View Full Version : The new Cannibal
BumbleBeeDave
03-26-2013, 01:05 PM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/vdk-driedaagse-de-panne-koksijde-2013/stage-1/results
I have a feeling we are going to be seeing this an awful lot this year and forward.
Even in the sprints . . . look at the results. Greipel 11th and the Manx Missile way down in 16th!
BBD
MattTuck
03-26-2013, 01:11 PM
That was a good show definitely. I go hot and cold with Sagan, but Sunday and today, you have to give credit to him, he animates the race and lets his legs do the talking.
We'll see how he does with the rest of the big one day classics.
bluesea
03-26-2013, 01:11 PM
Eddy didn't become the Cannibal till his palmares over the years fully justified the moniker.
christian
03-26-2013, 01:20 PM
Was it cfox who said it? His performances are incredible.
slidey
03-26-2013, 01:26 PM
Its too early in the season yet for the pure sprinters. I'd be thoroughly impressed if during the grand tours, Sagan is able to hold a candle to Cav during sprint finishes.
crownjewelwl
03-26-2013, 01:28 PM
isnt he already called the TERMINATOR??
better and more up-to-date moniker
bluesea
03-26-2013, 01:33 PM
^ Mo betta.
MattTuck
03-26-2013, 01:35 PM
isnt he already called the TERMINATOR??
better and more up-to-date moniker
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRHh_NVOn-sHRyn5Sr4Z9PkAap82uuWBT4_Dp0bMaREZNe3LcGt_g
Elefantino
03-26-2013, 01:45 PM
Good to see that Boonen can ride. Hope his knee is better for Sunday. I want all-out war between him, Spartacus and the Terminator.
torquer
03-26-2013, 01:47 PM
Terminator will work for now.
He's approaching EM's stature, in that he seems to be able to win in a break, in a bunch sprint, or even solo, if that were called for. Now all he needs is a fistfull of grand tour wins, throw in an hour worlds record, and a couple winters of dominating six-day races, and then we can start making comparisments.
But like I said (days before he popped his cherry with his first classics win), the kid has time.
Meanwhile, he's looking good for a repeat in the green jersey come July, even spotting Cav a couple bunch sprints; he'll rack up the points in uphill finishes and intermediate sprints while the other contenders are back in the grupetto.
retrofit
03-26-2013, 02:04 PM
Missed it this morning but watched the final 4k here (http://www.steephill.tv/players/youtube3/?title=Last+4+Km+of+Stage+1+(HD)&dashboard=driedaagse-de-panne&id=VZuIwv_e1pw&yr=2013) (Dutch) courtesy of Steephill.tv
Nice win, by the thinnest of margins. Sagan is definitely fun to watch.
Anyone know who is coaching/mentoring him?
Formulasaab
03-26-2013, 02:06 PM
I like the guy. Its nice to see some more personality in the peleton. So many of them make it look too much like a job for my liking.
FlashUNC
03-26-2013, 02:15 PM
Its insulting to our Lord God Eddy Merckx to compare Sagan to him.
There was a time when we thought Evgeni Berzin or VDB were the next big things too.
The kid has a nice kick and can go uphill a little, but let's not even start that conversation until he wins every jersey in a single Tour.
bluesea
03-26-2013, 02:23 PM
Only an Elvis man can be the Cannibal!
moose8
03-26-2013, 02:32 PM
This photo alone makes me like him: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/sagan-new-leader-of-worldtour/258378
eBAUMANN
03-26-2013, 02:32 PM
I like the guy. Its nice to see some more personality in the peleton. So many of them make it look too much like a job for my liking.
2nd'd! :banana:
rwsaunders
03-26-2013, 03:46 PM
Dave....when he reaches his 524th race victory, maybe Eddy will be concerned.:cool:
he can't win a grand tour.
ultraman6970
03-26-2013, 04:46 PM
He is young and with the team at his disposal, he is climbing more this year too.. so who knows what will happen in the big tours with him from now on, they have a tour guy but clearly the #2 is sagan because darn basso clearly is not going in the upper part of his performance curve no more since last year.
Elefantino
03-26-2013, 04:59 PM
he can't win a grand tour.
That's what everyone said about Armstrong. :eek:
gavingould
03-26-2013, 05:02 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/3eb686d9f14da7dbb3e29b912f48674b/tumblr_mka132ZS1G1rqrqs1o1_400.gif
MattTuck
03-26-2013, 05:04 PM
That's what everyone said about Armstrong. :eek:
But when he lost weight during chemo, his body composition changed and his watts per kg went off the charts. :banana:
reggiebaseball
03-26-2013, 05:07 PM
he makes races exciting with his presence.
every race he enters he is trying to win, and he has a legitimate shot 85% of the time.
I never see him giving up or dogging it.
He pops wheelies and does burn outs in victory lane.
He is only 23!
Elefantino
03-26-2013, 05:25 PM
I am more impressed today with Oscar Gatto.
No long sleeves.
No long pants.
No ear warmers.
Hard, hard man.
gasman
03-26-2013, 09:06 PM
I am more impressed today with Oscar Gatto.
No long sleeves.
No long pants.
No ear warmers.
Hard, hard man.
Hard man with no brain.
mcteague
03-27-2013, 05:18 AM
But when he lost weight during chemo, his body composition changed and his watts per kg went off the charts. :banana:
Not this load of bollocks again. Hasn't this been debunked enough already?
Tim
Its insulting to our Lord God Eddy Merckx to compare Sagan to him.
There was a time when we thought Evgeni Berzin or VDB were the next big things too.
The kid has a nice kick and can go uphill a little, but let's not even start that conversation until he wins every jersey in a single Tour.
Amen.
christian
03-27-2013, 05:40 AM
Not this load of bollocks again. Hasn't this been debunked enough already?
TimTim, I think your sarcasm detector needs a touch of EPO, a couple units of blood, a cortisone shot, and a testosterone patch on its balls! ;)
shovelhd
03-27-2013, 05:50 AM
He definitely blocked Demare in the final meters, but the road was curving and he was in a full tilt heads down sprint. Too close to call this time, but if it becomes a habit, it's going to catch up to him.
oldpotatoe
03-27-2013, 06:49 AM
Its insulting to our Lord God Eddy Merckx to compare Sagan to him.
There was a time when we thought Evgeni Berzin or VDB were the next big things too.
The kid has a nice kick and can go uphill a little, but let's not even start that conversation until he wins every jersey in a single Tour.
Agree, let's wait until he wins a grand tour, just one, before we say he's another, 'new Eddy Merckx'.
Nice kid, hope he's clean.
thegunner
03-27-2013, 08:43 AM
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/03/news/road/cavendish-sagans-making-us-all-look-like-juniors_279284
he sounds like he has the ambition to win all the jerseys :)
torquer
03-27-2013, 10:02 AM
This photo alone makes me like him: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/photos/sagan-new-leader-of-worldtour/258378
A pro actually having fun on the bike! No wonder he's gettin' all the love. (Even Cav's.)
mike p
03-27-2013, 10:45 AM
X 10.....he could be incredible, but he's got a loooong way before you can compare him to Merckx!
Mike
Agree, let's wait until he wins a grand tour, just one, before we say he's another, 'new Eddy Merckx'.
Nice kid, hope he's clean.
BumbleBeeDave
03-27-2013, 11:21 AM
Dave....when he reaches his 524th race victory, maybe Eddy will be concerned.:cool:
. . . and you all fell for my bait, so it's all good! :banana:
BBD
sevencyclist
03-27-2013, 12:15 PM
Its insulting to our Lord God Eddy Merckx to compare Sagan to him.
There was a time when we thought Evgeni Berzin or VDB were the next big things too.
The kid has a nice kick and can go uphill a little, but let's not even start that conversation until he wins every jersey in a single Tour.
No comparison at all at present with his young career. Time will tell.
However, he got his "Terminator" nickname not from road cycling, but from destroying mountainbikes due to his power output on MTB. So I don't think having the nickname implies he is equal of Merckx.
gavingould
03-27-2013, 12:24 PM
at least give the kid a few years and see if he pans out before comparing to Merckx... he's got a lot of weapons at his disposal (bike handling, raw power) but seeing if he can get tactics and positioning down will be the true test over the next couple seasons. he is fun to watch.
FlashUNC
03-27-2013, 12:31 PM
No comparison at all at present with his young career. Time will tell.
However, he got his "Terminator" nickname not from road cycling, but from destroying mountainbikes due to his power output on MTB. So I don't think having the nickname implies he is equal of Merckx.
I'm fine with calling him the Terminator. Or the Tourminator. Or whatever name the press decides for this week.
But there's only one Cannibal.
tiretrax
03-27-2013, 12:47 PM
He's got a lot to prove be compared to Merckx - dominate the one day classics and minor stage races, some grand tours (at least two in a season), time trials, winning on mountain stages and on long, lone breakaways. He did impress at the ToC last year, but I want to see him do it consistently and in bigger races before I elevate him to Merckx status. That said, he probably has more potential than anyone that comes to mind.
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