member who had Marinoni build him a steel fork for his Cervelo Prodigy?

Carbon

Wound Up: $325 and 613 grams. http://www.woundupcomposites.com/specs.html
By all accounts a great fork, but not to my taste, and too expensive, considering that it's about 75% of what I paid for the F/F/HS.

IRD seems to make a 1" carbon fork, about $210: http://www.interlocracing.com/forks.html

Columbus Minimal: $230; still available? http://www.wiggle.com/columbus-minimal-road-forks/

Ritchey Comp carbon road: $200-$250, 540 grams: ritcheylogic.com/road/forks/comp-carbon-road-fork.html. I'm leaning this way. Also, the frame has Ritchey dropouts.

Did I miss anything?

cheshirecycle
11-05-2013, 12:16 PM
about $110 carbon legs chromoly steerer. not to light...

BumbleBeeDave
11-05-2013, 12:31 PM
I visited that shop for the first time a few months ago and thought their upstairs bike museum was really cool. They were very nice too.

. . . when I headed up to Burlington for a day trip with my daughter in 2009. They said you had to ask to go upstairs, so I figured it was some little storage room with a few old bikes. I asked, and the guy helping us ushered me through the service area, pointed up the rickety stairs and said "Up there." So I went "up there."

Holy. Crap.

Amazing!

A real honest-to-god museum of some really, REALLY old and historic bikes. Here's a blog that has lots of great photos.

http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/10/magic-in-vermont-old-spokes-home.html

BBD