Is Easton carbon really for the toilette?

[shinomaster]

I was reading in velonew that Todd Well dropped his bike on some stairs and his carbon bar broke...

Then last night I was reading Erik Tonkins latest BLOG about racing in Belgium and he said his buddy barry Wicks broke his Carbon seatpost.

IS cross too hard on carbon?

http://www.crosscrusade.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=584&PN=1

[Serpico]

you're a magnet for controversy

[shinomaster]

I Am?

[Fixed]

bro I know you know what coach said cheers :beer:

[e-RICHIE]

i went to at least 14 uci races this autumn and
i think i saw broken cf h'bars and seatposts in
the elite events at every one. people must be
under contract to use this stuff because they
return race after race with the same brand
and the same item; the sponsor just ships it
out on monday. life at the top, etcetera.

[coylifut]

I saw a couple broken seat posts as well. i had a guy fall in front of me on a run and I stepped on his bars as the bike was laying on its side. it made a crunching sound. I found out later that they indeed broke. I'm an alloy guy my self. mostly because I fear people like me.

[William]

I saw a couple broken seat posts as well. i had a guy fall in front of me on a run and I stepped on his bars as the bike was laying on its side. it made a crunching sound. I found out later that they indeed broke. I'm an alloy guy my self. mostly because I fear people like me.

A vision:

Pile up in front of me....
pick up my rig and run...
carbon frames, seat posts, and bars...
Crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch...
"Get away from us you horse!!!"...
Whittling bits of carbon fiber out of the soles of my shoes...
Oh the humanity!!


William ;)

[Fixed]

bro here is the old anything light can break line. alloy bars can break too, have you ever heard this is a one season bar?cheers :beer:

[Kevan]

That said... I've been planning to replace'm before next season fires up.

[Too Tall]

My heros have always been crowbars :rolleyes:

[Dr. Doofus]

topless bars

[Ginger]

chocolate bars

[IXXI]

cliff bars

[William]

Monkey bars.




William

[David Kirk]

Broken bars.

Dave

[Kevan]

isobars!

[William]

Gay Bars (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

[sc53]

Mars (TM) bars--yummmm!

[pale scotsman]

Klondike Bars, mmmmmm.

[William]

Sand Bars. :crap:


William

[MartyE]

burglar

[pjm]

Behind bars.

[gary135r]

wicked cool cahbon bahs.

[cpg]

i went to at least 14 uci races this autumn and
i think i saw broken cf h'bars and seatposts in
the elite events at every one. people must be
under contract to use this stuff because they
return race after race with the same brand
and the same item; the sponsor just ships it
out on monday. life at the top, etcetera.

Does this mean there's aligators in the sewers of Boston?

Curt

[William]

Does this mean there's aligators in the sewers of Boston?

Curt


Seen them....
http://www.wnyc.org/__imageversions.py?item_id=19106&revision=0

They live on...

Kit Kat Bars :rolleyes:



William

[Frustration]

All that said,

When have you gone to a hard core cross race and not seen broken parts of lots of materials? Maybe carbon just sticks out a little more as we look for it.

And to single out Easton might be off a bit. I have not found their kit to be "stand out" fragile...

[e-RICHIE]

All that said,

When have you gone to a hard core cross race and not seen broken parts of lots of materials? Maybe carbon just sticks out a little more as we look for it.

And to single out Easton might be off a bit. I have not found their kit to be "stand out" fragile...

you won't see broken h'bars and seatposts
with any regularity if they're not carbon fiber.

[DRZRM]

For what it is worth, the only seatpost I've ever broken (though I've bent a bunch on my mountain bike) was a USE ti post. They replaced it happily (it was only a few months old and I sold it to a lighter friend, yes I fully disclosed the break). When I talked to their rep at a Podrostock race, he told me--even though I'd received it back directly from their company headquarters, that I must be mistaken as "none of their ti post had ever broken!" I figured I'd had enough of USE at that point.

That is to say, I've been running an EC-70 post on my road bike (old Syncros Al on mountain) for several seasons with no complaints. Certainly CF has no monopoly on failure.

Zach

[Fixed]

bro I broke an a.c. ti seatpost as well cheers :beer:

[shinomaster]

the man from Mars was eatin cars....then bars..

[Mud]

That is what I saw in our Easton Monkey Bars on our mountainbikes some years ago. Easton claimed that the shifters were too tight causing the stress fractures. We use metal bars on the road bikes. I have a carbon seatpost that I fear will have to be removed by a protologist one day after hitting some bumps in NJ roads.

[The Spider]

although my Easton bars have put up with a lot of cr@p from me over the years!

go to any MTB race and look at how many are using Easton bars...now go ahead and tell me they are weak or fragile? If there was a problem you'd be seeing it in XC and enduro events first....and the MTB seen has been using Easton products for a fair while now....so don't flush just yet.

[shinomaster]

Cross racers are using parts made for road riding. I bet they make their mountain bike bars a bit stronger?

[Keith A]

How about Victoria's Secret bras...oops, there goes my dyslexia again http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/9.gif

[Serotta PETE]

How about Victoria's Secret bras...oops, there goes my dyslexia again http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/9.gif

Everything carbon has a "life cycle span" whether it comes from Victoria or not.

[manet]

http://www.balcells.com/photo_albums/todd_ny04/todd_in_nyc_15.jpg

[The Spider]

I use both the mtb and road components, same company, same CNT carbon (although the EC90 Equipe are not CNT).

The MTB bars (XC, SL and DH) are some of the lightest mountain bike handlebars available but I believe people choose them because of Easton's reputation or the reputation of the Easton product (which isn't perfect - they released an 'inexpensive' EC70 carbon seatpost which was just cr@p).

If your comfortable with carbon forks....well I think you have to be comfortable with seatpost and bars too. And with cycling I think the complete failure of the majority of components will cause a rider large problems (i.e. snap a pedal axle, snap a stem, break a fork leg etc)