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ada@prorider.or
12-17-2005, 05:06 PM
do you want to trust decending at 50 mph
on this one

Serpico
12-17-2005, 05:12 PM
do you want to trust decending at 50 mph
on this one
not if it's already broken :D


anything can break--what's the story behind the above pic?

FierteTi52
12-17-2005, 05:14 PM
American Classic Micro hub?
Jeff

e-RICHIE
12-17-2005, 05:14 PM
[ ] yes
[ ] no
[x] is there a squirrel involved?

ada@prorider.or
12-17-2005, 05:29 PM
not if it's already broken :D


anything can break--what's the story behind the above pic?

well the guy wrote just blow under me wile riding
no fall nothing

e-RICHIE
12-17-2005, 05:31 PM
well the guy wrote just blow under me wile riding
no fall nothing


i'm thinkin' "really fast, thin squirrel".
sorry - it's happy hour on the east coast.

Roy E. Munson
12-17-2005, 05:34 PM
sorry - it's happy hour on the east coast.

It's always happy hour on the east coast!

ergott
12-17-2005, 05:40 PM
American Classic Micro hub?
Jeff

It's not an AC for sure. I don't know if that's even a name brand hub. So many possibilities, don't know where to begin.

Improper tension
hub not made for radial lacing
something could have simply hit the wheel
cheap crappy hub
defect in the al

Judging by the look of the brake surface and the fracture point, this was relatively new and it happened suddenly. There is no discoloration in the fracture so this wasn't cyclic fatigue.

I've seen pictures of hub failures even with crossed spoking. Bottom line, build with quality parts, follow the right procedures, and make sure the finished product is intended for the use at hand.

Fixed
12-17-2005, 05:45 PM
bro I know that junk they break all the time that 's your gamble lightweight junk i.m.h.o. cheers :beer: cheers merry christmas :fight: :beer:

ada@prorider.or
12-17-2005, 06:17 PM
American Classic Micro hub?
Jeff

T............

weisan
12-17-2005, 06:22 PM
i don't understand why some people are so quick to blame the equipment on just about anything bad that happened to them??? It's almost like the unwritten Newton's fourth law of physics: "If it breaks, it's at fault."

ergott
12-17-2005, 06:24 PM
T............

A little too cryptic for me. What does that meen?

Redturbo
12-17-2005, 07:58 PM
Its a Tune built out of spec. :no:

ergott
12-17-2005, 08:03 PM
Its a Tune built out of spec. :no:

I think i see the beginning of the t. How was it out of spec?

vaxn8r
12-17-2005, 08:06 PM
Yeah, you may be right. That doesn't look like AC. Could be a Tune.

Redturbo
12-17-2005, 08:10 PM
I think i see the beginning of the t. How was it out of spec?
32 spoke radially :crap:

Fixed
12-17-2005, 08:29 PM
bro anyone know that rim? cheers :beer:

93legendti
12-17-2005, 10:26 PM
Tune...

Sandy
12-17-2005, 11:20 PM
Some Tune hubs are not designed for radial lacing. I saw a rear Tune hub that broke in the same manner, and Tune said that it sould not have been radial laced.


Name that tune,


Singing Sandy

shinomaster
12-17-2005, 11:33 PM
Was this a Unicycle? THey race Cross on Unicycles out here in Portland. Probably not designed for unicycles.

Fixed
12-18-2005, 08:18 AM
bro I really get p.o. when i see stuff like that cos that could be bro 's life.excuse me for my anger that is one of the reasons I am anti weight weenie are a few grams worth your life? cheers :beer:

Doc Austin
12-18-2005, 08:37 AM
It ain't Durace.

csm
12-18-2005, 11:00 AM
I've seen that happen with several different hubs. It used to be almost always because the wheel was built improperly. with machine-made wheels I think it's 'cause they're french.

jartzt
12-18-2005, 11:12 AM
Here's the thread from weight weenies where this orginated (I think):

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7282

This was a Tune hub. Tune's manual states no radial lacing with 32 or more spokes. This wheel was built with radial lacing on a 32 spoke hub. RTFM. Also, this is not limited to the Tune stuff. My King front is built three-cross (a few more grams, a lot less stress). King Precision specifically states they do not support radially lacing (with any drilling).

A few grams or a slight change in wind resistence is not worth the risk of a catastrophic failure.

Sorry, I'll step off the soap box now.

shaq-d
12-18-2005, 06:20 PM
as i quickly learned in my short stint as a tech support guy...most problems are user error.

sd

Serpico
12-18-2005, 06:25 PM
...

RTFM

...


exactly :beer:

which is why I'm not sure it's instructive to post such pics

if it were accompanied by "this is what happens when you radial lace 32x on a Tune hub", not just a pic without commentary

anything can break

Blastinbob
12-18-2005, 08:14 PM
nm