LeMond buys Time USA.

[sales guy]

http://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2013/09/17/lemond-buys-time-usa-taking-over-disribution#.UjmCdMu9KSM


Interesting.

[bostondrunk]

OK, I'm a huge LeMond fan (and, yes, a huge Armstrong fan as well. I'm a fan of the racing, not politics.).
I always liked LeMond's bikes, especially the carbon/ti Tete.
I'm looking forward to seeing the Time/LeMond bikes they are supposed to unveil today. Unfortunately, they will probably be grossly expensive. :(

[MattTuck]

Damn. I was secretly hoping he was going to the next UCI president. I guess this puts the nail in that coffin. Hard to run the UCI if you own a bike company.

[William]

Good for the Man!!:banana:

I hope that he's highly successful in this endeavor.






William

[R2D2]

OK, I'm a huge LeMond fan (and, yes, a huge Armstrong fan as well. I'm a fan of the racing, not politics.).
I always liked LeMond's bikes, especially the carbon/ti Tete.
I'm looking forward to seeing the Time/LeMond bikes they are supposed to unveil today. Unfortunately, they will probably be grossly expensive. :(

I think they are expensive. Aren't they commemorating his tour wins? So will be in the trophy category.

[texbike]

Cool. Good for him! I hope that it works out and that he's very successful with it.

Texbike

[MattTuck]

I think they are expensive. Aren't they commemorating his tour wins? So will be in the trophy category.

All his bikes commemorated his wins, other people's wins. Not sure if these are one off specially painted versions of the bikes that will eventually be sold to the public, or if these are the actual bikes that will be sold.

I'm not sure if the production bikes will fall in the trophy category.

[R2D2]

All his bikes commemorated his wins, other people's wins. Not sure if these are one off specially painted versions of the bikes that will eventually be sold to the public, or if these are the actual bikes that will be sold.

I'm not sure if the production bikes will fall in the trophy category.

Understood. I just recall reading the first group were pretty darn pricey with Campagnolo Anniversary Groupos.

Hopefully there will be a production run.

[Walter]

All his bikes commemorated his wins, other people's wins. Not sure if these are one off specially painted versions of the bikes that will eventually be sold to the public, or if these are the actual bikes that will be sold.

I'm not sure if the production bikes will fall in the trophy category.

They are replica bikes that I gather will be limited production and probably very pricey. The production and lower priced bikes are said to be coming in 2014.

[wildboar]

Just from the teaser pic...

Campy 80th group $3700
Bora 35 wheels $4000
Time ZXRS frame $6000 (whatever frame he uses compared to their existing top of the line)

[avalonracing]

Damn. I was secretly hoping he was going to the next UCI president. I guess this puts the nail in that coffin. Hard to run the UCI if you own a bike company.

That would have been cool!

[Fixed]

OK, I'm a huge LeMond fan (and, yes, a huge Armstrong fan as well. I'm a fan of the racing, not politics.).
I always liked LeMond's bikes, especially the carbon/ti Tete.
I'm looking forward to seeing the Time/LeMond bikes they are supposed to unveil today. Unfortunately, they will probably be grossly expensive. :(

+1
Cheers :)

[rustylion]

He is still very much in the cycling game! Good for him!! I look forward to seeing what he does with Time in the USA market. Should be interesting to observe.

[#campyuserftw]

Now he's a business, man. Meaning, will this remove his tongue? Will his wallet sterilize his outspoken stances on PEDS, UCI and such? Will he still hang with Betsy Andreu and do speaking tours?

Big fan of his, rode his bikes in the 90's, until LeMond went carbon, and wish him nothing but success. I say "success", but what does he need after two World Championships, three Tours de France, and he's already a one-percenter; I don't see this for him as a venture which requires "success" so much as it is putting his last name back into the world of cycling, where it belongs, and that is success unto itself. "LeMond" bikes isn't about revenge, it's a reckoning.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GREE8GdRrc

:cool:

[FlashUNC]

Just from the teaser pic...

Campy 80th group $3700
Bora 35 wheels $4000
Time ZXRS frame $6000 (whatever frame he uses compared to their existing top of the line)

They'll be using the NXS frame for the first run of limited edition bikes.

Full line will be a LeMond/Time design it seems.

[Lovetoclimb]

Getting more bikes with heritage and not made in China or Taiwain is terrific news to me. (as I get on my Surly Cross-Check to commute to work :butt:)

[fiamme red]

I wonder how a LeMond will be different from a Time other than the name on the downtube.

[William]

"LeMond" bikes isn't about revenge, it's a reckoning.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GREE8GdRrc

:cool:

They called down the thunder....You tell them LeMond is comin'!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8jZ4JMbqU





William

[FlashUNC]

I wonder how a LeMond will be different from a Time other than the name on the downtube.

One story I read said the rear triangle geometry on the initial LeMond frames will be a bit different, with more radical changes coming in the LeMond line next year.

[Steve in SLO]

I wonder how a LeMond will be different from a Time other than the name on the downtube.

I'm betting on a longer top tube.

[Lionel]

and longer chain stays

[fiamme red]

and longer chain staysThat makes sense. Time bikes seem to have very short chain stays, even the NXS, their "Gran Fondo" model:

http://www.time-sport.com/velos-montes/velos-montes.aspx

I don't see Time currently offering a cyclocross model. Maybe LeMond will add that.

[enr1co]

Hope they go back to a similar logo as the original Lemond bikes versus the the Trek Lemond bikes
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/images09/cc652-4BFront%20Triangle.jpg

[AngryScientist]

i thought you couldnt buy time :banana:

[echelon_john]

In related news, Time apparently IS money...$10K+!

i thought you couldnt buy time :banana:

[Keith A]

It is interesting that for such a big deal, there is nothing on any site related to Greg Lemond about this deal. You would think that in today's information world that you would want that out there for everyone to see. But I checked his website (http://greglemond.com/), Twitter and Facebook and not one word :confused:

His website is pretty stale, with nothing new in a while. The link to his bikes asks the question if they should rebuild Lemond line of bikes (http://greglemond.com/lemond-cycle/).

[jpw]

so he's bought the rights to the brand 'time' for bicycles and related products in the US market?

[wildboar]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/856536_682596625086708_516456539_o.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUdqDLYCMAAQTcf.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUeHLuKCcAAZ5iV.jpg

[FlashUNC]

http://taliandroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/shut-up-and-take-my-money-google.jpg

[slidey]

Does this mean that LeMond himself will have an input in the design process of the bike?


Full line will be a LeMond/Time design it seems.

[FlashUNC]

Does this mean that LeMond himself will have an input in the design process of the bike?

Details I read were a little fuzzy (I think it might have been the BRAIN articles that are making the rounds) but I would assume it's going to incorporate some of his ideas about geometry and what works for a bike. Since Time controls the entire manufacturing process, I don't see why that wouldn't be feasible.

This is also an interesting business direction for Time. They've licensed their pedals to Mavic to sell, and now they're ostensibly going to try for a bigger imprint in the North American market with the LeMond name carrying some of that water.

I hope it works for them, I love their stuff.

[thirdgenbird]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/856536_682596625086708_516456539_o.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUdqDLYCMAAQTcf.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUeHLuKCcAAZ5iV.jpg

I like what I see.

[cmg]

i'm liking it..... logo looks cool.

[pdmtong]

+1

[Mark McM]

Details I read were a little fuzzy (I think it might have been the BRAIN articles that are making the rounds) but I would assume it's going to incorporate some of his ideas about geometry and what works for a bike. Since Time controls the entire manufacturing process, I don't see why that wouldn't be feasible.

Well, it didn't work that way when Trek produced Lemond bikes. The Lemond OCLV carbon frames came from the same molds, and had the same geometries, as the Trek models. Instead, they uses a little sleight of hand to make it look they were different on paper. Lemond frames were supposed to have longer top tubes, so they "achieved" this by measuring the frames differently. The Trek frames were sized by measuring the seat tubes from center to top, whereas the Lemond frames were sized by measuring the seat tubes from center to center. For example, a 54cm Trek might have a 54cm top tube, whereas a 54cm Lemond might have a 56cm top tube - but in reality, the 54cm Lemond used the same frame as a 56cm Trek.

Given the costs of tooling and molds for carbon frames, I wouldn't be surprised if the Time/Lemonds didn't do something similar.

[sales guy]

Seriously? Those are the graphics? Ugh. Wish they would be more like the older ones.

[jeffreng58]

Sweet. Lets see what kind of unconventional frames Lemond can come up with.:hello:

[enr1co]

I like what I see.

Thanks for posting the interbike pics!

If they solicited booth design input from me, would have suggested they use this classic Greg pic :)
http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/riders/pics/lemond_g15.jpg

An another "ugh" for the squiggly headtube logo and cursive downtube logo.

[thirdgenbird]

They were not my pics, I just quoted them.

I like the branding.

[Steve in SLO]

Like the logo and really like that bike hanging up behind him: The Lemond script looks nicely understated, while the yellow and chartreuse are great nods to the yellow jersey and his '89 Worlds bike.
Classic yet thoroughly modern.
Also, it's rockin' mech Campy.

[Walter]

One story I read said the rear triangle geometry on the initial LeMond frames will be a bit different, with more radical changes coming in the LeMond line next year.

I spoke with one of the Time folks from France today at Interbike and asked about the tt length. He said the front triangle is stock Time geometry (no longer tt) and the rear end is done differently for the ride characteristics GL wanted.

[#campyuserftw]

Mr. LeMond,

Please join Twitter. Announce group rides. We'll all show up and ride with you. It would be an honor. Ride your bike, and be Greg LeMond.

Thanks,
#campyuserftw

PS: Please fix the debacle known as the USA Pro Challenge, find a way to add more spice to the Tour of California, or start your own pro race. Don't ever close your queue, and illegitimi non carborundum.

PPS: I dunno if Santa can get a 56.5 cm-square LeMond bike (with Campy gruppo and wheels) down the chimney, but if he could leave it anywhere on my property this Christmas, please tell him I've been a good boy.

[Keith A]

Well, it didn't work that way when Trek produced Lemond bikes. The Lemond OCLV carbon frames came from the same molds, and had the same geometries, as the Trek models. Instead, they uses a little sleight of hand to make it look they were different on paper. Lemond frames were supposed to have longer top tubes, so they "achieved" this by measuring the frames differently. The Trek frames were sized by measuring the seat tubes from center to top, whereas the Lemond frames were sized by measuring the seat tubes from center to center. For example, a 54cm Trek might have a 54cm top tube, whereas a 54cm Lemond might have a 56cm top tube - but in reality, the 54cm Lemond used the same frame as a 56cm Trek.

Given the costs of tooling and molds for carbon frames, I wouldn't be surprised if the Time/Lemonds didn't do something similar.That was true of the Lemond OCLV carbon bikes, but then they went on to produce steel, Ti, mixes of steel/Ti and carbon and then all carbon again that did have different geometry than the Treks.

[don compton]

Thanks for posting the interbike pics!

If they solicited booth design input from me, would have suggested they use this classic Greg pic :)
http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/riders/pics/lemond_g15.jpg

An another "ugh" for the squiggly headtube logo and cursive downtube logo.
I wonder if "Bicycle Tricycle" noticed Greg's Simplex Retrofriction shifters? Even with that primitive tech, Lemond was still fast.:hello:

[Mike V]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/19/zagene9y.jpg

[Mike V]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/19/gu3e8ygy.jpg


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[Mike V]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/19/azyvy4e7.jpg


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[PQJ]

Nice to see that bike is equipped with proper components. All the best to Greg.

[William]

Looks like Mike has been hanging with the man!:cool: They look hawt to me!






William

[fuzzalow]

Best of luck to Greg and much success with his new bicycle company.

His original line of bikes had the unique geometry of being long in the top tube and being slack in the seat tube angle. The only offering of "long 'n' low ridePro" geometry on bikes intended for sale to the mass market at the time. I don't think that Greg's bikes will be offered with that kind of geometry this time around. Not sure too many buyers in the current market would want that.

[alessandro]

I like this fork. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUfCf19CEAAggRS.jpg:large

[binxnyrwarrsoul]

Notice he's seems down right jovial in most of those pics?

[oldpotatoe]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/19/gu3e8ygy.jpg


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Like a few things about this bicycle.

-Lemond
-Euro made
-Campagnolo, of course
-external der routing
-normal brakes...I just grappled a Boardman with integrated little V brakes. A crappier design just doesn't exist..samo for Storck, BMC, Special-Ed....
-normal-ish headset
-normal-ish BB(threaded?)
-normal seat post

[youngman]

Like a few things about this bicycle.

-Lemond
-Euro made
-Campagnolo, of course
-external der routing
-normal brakes...I just grappled a Boardman with integrated little V brakes. A crappier design just doesn't exist..samo for Storck, BMC, Special-Ed....
-normal-ish headset
-normal-ish BB(threaded?)
-normal seat post

oldpotatoe,

Nailed it! Couldn't agree more.

Jeff

[cdn_bacon]

retro LeMond script with a very modern flair on the rest of the bike does nothing for me.

Neither does the fade on the fork and the hard yellow line across the toptube.

I'm sure it rides and handles amazingly.

[sales guy]

I think the paint is too subtle. Needs more flash especially as a new brand/relaunch. I like he went with Time. LOVE my Time bikes. Fantastic rides. Love they are simple in set up. But again, hate the Trek era script on the down tube and the cheesy head tube logo.

[Waldo]

Seriously? Those are the graphics? Ugh. Wish they would be more like the older ones.

Agree completely. Plus I wish GL had brought back frames from VXR/VXRS aesthetic.

[Walter]

Interesting doings in the LeMond booth this morning. Ryder H. was signing autographs at a table in a Garmin shirt. Cervelo sponsors Garmin currently, but is rumored to be talking with Fernando Alonso's new squad for next year.

New bike sponsor for Garmin in 2014...?

[oldpotatoe]

Interesting doings in the LeMond booth this morning. Ryder H. was signing autographs at a table in a Garmin shirt. Cervelo sponsors Garmin currently, but is rumored.to be talking with Fernando Alonso's new squad for next year.

New bike sponsor for Garmin in 2014...?

One can only hope...fewer builds of new bikes after the old ones 'broke'...

[#campyuserftw]

Like a few things about this bicycle.

-Lemond
-Euro made
-Campagnolo, of course
-external der routing
-normal brakes...I just grappled a Boardman with integrated little V brakes. A crappier design just doesn't exist..samo for Storck, BMC, Special-Ed....
-normal-ish headset
-normal-ish BB(threaded?)
-normal seat post

And Campy wheels with tubes. Lots of mojo TIME by LeMond. White bar tape, of course.

That bike is moving in stereo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLymcAjtIMc

:cool:

[Mike V]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/20/yzebe5ad.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/20/unyjatyh.jpg

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[FlashUNC]

If this doesn't get you excited, well, I dunno what to tell you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzjv1XpGJnc

[metalheart]

If this doesn't get you excited, well, I dunno what to tell you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzjv1XpGJnc

And, if that does not do it, read "Slaying the Badger" about Hinault and LeMond in the 86 tour, best read of anything for me in awhile.

http://www.amazon.com/Slaying-Badger-Bernard-Hinault-Greatest/dp/1934030872

pps: I ain't a carbon bike guy ...., but my first road bike was a Lemond Team model from 87 or so in a beautiful pearl white, made I think by Roland Della Santa. I like Time bikes, if I were to ever buy a carbon stock I would take a close look at this one

[Elefantino]

What is interesting is how many people have jumped back on his bandwagon after USADA. There are many people on this forum who tried to bury him over the past decade or so.

[oldpotatoe]

What is interesting is how many people have jumped back on his bandwagon after USADA. There are many people on this forum who tried to bury him over the past decade or so.

No kidding, hero of the week.

I like Greg, like his bicycle philosophy, past and present. Wish the gig to become UCI pres. was more serious...

[wildboar]

Video of LeMond showing the bikes at Interbike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9v3JUEXgeQ

[#campyuserftw]

Video of LeMond showing the bikes at Interbike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9v3JUEXgeQ

Awesome, thanks for the vid. Hard not to root for him! Go Greg.

[William]

Video of LeMond showing the bikes at Interbike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9v3JUEXgeQ

Agree with campyuzer, after all the vitriol of the last number of years it's nice to see him up and going for it. Go Greg!






William