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Nooch
06-03-2013, 06:45 AM
So Ben and Company have one of our mechanics (and Cat 1 Racer) on a Pronto -- man are they doing it right on this...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8547/8930042133_7c9177a3cd_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54300653@N02/8930042133/)
IMG_5387 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54300653@N02/8930042133/) by TrickImaging (http://www.flickr.com/people/54300653@N02/), on Flickr

Our shop owner also had a chance to spend some time on one this weekend, he's got a quick video review at cyclesportonline.com.

It was being raced hard in Philly yesterday -- ran into Ben while there and he apologized for the delays bringing this bad boy to market, but it's looking good for next month.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3815/8931456306_164b837c8d_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54300653@N02/8931456306/)
IMG_5940 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54300653@N02/8931456306/) by TrickImaging (http://www.flickr.com/people/54300653@N02/), on Flickr

AngryScientist
06-03-2013, 07:36 AM
woot!

racing on Ti. Serottas! it's a beautiful thing!

crupshaw
06-03-2013, 07:52 AM
That is exactly the kind of Serotta I want. I will be looking at this for a graduation present to myself in a few years (unless Serotta wants to sponsor an up and coming collegiate Cat B racer...).

firerescuefin
06-03-2013, 08:00 AM
Thanks for sharing Nooch...way to go Ben and Rusty L... That is sweet!

charliedid
06-03-2013, 08:01 AM
Nice

Nooch
06-03-2013, 08:08 AM
everyone has been really impressed with it so far. Zach, our racing friend, has said it's every bit as stiff as his super six, but smooooth.

93legendti
06-03-2013, 08:16 AM
Looks great!

laupsi
06-03-2013, 09:04 AM
that is a beautiful thing and in more ways than one; nice bike, perfect material, terrific marketing, great idea! :)

spacemen3
06-03-2013, 09:10 AM
Looks sweet to me! :beer:

SamIAm
06-03-2013, 09:24 AM
That looks great.

Kirk Pacenti
06-03-2013, 09:28 AM
That looks like a great bike... how is it different from a Legend?

Nooch
06-03-2013, 09:39 AM
That looks like a great bike... how is it different from a Legend?

I'll let the RustyLion and SHOCK chime in on this one, especially since SHOCK designed it, but from what I know this bike is brand new from the ground up. PF30 Bottom Bracket, much more aggressive geometry, shorter wheel base, new Serotta S5 fork... Oversized tubes, different butting profiles, etc, etc...

Nooch
06-10-2013, 08:41 PM
The pronto is live on Serotta's site!!

BumbleBeeDave
06-10-2013, 08:59 PM
. . . http://serotta.com/pronto-sg/

BBD

sailorboy
06-10-2013, 09:01 PM
Wow, they are onto something here I think. It looks fast and purpose-built for racing like they say, but at a price point that keeps it from being too 'dear' to race.

I'd love to test one out.

One problem; the link to geo table on the pronto tab just goes to the part specs, not the geometry. Anyone have the proper link to the geo chart?

thx

BumbleBeeDave
06-10-2013, 09:02 PM
. . . That SRAM Red race build may seem expensive, but it's with ZIPP 404's . . .

BBD

nighthawk
06-10-2013, 09:06 PM
The geometry chart link is wrong on the serotta site... but it is here:

PRONTO GEO CHART (http://serotta.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/130410-Pronto-Sizes.pdf)

Great job on the Pronto.. Ben, Bill and crew. You guys should be proud.

Len J
06-10-2013, 09:09 PM
Shame it's only offered w SRAM.

Len

nmrt
06-10-2013, 09:14 PM
as a relative newcomer to cycling, i have had no opinion on serotta bikes. i had heard good things about their engineering but to me i had no reason to choose them over seven or moots. but now, it seems to me at least that serotta is finally showing its cards. and i like it! the pricing is fair, they have bikes for everyone (racers, grand fondo-ers etc),and best of all -- they have started to make bikes that also look beautiful.

rising
from the heart of oblivion
serotta
now stirs my soul

btw, does the pronto sf come is oversized head tubes? what about the diameter of the chainstays?

christian
06-10-2013, 09:15 PM
Looks amazing.
Geo perfect in a 56.
Serotta quality paint and finishing.

oooooooh.

christian
06-10-2013, 09:16 PM
Shame it's only offered w SRAM. Buy f/f, hang Record on it. Done.

thirdgenbird
06-10-2013, 09:28 PM
Buy f/f, hang Record on it. Done.

I was just going to say that I would take mine with record, shamal wheels wrapped in veoloflexs tires, deda bar/stem/post, an slr, and some keos.

Edit: maybe Thomson bar/stem/post. I will need to sleep on it.

dbh
06-10-2013, 09:38 PM
Very competitive in pricing with CC's reborn Merlin. Glad Serotta didn't overdo it on the sloping TT. Curious what a complete weighs with a rival package.

petitelilpettit
06-10-2013, 09:44 PM
I am really digging this bike!!!! Something to aspire to in the (hopefully near) future.

Peter B
06-10-2013, 10:00 PM
Nice!

bcm119
06-10-2013, 11:25 PM
I wonder why they went with a 7cm BB drop. I always thought one of Serotta's defining handling characteristics was a low BB.

zetroc
06-11-2013, 01:30 AM
frame, fork, chorus 11, ksyrium SLR tubulars, veloflex carbons, 3t stuff... sorely tempted.

jpw
06-11-2013, 03:33 AM
I wonder why they went with a 7cm BB drop. I always thought one of Serotta's defining handling characteristics was a low BB.

pedal strike?

soulspinner
06-11-2013, 05:03 AM
pedal strike?

It is a race bike, so ya.........guessing you are right.

Nooch
06-11-2013, 05:28 AM
I wonder why they went with a 7cm BB drop. I always thought one of Serotta's defining handling characteristics was a low BB.

only 7 on the small small bikes -- 7.5 from 52 on

fuzzalow
06-11-2013, 05:54 AM
only 7 on the small small bikes -- 7.5 from 52 on

Strike that. Reverse it.

shovelhd
06-11-2013, 06:18 AM
The 54cm geometry is a great fir for me. I'd race it.

Nooch
06-11-2013, 06:51 AM
Strike that. Reverse it.

ah yes, that. early morning typing... :bike:

xeladragon
06-11-2013, 07:00 AM
Really diggin' the new Serottas that have been rolling out the door lately, and the Pronto is no exception. It's amazing what some fresh paint schemes, better pictures/social media presence, and more competitive pricing can do in a relatively short period of time. Kudos to Bill, Ben, and the rest of the team. If I were in the market for a nice, non-carbon race bike, Serotta and Gaulzetti would top my list right now. Anyone else selling complete race bikes at just a tad over $4k?

93legendti
06-11-2013, 07:48 AM
Sounds like a winner to me. Great price and that blue is really pretty.

oldpotatoe
06-11-2013, 07:54 AM
Really diggin' the new Serottas that have been rolling out the door lately, and the Pronto is no exception. It's amazing what some fresh paint schemes, better pictures/social media presence, and more competitive pricing can do in a relatively short period of time. Kudos to Bill, Ben, and the rest of the team. If I were in the market for a nice, non-carbon race bike, Serotta and Gaulzetti would top my list right now. Anyone else selling complete race bikes at just a tad over $4k?

? What makes a 'complete race bike'?

Find an aluminum frame, carbon fork, 105 10s group and you can race that.

With US 'racing', means 3-4 turn crits, in industrial parks..for those in Cat 4 land, means crashing(at least it was for me when I 'raced'...).

FlashUNC
06-11-2013, 08:00 AM
Really diggin' the new Serottas that have been rolling out the door lately, and the Pronto is no exception. It's amazing what some fresh paint schemes, better pictures/social media presence, and more competitive pricing can do in a relatively short period of time. Kudos to Bill, Ben, and the rest of the team. If I were in the market for a nice, non-carbon race bike, Serotta and Gaulzetti would top my list right now. Anyone else selling complete race bikes at just a tad over $4k?

Indeed...one wonders....maybe Cannondale should raise the price of the CAAD10 a bit?

Cannondale CAAD10 (http://www.rei.com/product/844775/cannondale-caad10-5-compact-bike-2013)

Nooch
06-11-2013, 08:29 AM
? What makes a 'complete race bike'?

Find an aluminum frame, carbon fork, 105 10s group and you can race that.

With US 'racing', means 3-4 turn crits, in industrial parks..for those in Cat 4 land, means crashing(at least it was for me when I 'raced'...).

The 'more-aggressive-than-any-other-serotta' geometry makes it a race bike, Peter..

C'mon now.. you know the target audience of Serotta. And this, at a lower price point, can expand on that audience a little bit to people who want to graduate from their caad9 or allez or other aluminum racing bike, and gives them an option other than a supersix or a tarmac.

Maybe this is the bike that someone with a decent income can pick up and retire their caad9, ride the heck out of, fall in love with the brand (like I hear people used to back in the 80's and 90's), and then graduate again when their career picks up, drop the coin on an ottrot or meivici. Maybe it helps get rid of the 'Dentist' image because it's got an aggressive geometry that people in their 20's and 30's are looking for, whether or not they're racing, because it looks cool..

xeladragon
06-11-2013, 09:11 AM
I don't race so let me rephrase... a nice, non-carbon "go fast" bike. An upgrade from a CAAD10, which is my current "go fast" -- or at least try to go faster -- bike.

shovelhd
06-11-2013, 09:36 AM
With US 'racing', means 3-4 turn crits, in industrial parks..for those in Cat 4 land, means crashing(at least it was for me when I 'raced'...).

If that's all "US racing" was, I wouldn't be racing.

zmudshark
06-11-2013, 10:08 AM
http://serotta.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/130410-Pronto-Sizes.pdf

EDS
06-11-2013, 10:45 AM
The 'more-aggressive-than-any-other-serotta' geometry makes it a race bike, Peter..

C'mon now.. you know the target audience of Serotta. And this, at a lower price point, can expand on that audience a little bit to people who want to graduate from their caad9 or allez or other aluminum racing bike, and gives them an option other than a supersix or a tarmac.

Maybe this is the bike that someone with a decent income can pick up and retire their caad9, ride the heck out of, fall in love with the brand (like I hear people used to back in the 80's and 90's), and then graduate again when their career picks up, drop the coin on an ottrot or meivici. Maybe it helps get rid of the 'Dentist' image because it's got an aggressive geometry that people in their 20's and 30's are looking for, whether or not they're racing, because it looks cool..

Hmm. Looks like the increased the length of the headtube from the HSG geometry (at least in the 57 cm size it is a full 2 cm longer).

T.J.
06-11-2013, 10:46 AM
If that's all "US racing" was, I wouldn't be racing.

Truth !

Nooch
06-11-2013, 11:08 AM
Hmm. Looks like the increased the length of the headtube from the HSG geometry (at least in the 57 cm size it is a full 2 cm longer).

Head Tube on a 57 pronto: 15.8cm
Head Tube on a 57 Meivici: 16.7cm

Not to mention, the meivici sg is built with 7.1 degrees of slope in a 57, and the Pronto maintains 4 degrees of slope --

Where are you looking at the HSG Geometry?

EDS
06-11-2013, 11:13 AM
Head Tube on a 57 pronto: 15.8cm
Head Tube on a 57 Meivici: 16.7cm

Not to mention, the meivici sg is built with 7.1 degrees of slope in a 57, and the Pronto maintains 4 degrees of slope --

Where are you looking at the HSG Geometry?

The HSG Ti I own has a 57 cm top tube with a 13.8 cm headtube. 3.5 degrees of slope. Seatube and headtube angles are the same as the pronto.

SHOCK
06-11-2013, 11:17 AM
Glad to hear that most are pleased with the Pronto Geometry...I am very happy with it!

Yes...it is taller than the HSG in its original incarnation back in 2007. But, what I did not want to happen with these frames is for them to be set up with massive spacer stack. So many "typical" production frames will be ridden with a 2-2.5 cm tapered topcap and then 2-3 cm of spacers...that looks horrible ATMO. I would much rather see bikes with .5-1 cm of spacer...

We wanted people to be able to fit these frames and for them to still be aesthetically pleasing. There are so many stem options out there from -17 angles on up, people will actually be able to ride these the way they were designed.

Thanks for all of the feedback...we are working HARD in Saratoga and Poway!

keevon
06-11-2013, 11:23 AM
...it's got an aggressive geometry that people in their 20's and 30's are looking for, whether or not they're racing, because it looks cool..

Hmm... I'm guessing $3,300 for a non-custom frameset is a tough pill for a lot of the 20's & 30's crowd to swallow. I certainly don't see this as a "stepping stone" bike to the land of uber-expensive customs for that demographic.

bcm119
06-11-2013, 11:49 AM
pedal strike?

Interesting reading on this very subject:

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=16897

bluesea
06-11-2013, 12:45 PM
But, what I did not want to happen with these frames is for them to be set up with massive spacer stack. So many "typical" production frames will be ridden with a 2-2.5 cm tapered topcap and then 2-3 cm of spacers...that looks horrible ATMO. I would much rather see bikes with .5-1 cm of spacer...





:beer:

EDS
06-11-2013, 01:21 PM
Glad to hear that most are pleased with the Pronto Geometry...I am very happy with it!

Yes...it is taller than the HSG in its original incarnation back in 2007. But, what I did not want to happen with these frames is for them to be set up with massive spacer stack. So many "typical" production frames will be ridden with a 2-2.5 cm tapered topcap and then 2-3 cm of spacers...that looks horrible ATMO. I would much rather see bikes with .5-1 cm of spacer...

We wanted people to be able to fit these frames and for them to still be aesthetically pleasing. There are so many stem options out there from -17 angles on up, people will actually be able to ride these the way they were designed.

Thanks for all of the feedback...we are working HARD in Saratoga and Poway!

I can understand your thinking. That said, if your goal is to minimize spacer use I don't quite understand the comparsion you used - e.g., a "typical" product frame and use of spacers you typically see.

In comparison to a 57cm Pronto, a 57cm Giant TCR Advanced has a 17cm headtube, a 56.5 cm Specialized Tarmac has a 17cm headtube, a 56.5 cm Pinarello Dogma Think 2 has a 16.5 cm headtube and a 57.5 cm Cannondale Super Six as a 17.5 cm headtube.

Does the external headset on the Pronto add that much to the stack that it makes the front that much taller than the "typical" production bikes referenced above?

fa63
06-11-2013, 02:26 PM
A typical external cup headset adds 25-30 mm to the stack.

dd74
06-11-2013, 02:28 PM
Cool bike. But I'm a bit confused though.

Is the Pronto built for the rider or is it an off the rack bike?

I thought I read the Ti tubing is double butted. Is that true?

How much does the bike weigh with the SRAM components and wheels?

And I guess "drilling" for electronic is out of the question on the Pronto, right? Funny, 'cause I thought I saw that "drilling" on the Legend frame is an option.

beeatnik
06-11-2013, 03:04 PM
Hmm... I'm guessing $3,300 for a non-custom frameset is a tough pill for a lot of the 20's & 30's crowd to swallow. I certainly don't see this as a "stepping stone" bike to the land of uber-expensive customs for that demographic.

My unemployed 19 year old riding buddy just spent $3500 on a Cervelo R3. He was riding a Cervelo track frame brakeless for about 2 years. Kids who like bikes will find the money. IMO, 3 grand plus is the new normal.

Nooch
06-11-2013, 03:44 PM
Cool bike. But I'm a bit confused though.

Is the Pronto built for the rider or is it an off the rack bike?

I thought I read the Ti tubing is double butted. Is that true?

How much does the bike weigh with the SRAM components and wheels?

And I guess "drilling" for electronic is out of the question on the Pronto, right? Funny, 'cause I thought I saw that "drilling" on the Legend frame is an option.

The pronto is off the shelf. Stock Geometries. Size specific tubes. The 56 with red and 303's that we had in the shop was around 16.5lbs. The 60cm blue one that Zach Koop was riding with Ksyriums and DA 9000 was about 17 lbs, IIRC.

So the only options, and SHOCK correct me if I'm wrong, are going to be the paint and which Tried and True package you select. And I don't believe serotta is drilling an all Ti frame (yet)..

rustylion
06-11-2013, 07:28 PM
http://serotta.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/130611-Pronto-Sizes.pdf

Wow, they are onto something here I think. It looks fast and purpose-built for racing like they say, but at a price point that keeps it from being too 'dear' to race.

I'd love to test one out.

One problem; the link to geo table on the pronto tab just goes to the part specs, not the geometry. Anyone have the proper link to the geo chart?

thx

VulcanVillain
06-11-2013, 11:34 PM
Noob...and I'll probably get flamed and/or banned for asking, but...

What's the deal with the borderline erotic fixation with Serotta on these boards? Seems like 1/4 of the posts (maybe slight exaggeration, but you get my point) here and in classifieds are about Serottas. Will someone please enlighten me?

Peter B
06-12-2013, 12:02 AM
There once was a url...www.serotta.com/forum

Noob...and I'll probably get flamed and/or banned for asking, but...

What's the deal with the borderline erotic fixation with Serotta on these boards? Seems like 1/4 of the posts (maybe slight exaggeration, but you get my point) here and in classifieds are about Serottas. Will someone please enlighten me?

christian
06-12-2013, 12:03 AM
The board was sponsored by Serotta and was named "The Serotta Forum" for about 8-9 years (2003 - 2012ish). Pre-2003 is sometimes referred to as the Kahuna era. Kahuna was the founder and an early mod. Understandably, many of us owned Serottas and many others are fond of the brand. I've never owned one, but alembical's CSI is one of the best bikes I've ever ridden.

skouri1
06-12-2013, 02:30 AM
Hmm... I'm guessing $3,300 for a non-custom frameset is a tough pill for a lot of the 20's & 30's crowd to swallow. I certainly don't see this as a "stepping stone" bike to the land of uber-expensive customs for that demographic.
I have never seen more ridiculously expensive bikes than at a local beginner race in europe. People are rocking wheels that cost that much.

Frankly, this whip should be compared to a Moots RSL, which fetches more than a $1k more more. It's in fact cheaper than the vamoots or the cr.
Moots has better welds. I have a serotta, the welds are nice, but moots are robotic nice.

I never once have thought about what my welds look like while riding and absolutely never while riding fast or racing.

Serotta also comes with a deluxe paint job. That's got to count for something.

This **** is priced right! I hope these sell well. The fact that you can get a complete model for 4k is almost criminal.

dd74
06-12-2013, 03:35 AM
http://serotta.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/130611-Pronto-Sizes.pdf

Rusty - PM'd you.

oldpotatoe
06-12-2013, 07:50 AM
I have never seen more ridiculously expensive bikes than at a local beginner race in europe. People are rocking wheels that cost that much.

Frankly, this whip should be compared to a Moots RSL, which fetches more than a $1k more more. It's in fact cheaper than the vamoots or the cr.
Moots has better welds. I have a serotta, the welds are nice, but moots are robotic nice.

I never once have thought about what my welds look like while riding and absolutely never while riding fast or racing.

Serotta also comes with a deluxe paint job. That's got to count for something.

This **** is priced right! I hope these sell well. The fact that you can get a complete model for 4k is almost criminal.

Vamoots and CR are $3200, frame only.

RSL is $4500 frame and fork.

oldpotatoe
06-12-2013, 07:53 AM
The 'more-aggressive-than-any-other-serotta' geometry makes it a race bike, Peter..

C'mon now.. you know the target audience of Serotta. And this, at a lower price point, can expand on that audience a little bit to people who want to graduate from their caad9 or allez or other aluminum racing bike, and gives them an option other than a supersix or a tarmac.

Maybe this is the bike that someone with a decent income can pick up and retire their caad9, ride the heck out of, fall in love with the brand (like I hear people used to back in the 80's and 90's), and then graduate again when their career picks up, drop the coin on an ottrot or meivici. Maybe it helps get rid of the 'Dentist' image because it's got an aggressive geometry that people in their 20's and 30's are looking for, whether or not they're racing, because it looks cool..

Ya miss my point. I was saying to xeladragon that there are many $4000 or less 'race bikes', when he asked if anybody else offered one AND my point of what makes a 'race bike' means almost nothing. ya can race anything...like some knob once said, 'it's not about the bike'...Larry or Lannie or somebody.

Nooch
06-12-2013, 07:58 AM
Ya miss my point. I was saying to xeladragon that there are many $4000 or less 'race bikes', when he asked if anybody else offered one AND my point of what makes a 'race bike' means almost nothing. ya can race anything...like some knob once said, 'it's not about the bike'...Larry or Lannie or somebody.

I gotcha, Pietro!

jpw
06-12-2013, 08:52 AM
"It is to our dismay that we must announce the postponement of the Open House event and barbecue that we had scheduled for the weekend of Sept. 6-8. With the launch of the Pronto, other projects in the works, a potential fall event and the desire to properly restore our Serotta Racing Museum & Visitor Center, we feel this event would simply not meet the standards we set for ourselves. You deserve our full attention.
Meanwhile, if you are going to be in Saratoga Springs we invite you to sign up for one of our free monthly tours, which are held on the third Friday of the month. For full details and to register, see our Events page.
The post Closed House appeared first on Serotta."

other projects in the works? Any hints here?

93legendti
06-12-2013, 09:11 AM
Vamoots and CR are $3200, frame only.

RSL is $4500 frame and fork.

Pronto is $3295 frame and fork:



"Complete Bike With:
SRAM Rival Tried & True Component Kit: $4,295
SRAM Force Tried & True Component Kit: $4,695
SRAM Red Tried & True Component Kit: $7,695
Frame + Fork Only: $3,295"

BumbleBeeDave
06-12-2013, 09:54 AM
. . . is that it is a bike aimed at a specific demographic and price point that can get some new owners into the brand, get the company name out there in some public racing situations, and it is truly competitively priced within a few hundred dollars with equivalent products from other Ti builders. That's a price difference that can be overcome on the high side with effective presentation of the company's superior product development, fit and finish, testing, and customer service.

They have always had great products. What has been missing is effective marketing, reputation management, and pricing. This particular product shows that these problems are being corrected. That's something I have not seen in the 12 years I have been a Serotta owner and I'm very encouraged.

They now need to stay the course and give these efforts a chance to work. It's not going to happen overnight, but I feel they are definitely making the right moves.

BBD

dbh
06-12-2013, 10:01 AM
I just hope that with the proliferation of new models, particularly ti, they can differentiate the product lines. With their stock sized bikes, not sure what differentiates the Legend from the Pronto and Fondo asides from the astronomical price.

dd74
06-12-2013, 12:44 PM
. . . is that it is a bike aimed at a specific demographic and price point that can get some new owners into the brand, get the company name out there in some public racing situations, and it is truly competitively priced within a few hundred dollars with equivalent products from other Ti builders. That's a price difference that can be overcome on the high side with effective presentation of the company's superior product development, fit and finish, testing, and customer service.

They have always had great products. What has been missing is effective marketing, reputation management, and pricing. This particular product shows that these problems are being corrected. That's something I have not seen in the 12 years I have been a Serotta owner and I'm very encouraged.

They now need to stay the course and give these efforts a chance to work. It's not going to happen overnight, but I feel they are definitely making the right moves.

BBD
Yup...

dd74
06-12-2013, 12:45 PM
I just hope that with the proliferation of new models, particularly ti, they can differentiate the product lines. With their stock sized bikes, not sure what differentiates the Legend from the Pronto and Fondo asides from the astronomical price.
Maybe the "bespoke" instance of the Legend is the differentiating factor. But yes, that is an interesting question. If the Ottrott were the price of the Legend, that would make more sense.

rustylion
06-13-2013, 11:30 AM
I wrote a blog post (www.rustylion.com) on the back story to our Open House cancellation. You may find it interesting and generally addresses the "what is coming next" topic.

It is better to deliver than to promise. We are working with "heads down" on the delivery of stuff that we think you will find valuable.

Now, we are hosting regular monthly tours. So, while we won't host a stand-alone Open House event in 2013, our doors are wide open to you and the community. If interested, tour sign up is available on our website.

Thanks.

"It is to our dismay that we must announce the postponement of the Open House event and barbecue that we had scheduled for the weekend of Sept. 6-8. With the launch of the Pronto, other projects in the works, a potential fall event and the desire to properly restore our Serotta Racing Museum & Visitor Center, we feel this event would simply not meet the standards we set for ourselves. You deserve our full attention.
Meanwhile, if you are going to be in Saratoga Springs we invite you to sign up for one of our free monthly tours, which are held on the third Friday of the month. For full details and to register, see our Events page.
The post Closed House appeared first on Serotta."

other projects in the works? Any hints here?

soulspinner
06-13-2013, 03:35 PM
Couple things I dont get. One is how come the race bikes get the pretty paint and us slowpokes on Fondos get that dull finish. Im gonna crash the race bike, right? Also, the only difference in the tried an true kit from Force to Red is the 8 piece group, the rest is exactly the same (isnt it)? $3000 difference is more than the MSRP diff or did I miss that too?

SHOCK
06-13-2013, 04:11 PM
The Red Kit offers an upgraded wheelset to Zipp 303 Firecrest with Michelin Pro 4 tires as well as a Zipp handlebar, stem, and seat-post.

The Pronto is offered in 6 different finish options. Matte Titanium with white or orange decals is the first tier. There are then 2 options at the next tier of Matte Titanium and High-Polish Logos or the Stealth Red option (matte red logos on gloss red main color). The third tier offers two 3-color options. The first we are calling Maverick (grey, red, and black) and the other is Cool Runnings (black, green, and yellow).
You can see a representation of the options here: There are also images on our website of the Stealth Red and Maverick
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christian
06-13-2013, 04:22 PM
nvm

SHOCK
06-13-2013, 04:30 PM
The Pronto and the Legend (even the Legend SG) are entirely different frames. The Legend tubing goes through a LOT more tubing manipulation with more extensive butting and then swaging (tapering). The geometries are also totally different in the stock sizes and you can also get the Legend SE in custom geometries. Take a look at the geometry charts for the different models on our website.

The Pronto and the Fondo are both stock offerings, however the geometry and the tubing selections are totally different. The Pronto is much lower and longer with shorter chain-stays and tighter angles. The Fondo is much more relaxed in design of geometry and ride quality.

We now have 4 different options for stock frames and most are available within 1-3 weeks time depending on inventory...some are ready to ship today.

dbh
06-13-2013, 06:27 PM
The Pronto and the Legend (even the Legend SG) are entirely different frames. The Legend tubing goes through a LOT more tubing manipulation with more extensive butting and then swaging (tapering). The geometries are also totally different in the stock sizes and you can also get the Legend SE in custom geometries. Take a look at the geometry charts for the different models on our website.

The Pronto and the Fondo are both stock offerings, however the geometry and the tubing selections are totally different. The Pronto is much lower and longer with shorter chain-stays and tighter angles. The Fondo is much more relaxed in design of geometry and ride quality.

We now have 4 different options for stock frames and most are available within 1-3 weeks time depending on inventory...some are ready to ship today.
Thanks. Very helpful. Might not hurt to draw the distinction out a bit on the website without the need to compare geo charts throughout all three models. FWIW, if I was in the market today for something new and racy, I'd consider the Pronto in a heartbeat. Just what Serotta needed IMO. Now when is there going to be a cross version?

soulspinner
06-14-2013, 05:48 AM
The Red Kit offers an upgraded wheelset to Zipp 303 Firecrest with Michelin Pro 4 tires as well as a Zipp handlebar, stem, and seat-post.

The Pronto is offered in 6 different finish options. Matte Titanium with white or orange decals is the first tier. There are then 2 options at the next tier of Matte Titanium and High-Polish Logos or the Stealth Red option (matte red logos on gloss red main color). The third tier offers two 3-color options. The first we are calling Maverick (grey, red, and black) and the other is Cool Runnings (black, green, and yellow).
You can see a representation of the options here: There are also images on our website of the Stealth Red and Maverick
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Ahh, makes sense. Thanks Shock. Wanna do the tour this year. Lived near enuf Saratoga to see Serottas home but never visited.......

crupshaw
06-14-2013, 09:19 AM
Gotta love the Cool Runnings paint scheme.

Nooch
06-16-2013, 06:54 AM
Got a few more shots of Zach's Blue Ribbon Pronto yesterday, figured I'd share!

Here (http://thecyclesportexperience.com)
http://thecyclesportexperience.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/img_6057.jpg?w=370&h=

S2H
06-18-2013, 07:09 AM
Kind of want.

mike p
06-18-2013, 08:04 AM
Zach's paint scheme isn't an offering from Serotta? Can you get custom paint?

Mike

Nooch
06-18-2013, 09:17 AM
Zach's paint scheme isn't an offering from Serotta? Can you get custom paint?

Mike

the paint on Zach's bike is to match his team kit -- I'm not sure if custom paint is available, but if it is, then I believe that's the OMG all out version..

rustylion
06-18-2013, 09:26 AM
Custom Paint is not an option for the Pronto. There are six standard schemes some of which have related upcharges. The details can be found on our website (http://serotta.com/pronto-sg/).

Zach is a sponsored athlete in 2013. As such and just for fun, we helped match his Pronto finish to his team colors.

Thanks.


Zach's paint scheme isn't an offering from Serotta? Can you get custom paint?

Mike

TimD
06-18-2013, 10:39 AM
I just forwarded the link to the image of the orange bike to my crew, under the headline "Before you buy that carbon Parlee..." :)