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AngryScientist
02-25-2013, 06:42 AM
interested to see your bikes set-up for light, credit-card touring. short weekend trips, hotel-to-hotel.

post those pics...

christian
02-25-2013, 08:07 AM
Imagine a Colnago Extreme Power and overstuffed jersey pockets.

Or imagine a Colnago Extreme Power with a Bagman rack and a green Carradice Nelson.

:)

merckx
02-25-2013, 08:20 AM
Choose your weapon.

rugbysecondrow
02-25-2013, 08:26 AM
My Bedford Sport Tourer...the best bike I have owned. Beware, this bike squashed my bike lust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjMzwUjy6gU

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp217/phpeter/Bedford%20Sport%20Tourer/IMG_1832.jpg

Bedfords mating in the wild...

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp217/phpeter/Bedford%20Sport%20Tourer/IMG_2053.jpg

rjfr
02-25-2013, 10:17 AM
Haven't taken it on a credit card camping trip, but will in a few months. Doing just fine so far on the winter club rides.

Ellis rando.

http://forums.thepaceline.net//showthread.php?t=122819

harryschwartzma
02-25-2013, 11:01 AM
http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/d97308585ea111e2bb3522000a1fb076_7.jpg

dave thompson
02-25-2013, 11:14 AM
Purpose built for fast day trips or credit card tours. Carries front Ortleib handlebar bag and Back Rollers perfectly.

http://imageshack.us/a/img97/8032/milhollandfinalbuild.jpg

Bradford
02-25-2013, 11:31 AM
I have two.

My half-bike light touring set up is my regular loaded touring bike, just with front panniers only and a rack trunk (no rear panniers). I'll run my heavy wheels (White Industry hubs and Dyad rims, 36 & 40 spokes), but skinier tires (700x32 vs. 700 x 37 for a full load).

Even when I get a sport tourer, the next bike I'll buy, I will do credit card tours on the full touring bike. (I plan on using the sport tourer for rack trunk only rides).

I also use the same set up for credit-card/supported touring on the tandem, front panniers and a rack trunk.

KidWok
02-25-2013, 12:00 PM
My do-everything setup started out life as a Soma Double Cross Disc. I had the canti-brake braze on's on top tube and seat stay ground off when it was new and then took the frameset plus some velo-orange fenders in for two coats of powder (blue with retroreflective sparking clearcoat). The large trunk bag was custom made by my buddy at Swift Industries. I use this for overnights (not that I get to do much of that anymore), commuting (okay...not doing this much anymore either), and pulling my boys around. I'm running a 48/34 x 11-36 10 spd drivetrain to get up big hills with lots of weight in tow. The hi-viz fuzzy dice gets noticed!

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527017_4232096047295_1240426491_n.jpg

Tai

sc53
02-25-2013, 12:00 PM
I believe I recognize the GAP trail in Rugby's last pic, the view from the Mason Dixon line down to Frostburg! I saw that view in a light rain.

harryschwartzma
02-25-2013, 12:03 PM
Some really nice bikes in here! Keep em coming!

AngryScientist
02-25-2013, 12:16 PM
My do-everything setup started out life as a Soma Double Cross Disc. I had the canti-brake braze on's on top tube and seat stay ground off when it was new and then took the frameset plus some velo-orange fenders in for two coats of powder (blue with retroreflective sparking clearcoat). The large trunk bag was custom made by my buddy at Swift Industries. I use this for overnights (not that I get to do much of that anymore), commuting (okay...not doing this much anymore either), and pulling my boys around. I'm running a 48/34 x 11-36 10 spd drivetrain to get up big hills with lots of weight in tow. The hi-viz fuzzy dice gets noticed!

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527017_4232096047295_1240426491_n.jpg

Tai

Tai,

How are you supporting that rear bag?

rccardr
02-25-2013, 12:17 PM
'Luminum!

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy254/rccardr/84%20Cannondale%20ST%2023%20blue%209%20spd%20STI/83CannondaleSTblue9spSTIrightsideV2.jpg

rugbysecondrow
02-25-2013, 12:46 PM
I believe I recognize the GAP trail in Rugby's last pic, the view from the Mason Dixon line down to Frostburg! I saw that view in a light rain.

Yep, I am hoping to do the ride again this year...I need to start thinking about it.

I really enjoyed that trip.

I am thinking about a Blue Ridge Parkway trip...I need to start putting more thought into that too. :)

sc53
02-25-2013, 12:52 PM
For a GAP repeat this summer--be advised that if you want to continue on the C&O Towpath at all, the route is blocked at the Paw Paw Tunnel by a big rockslide! It's going to take months to clean up. You can get through, but only by pushing your bike up a steep and rocky trail bypass.

KidWok
02-25-2013, 12:57 PM
Tai,

How are you supporting that rear bag?

Heya AngryScientist...

The bag is held up with a Carradice Bagman Expedition QR rack. I had three of these bags made for the ride. You can see close-ups of the bag and racks in the classified ad (http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=124043) for the last set. The big trunk bag is big enough to hold my laptop, a change of clothes, and a pair of Tom's shoes.

Tai

plugkev
02-25-2013, 01:15 PM
This but with the bagman support and large carradice saddle bag that are currently on my commuter.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8456532693_af3ecafbe3_c.jpg

dawgie
02-25-2013, 01:58 PM
This Waterford RST-22 is my current favorite bike for light touring and commuting. I picked up the frame and fork on this forum and built it up with parts from another bike. The size and geometry are perfect for me, and it's the nicest riding bike I have ever owned.

The Waterford replaced my Bob Jackson World Tour, which I have since converted to more of a loaded touring bike with sturdier wheels and tires. The BJ is better for carrying heavy loads or riding on unpaved paths, and I also use it for commuting when I have a lot of gear to carry or just feel like riding a different bike.

jimmythefly
02-25-2013, 03:00 PM
I've been riding this old Novara Randonee all over the place. I've used various combinations of racks on it, but for light/short overnight adventures (or longer credt-card type adventures), the big rando bag plus frame bag plus seat pack seem to work great. And I can add or subtract bags as required without fussing a bunch with adding or removing racks.

The bike:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5221/5666451566_488e9f8d83_b.jpg

With my rando bag. Rear rack has since been removed.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/7360558460_2c962026e5_b.jpg

Loaded for bear (before I owned the rando bag). The front load looks super-bulky in this pic, but it's because of stuff like box wine, a giant bag of kettle corn, and a box of donuts that I grabbed at the last grocery store 2 miles before the campsite.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5066/5678916272_f6822065c8_b.jpg

AngryScientist
02-25-2013, 03:05 PM
there is some really nice stuff in this thread. giving me some good ideas! keep them coming folks.

i love that novara. seems like a perfect purpose built bike.

BobbyJones
02-25-2013, 04:30 PM
Here's "fully loaded" which is lightweight by most touring standards.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2684/5810403485_c313ea1265_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25622586@N00/5810403485/)
soma smoothie es (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25622586@N00/5810403485/) by CL7070 (http://www.flickr.com/people/25622586@N00/), on Flickr



and "ultra light" which is a work in progress. (Just haven't taken the front rack off.) Going to give the Relavate Pika and Harness a try next. The Carradice works, but needs a tad more room and a bit less weight.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8513/8508664958_0939483751_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25622586@N00/8508664958/)
IMG_0928 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25622586@N00/8508664958/) by CL7070 (http://www.flickr.com/people/25622586@N00/), on Flickr

Peter P.
02-25-2013, 05:11 PM
My commuter, light tourer, errand boy, foul weather bike. I rode it today because I expected to finish near dark, where the generator light pays for itself. I don't mind festooning this bike with reflective tape. For loaded duties, I add a pair of small rear panniers.

I just love the way this bike steers-it's my favorite. It's not as caffeinated as a racing bike but I wouldn't mind a racing bike that handled like this.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3253/3028727548_7581198f31_z.jpg?zz=1

gregj
02-25-2013, 05:15 PM
http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/d97308585ea111e2bb3522000a1fb076_7.jpg

This bike keeps me awake at night.

jeremiah
02-25-2013, 06:36 PM
Made it from Seattle to Boston on this rig last year. Only stayed in a hotel a handful of times. I managed to pack very light.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SuWQPXSlL08/UKfOLu12sEI/AAAAAAAAQsQ/onrk6Z0JsVo/s717/DSC_0117.JPG

Orrery
02-25-2013, 07:07 PM
Built up on a grad student's budget -- use it for commuting. Dreaming of doing some overnight camping this summer.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/7979438568_a4d8f56aec_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69650439@N03/7979438568/)

plugkev
02-25-2013, 07:20 PM
On the commuter ... also Jeremiah amazing pic and great looking bike above!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8529/8507936837_6e6b7c7b10_c.jpg

J.Greene
02-25-2013, 07:49 PM
I've turned into a one bike kind of guy, well recently i built myself another. This is my cross bike, UCI approved. It's also my commuting bike, my training bike, my grocery bike, and my camping bike.

J.Greene
02-25-2013, 07:50 PM
This is the camping setup.

mike p
02-25-2013, 07:55 PM
Tai, love that bike, you posted it before and I meant to say back then that it looks great! Is that a sloper? Looks like a lot of seat post showing for a touring bike? What do you run for tires? How big a tire can you run with the fenders?

Mike

My do-everything setup started out life as a Soma Double Cross Disc. I had the canti-brake braze on's on top tube and seat stay ground off when it was new and then took the frameset plus some velo-orange fenders in for two coats of powder (blue with retroreflective sparking clearcoat). The large trunk bag was custom made by my buddy at Swift Industries. I use this for overnights (not that I get to do much of that anymore), commuting (okay...not doing this much anymore either), and pulling my boys around. I'm running a 48/34 x 11-36 10 spd drivetrain to get up big hills with lots of weight in tow. The hi-viz fuzzy dice gets noticed!

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527017_4232096047295_1240426491_n.jpg

Tai

Peter B
02-25-2013, 08:52 PM
This one's seen a lot of commute/brevet/light touring duty.

fourflys
02-25-2013, 08:56 PM
Here is what I plan to use as my light touring set-up... I have a nice Riv seat bag as well that I can use if I need a bit more room...

http://threeflys.smugmug.com/Cycling/Riding-in-Kodiak/i-Wnmjv58/0/L/IMG_2368-L.jpg

oldpotatoe
02-26-2013, 07:32 AM
Imagine a Colnago Extreme Power and overstuffed jersey pockets.


:)

'Light touring'? Hotel to hotel, one night overnight? Number 1 above. No need for a bunch of stuff.

Some of the pix look like a week of unsupported touring rather than 'light touring'. I have seen some on Ride the Rockies, highly supported, stuff goes to each stop by truck and still riders with an extra 20 pounds strapped to their bike.

http://vimeo.com/52880703

garysol1
02-26-2013, 07:33 AM
Here is my light tourer i action in the Florida Keys. Surly Cross Check.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/garysol1/February%202013%20Key%20West%20ride/IMG_2855_zpsa4ee45db.jpg

rugbysecondrow
02-26-2013, 08:15 AM
'Light touring'? Hotel to hotel, one night overnight? Number 1 above. No need for a bunch of stuff.

Some of the pix look like a week of unsupported touring rather than 'light touring'. I have seen some on Ride the Rockies, highly supported, stuff goes to each stop by truck and still riders with an extra 20 pounds strapped to their bike.

http://vimeo.com/52880703

I never said I was good at light touring...but that isn't the bikes fault, it is still a light tourer. :)

I actually forgot until now that the photo from my GAP trip (where my bike was loaded down) was actually a 2 day bike trip but I was also staying the 3 days at my destination, so much of the space wasn't gear but was luggage and weekend wear.

Cheers all.

oldpotatoe
02-26-2013, 08:25 AM
I never said I was good at light touring...but that isn't the bikes fault, it is still a light tourer. :)

I know. When I 'travel' by bike, I'm somewhat of a minimalist. I hate to get home, unpack my jersey pockets and see all sorts of stuff I just carried along, not really needing it.

Moots Tailgator type thing, 5 pounds max..good to go.

weisan
02-26-2013, 09:26 AM
When I ask Paul Taylor to build my bike, I gave him a two-page long detailed description of what i want and the different scenario that I can see it being used. I fully understand the compromise involved in building a Jack-of-all-trade kind of bike, but that's what I want, and that's what i got. :banana:
Besides, it's my bike, i don't wait for someone else to tell me what I can or cannot do with it.

So, one day it was ridden on a short section of Katy Trail as a road bike, literally the next day I re-configured it for a three-day credit-card trip along the same trail except this time I am taking a train all the way to Sedalia and riding back to StL. You can details of this trip here:
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=75865

I am with oldP-pal. Light touring to me means drop the panniers and bulk, travel light. :p
All I did to configure it for the trip is change to my cyclocross wheel set with 32mm] pasela and add the rear rack for my camera bag used to carry one set of off-the-bike cum sleeping attire, extra tubes, rain jacket, multi-tool, toothbrush, wallet - that's all.
I guess if I really want, I can add a front fender, there's enough room catered for it, the rear rack serves double duty as fender ...but I didn't coz I am lazy.
The rest of the stuff i either leave them at home or let my riding partner carry.:eek::hello:

Before
http://alicehui.com/pics/Taylor/img/taylor5.jpg

After
http://alicehui.com/pics/katy/img/2.jpg
http://alicehui.com/pics/katy/img/35.jpg

dawgie
02-26-2013, 11:08 AM
I also have a Salsa Casseroll that I used for light touring and commuting until I recently replaced the frame with a Gunnar Sport. The Casseroll is great for such purposes because it has clearance for larger tires and mounts for fenders and racks. It is also a very nice riding frame.

My Casseroll frame is for sale if anyone is interested. Mine is size 56 with a 56 cm virtual top tube.

rugbysecondrow
02-26-2013, 11:25 AM
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Bradford
02-26-2013, 12:10 PM
'Light touring'? Hotel to hotel, one night overnight? Number 1 above. No need for a bunch of stuff.

Some of the pix look like a week of unsupported touring rather than 'light touring'. I have seen some on Ride the Rockies, highly supported, stuff goes to each stop by truck and still riders with an extra 20 pounds strapped to their bike.

http://vimeo.com/52880703

I guess it depends on what you call light touring. I consider light touring to be touring trips where you don't have to carrry a tent and cooking supplies. You still need clothes, toiletries, foul weather gear, tools, parts etc. So that means two small panniers full of stuff (Heavy touring would be two small and two large panniers).

An example of what I consider a light touring trip I took was from Durango to Salida, which was five days on our own, all hotels.

I wouldn't consider supported rides like Ride the Rockies light touring...those are just a series of day rides strung together. When I did ride the Rockies, I did it with a rack trunk only and used it to store clothes I stripped off during the day.

Serotta_Carbon
02-26-2013, 12:43 PM
A 3 day weekend up the coast from San Diego to Malibu & back....

Serotta_Carbon
02-26-2013, 12:52 PM
For longer trips I built Leslie this one. Not feather weight but compared to my Rock & Road it's like a Meivici...

dd74
02-26-2013, 01:50 PM
A 3 day weekend up the coast from San Diego to Malibu & back....
Ah, so you don't have to have an all-steel frame for a light touring bike so's you can support a bag or two. Mike, what kind of rack is that? I'd like to try something like this with my CdA.

Serotta_Carbon
02-26-2013, 03:12 PM
Ah, so you don't have to have an all-steel frame for a light touring bike so's you can support a bag or two. Mike, what kind of rack is that? I'd like to try something like this with my CdA.

I believe that particular rack was made by Civia and it's clamped to a beefed up carbon post on my bike and a Thomson post on Les's. It's cantilevered out there pretty far so we try to keep the weight to a minimum. For trips like this we usually just have some wind gear and something to change into for dinner etc. (And a toothbrush of course!)

If we're going any heavier, but not "fully loaded", I've got setups that allow us to run our Bruce Gordon racks & panniers on the Meivicis. This is done by using an aftermarket seatpost clamp that has bosses for the top of the rack and custom pivot bosses at the bottom of the seatstay for the bottom of the rack to bolt on to.

Any heavier than that and we use the real touring bikes...

dd74
02-26-2013, 03:20 PM
I believe that particular rack was made by Civia and it's clamped to a beefed up carbon post on my bike and a Thomson post on Les's. It's cantilevered out there pretty far so we try to keep the weight to a minimum. For trips like this we usually just have some wind gear and something to change into for dinner etc. (And a toothbrush of course!)

If we're going any heavier, but not "fully loaded", I've got setups that allow us to run our Bruce Gordon racks & panniers on the Meivicis. This is done by using an aftermarket seatpost clamp that has bosses for the top of the rack and custom pivot bosses at the bottom of the seatstay for the bottom of the rack to bolt on to.

Any heavier than that and we use the real touring bikes...
Interesting. I have a Record carbon seatpost. I'm not sure it could withstand much weight though. Love to see your Bruce Gordon racks and panniers if you can post photos of them.

But a real touring bike. In my case, that'd have to be my old Colnago Super.

gomango
02-26-2013, 05:07 PM
As heavy as I want to go for touring at this point.

My John Hollands.

After doing a lot of motorcycle touring on my heavily loaded Kawasaki Z-1 when I was a kid, that scratch has been thoroughly itched.

Considering a compact on the JH at this point, as I am not getting any younger.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3381/5842157843_fe3db22371_b.jpg


...and I am currently building this early 1990's Walter Croll.

All ultra low-mileage early Campy Athena from a donor bicycle.

Just got her back from paint and threw some parts on loosely for a mock up.

This one will see lots of gravel this summer.

Touring on gravel counts doesn't it? :)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8499525072_655e6d75df_b.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8505/8499526814_5c96c6c30f_b.jpg

David Benson
02-26-2013, 05:54 PM
Ritchey Breakaway, Carradice Camper Longflap on a Brooks Swallow.
I taped a cork to the back of the seatpost which is just enough to keep the bag away from my thighs.
49/33 rings with 13-29.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8462/7978793218_f660a38da5_c.jpg

Pete Mckeon
02-26-2013, 06:14 PM
as well as wine and BMWs:beer:


:banana::banana: Pete

I believe that particular rack was made by Civia and it's clamped to a beefed up carbon post on my bike and a Thomson post on Les's. It's cantilevered out there pretty far so we try to keep the weight to a minimum. For trips like this we usually just have some wind gear and something to change into for dinner etc. (And a toothbrush of course!)

If we're going any heavier, but not "fully loaded", I've got setups that allow us to run our Bruce Gordon racks & panniers on the Meivicis. This is done by using an aftermarket seatpost clamp that has bosses for the top of the rack and custom pivot bosses at the bottom of the seatstay for the bottom of the rack to bolt on to.

Any heavier than that and we use the real touring bikes...

joosttx
02-26-2013, 09:47 PM
This was my longer brevet setup...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8517/8511172635_31273730d0_z.jpg

Acorns bags
DiNotte lights
Frame pump

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5063/5550530172_eddd2f2023_z.jpg

with fenders

rain dogs
02-26-2013, 10:55 PM
http://cimacoppirides.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/bergamo-newspaper720.jpg?w=470

I did 2866km in 16 days including the first 10 stages of the Giro in front of the peloton set up as in the photo. All my stuff (including my tools, shorts I'm wearing in the photo etc.) fit in the black "bottle" on the seat tube cage. The Italians thought I was so crazy (err... stupid) they wrote about my trip in the Bergamo paper. The highlight was Milan>Monaco including the entire Milan-San Remo in a day. I wish i could spend my whole life being so reckless (although it was totally safe, really). If you want lightweight, you really only need your tools, a good pillow to be offered and merino wool. Another pic of the bike below.

http://cimacoppirides.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/belfort.jpg?w=470

The next year i went super soft and brought two black tool tubes... that was lux. You can see the second black storage tube under the seat. From 750ml to 1500ml is like going from a suitcase of options to a walk-in-closet. Actually what is craziest of everything is that I somehow, someway found that neon green merino wool in all my searching.

http://cimacoppirides.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/envalira.jpg?w=470

AngryScientist
02-27-2013, 06:12 AM
rain dogs, that's pretty epic lightweight travel, to the max man. just curious, what did you wear on your feet off the bike?

the weather obviously plays a critical factor, but i think for few night trips where i would stay in a hotel, the minimum would be:

-toothbrush
-off the bike pants (or shorts)
-shirt
-footwear

sashae
02-27-2013, 06:58 AM
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3381/5842157843_fe3db22371_b.jpg


Oof. I miss that bike, looks gorgeous. Just found out that John had started taking orders again, too...

Mine, currently getting refurb'd at Vanilla:

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6073/6130377274_0d59241677_b.jpg

andywills
02-27-2013, 08:22 AM
Kidwok -- what do you think of the double cross for light touring / commuting? How flexy is it? I've been thinking about a double cross disc for that exact purpose...current color is hideous, though.

Garysol -- how are the front panniers attached on your bike? I don't see any front rack.

rain dogs
02-27-2013, 10:57 AM
rain dogs, that's pretty epic lightweight travel, to the max man. just curious, what did you wear on your feet off the bike?

the weather obviously plays a critical factor, but i think for few night trips where i would stay in a hotel, the minimum would be:

-toothbrush
-off the bike pants (or shorts)
-shirt
-footwear

I've come from a background of doing ultralight backbacking, weighing, editing and/or making everything. The majority of what I had is tools... I'm probably obsessive about that even having a crank puller, cassette removal etc.

For feet off the bike... flip-flops once and folded cloth shoes ("miami vice" like) another time they both fit flat in jersey pockets and these styles were no thicker than 1" put together.

This is certainly summer traveling, but I got rained on a lot. With wool you just ride it out unless it's a downpour. For that I made a welded seams jacket and booties out of my clothing patterns and a strong plastic. The jacket weighed 25grams and folded to the size of a credit card, and sure... it doesn't breath, but really neither does gore-tex for cycling. I only wore it when it was super hard rain. I kept it tucked under the thigh of my cycling shorts for easy access.

garysol1
02-27-2013, 06:41 PM
Garysol -- how are the front panniers attached on your bike? I don't see any front rack.

Andy... I use a Tubus Duo rack. It bolts to the mid mounts on the inside and outside of the Surly CC fork. Here is a picture that shows the rack.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/garysol1/IMG_2619-1.jpg

AngryScientist
02-27-2013, 06:46 PM
some really exciting and fun stuff in this thread.

makes me want to hit the road!

andywills
02-27-2013, 07:06 PM
Nice--thanks. I will have to look for it when I build my light tourer. Low profile and looks like the panniers are nice and low too.

garysol1
02-27-2013, 07:09 PM
Nice--thanks. I will have to look for it when I build my light tourer. Low profile and looks like the panniers are nice and low too.

Very solid, sturdy and well made but remember that the forks must have inside and outside mid fork mounts for them to work.

jbay
02-27-2013, 10:20 PM
These show two people's worth of gear for cold, wet mountain weather, along with luxuries like a laptop and necessities like a nice camera and a couple of lenses. :rolleyes:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q9rKDLf4sms/UIK-ZstKtcI/AAAAAAAAFnw/prcLRP1AbBg/s1784/DSC03298.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wn6yhkdmHGQ/US7adjfgcZI/AAAAAAAAGLQ/VLN8AmOwvCI/s1784/DSC01068.jpg

KidWok
02-27-2013, 10:50 PM
Kidwok -- what do you think of the double cross for light touring / commuting? How flexy is it? I've been thinking about a double cross disc for that exact purpose...current color is hideous, though.

Andy...I looked through a bunch of geometry tables and figured the double cross was the closest to what I was looking for...I only would have wanted a lower BB. I don't think there's any noticeable flex. I'm about 200 lbs. One thing to note is that the chain stay is relatively short. I was first running a shimano r700 compact crank with outboard bearings, but the switched to a sugino so that I could run a slightly wider bb spindle. Not that I would normally use it that way, but cross chaining with the 34 x 11 causes a bit of ghost shifting when running a 135 mm rear hub.

Powder coating is cheap...for $200, you can have whatever color you want. Take some metal fenders and/or a rack in at the same time and it will look even better.

Tai

gomango
02-28-2013, 04:52 AM
"Oof. I miss that bike, looks gorgeous. Just found out that John had started taking orders again, too... " sashae


Thanks !!

I've loved this bike since I bought the frameset from you.

I go through a lot of bicycles, but this one is here for the long haul.

Fits perfectly, rides great.

Diggin' your Vanilla big time btw.

We are dangerously close size wise, so you usually could have a fast offload of your framesets should the need arise. :)

andywills
03-01-2013, 01:23 PM
Yeah, that's my feeling...Surly Cross Check or Soma Double Cross or Gunnar Fastlane. I really want the Fast Lane, but it's hard to beat surly or soma on price.

51mondays
03-18-2013, 05:57 PM
http://ultralightcycling.blogspot.com.au/
i've really enjoyed all of Iik's blog posts. he's hilarious. an avid light tourer.
i've used carradice a lot - lovely simple product.....the rack is a bit heavy though. Their new ones have a strut that goes to the seat stay which is probably a good idea.

51mondays
03-18-2013, 05:58 PM
sweeeeeet ride


This was my longer brevet setup...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8517/8511172635_31273730d0_z.jpg

Acorns bags
DiNotte lights
Frame pump

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5063/5550530172_eddd2f2023_z.jpg

with fenders

EvanTA
04-04-2013, 08:12 AM
I'm brainstorming for my own needs, would love to see if anyone has modded their bag or rack. I have a bag I love that wasn't made for cycling, so I'm toying with the idea of adding mounts to it, or welding something like a cage to an existing carradice rack. wouldn't that be tight, just slide the bag in the rack, little bungee cord action to act as a lid? maybe even get some waterproof material to slide into the cage that would protect the bag?

i know there are some proud DIY folks on here, let's showcase some sweet customizations. throw many pics on it

Pete Mckeon
04-04-2013, 09:14 AM
A 3 day weekend up the coast from San Diego to Malibu & back....

On the 18th a group of us will be going to PASO ROBLES and CAMBRIA, AND wineries (Denner is one of my favorite tastes. ) You are more than welcome to partake with the festivities.:banana:

JAGI410
04-04-2013, 09:51 AM
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a434/JAGI410/39AE20DC-ED2D-4801-A7EC-BA6AB2790F9F-6003-000008B5A86F6A87_zps772a3392.jpg

Debating on a 650B conversion, but for now this qualifies as my credit card tourer.

gomango
04-04-2013, 04:03 PM
http://i1035.photobucket.com/albums/a434/JAGI410/39AE20DC-ED2D-4801-A7EC-BA6AB2790F9F-6003-000008B5A86F6A87_zps772a3392.jpg

Debating on a 650B conversion, but for now this qualifies as my credit card tourer.

That's a great looking bicycle.

Nice work!

Ken Robb
04-04-2013, 05:06 PM
On the 18th a group of us will be going to PASO ROBLES and CAMBRIA, AND wineries (Denner is one of my favorite tastes. ) You are more than welcome to partake with the festivities.:banana:

See if you can get into Brochelle Winery. At least try some of their fruit-bomb monster Zinfandels. Les and I rented a house in Cambria last summer and had three great dinners at Madeline's on Main Street. Good food and a dandy wine list featuring mostly local stuff. Go to their website for a coupon worth 50% off most bottles of wine.

You are going to have FUN!

Puget Pounder
04-04-2013, 05:27 PM
Gunnar Sport!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zROnc2HV3Xg/UUPUMlOxoaI/AAAAAAAACpc/zFw_NXUf1O0/w801-h711-p-o/IMG600.jpg

Waldo
04-04-2013, 05:28 PM
nm