Cesare? Any info helpful!

[CampyMan]

Hello all,

I recently picked up an old steel framed bike that had some components that justified the price alone. With this said, I can't for the life of me find out anything about the Cesare branded frame. Featuring Campagnolo dropouts and forkends, I tend to believe it's not junk. Thanks for any/all replies.

Quick pic for decal reference (I also have the matching fork) attached!

[scooter]

Could be from this Italian company, Cesare Rizzato. See article from Bike Europe
http://www.bike-eu.com/Home/General/2000/10/Cesare-Rizzato-Cycles-Ends-Frame-Production-BIK000467W/

[fiamme red]

From Lou Deeter's "Used Bike Buyers Guide":

CESARE M: Italy. Once imported by Gus Betat, New Orleans.
Models:
Strada Tretubi SL 88-89 SL
Superbo SLX 88-89 SLX
MS 89 MS

I don't know if this is the same Cesare.

[CampyMan]

Thanks for the quick replies!

Unfortunately, I don't think this frame is associated with Cizarre Rizzato or Cezare M. From what I've seen, Cizarre Rizzato is associated with Atala branding. Also, Cezare M frames I've viewed feature an M on the headtube. Regardless, thank you for the replies and effort. Again, all replies are helpful!

[martl]

From Lou Deeter's "Used Bike Buyers Guide":

CESARE M: Italy. Once imported by Gus Betat, New Orleans.
Models:
Strada Tretubi SL 88-89 SL
Superbo SLX 88-89 SLX
MS 89 MS

I don't know if this is the same Cesare.

Different one at 99%. "Cesare M." was the label for upmarket bikes that big german mail-order company "Brügelmann" sold a couple of years.

(The same "Brügelmann" that gave us those red-yellow Cinellis in the sixties (https://www.google.com/search?q=br%C3%BCgelmann%20cinelli&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=FnsOUq6xPIathQeJi4CYCw&biw=2560&bih=1272&sei=GXsOUv6CIY2ShQfXiIGADA))

pics of a Cesare M:
http://cicli-berlinetta.de/2010/11/05/cesare-m/


As you can see, different typeset on the name.

Contrary to what Dustin writes on his website, there wasn't a bike builder called "Cesare M." .
Rumours are the "M" stood for "Manfred Brügelmann" and the name translated to "Kaiser (=Emporer) Manfred"

But "Cesare" is a common italian name...