Campagnolo 80th anniversary group

[oldpotatoe]

This is NOT a sales call, advertising, not even gonna sell them BUT

What does the forum say?

Based on a SR mechanical group, matt black with appropriate logos. Leather bound display box, very similar to the 50th group. No pix yet.

Not sure how many are going to be made

About $4500 retail. 8 piece group

Ehhhh? Good, bad, indifferent?

[54ny77]

make it silver, and they will come.

[FlashUNC]

Blog mentions they'd be making 2,013 groups, but who knows if that's accurate.

How could they make it any sexier than the Record/Super Record stuff out now?

[Lovetoclimb]

While 80 years is amazing and reinforces my adoration for Campagnolos staying power, it seems like a strange year to make an anniversary group for. I thought the customary 25, 50, 75, 100 would be more normal.

[pdmtong]

This is NOT a sales call, advertising, not even gonna sell them BUT

What does the forum say?

Based on a SR mechanical group, matt black with appropriate logos. Leather bound display box, very similar to the 50th group. No pix yet.

Not sure how many are going to be made

About $4500 retail. 8 piece group

Ehhhh? Good, bad, indifferent?

indifferent...once these things get mounted and used, the premium/value drops immediately. so the only value retained is when unused still in a box. life is too short to be staring at parts when you should be using the parts.

[AngryScientist]

indifferent...once these things get mounted and used, the premium/value drops immediately. so the only value retained is when unused still in a box. life is too short to be staring at parts when you should be using the parts.

absolutely agree.

[rides2slow]

Love Campy. Don't care about an anniversary group.

[dd74]

Indifferent. Now can I borrow $4500 from one of you guys? ;)

[oldpotatoe]

Indifferent. Now can I borrow $4500 from one of you guys? ;)

Tee heee, probably gonna get one for myself. Have a 50th, and the smart 'collectors' know to not mount/use this if you want to retail the value.

[jr59]

Tee heee, probably gonna get one for myself. Have a 50th, and the smart 'collectors' know to not mount/use this if you want to retail the value.

That's just what you need, more Campy stuff! :banana:

[Nags&Ducs]

I'm with pdmtong and others...

I wouldn't buy it. Not to use, not to stare at, not to caress, not to display...

I do not like green eggs and...er anniversary hams....

[Tony T]

Ehhhh? Good, bad, indifferent?

Put me on the wait list for the 100 year anniversary group.

[oldpotatoe]

That's just what you need, more Campy stuff! :banana:

And your point being???

[fuzzalow]

Anniversary groups? Like many here have posted, I too am not seduced.

Somehow make it an all silver group and I'd be interested. The alloy parts are easy, and the carbon fiber crank could be done in a silver colored matrix. Bianchi release a silver colored CF bike a few years back.

http://www.bikelandusa.com/images/bianchi/06_luna_sm.jpg

[dd74]

Tee heee, probably gonna get one for myself. Have a 50th, and the smart 'collectors' know to not mount/use this if you want to retail the value.
Yeah, I know collectors, but their medium is art and photography. For me, purchasing something that has a use beyond just being looked at, but not doing anything with it, makes no sense. If it has a function, put it to use.

[jr59]

And your point being???

<chuckle>

I have something for you if I get to see you this weekend!

Oh yes, my point. The top of my head...of course!

[thirdgenbird]

Matte black SR mechanical?

If I were swimming in disposable income, I would buy two sets. One for a stainless steel tommasini and another for display in the case.


(I'm not swimming in disposable income)

[54ny77]

perspective on collecting bike parts:

in 1983, you could have purchased either a campy 50th anniversary group for what, a thousand bucks? or you could have purchase a split adjusted ~thousand shares of ge.

today you could have about 4-5 grand worth of campy parts (or a little higher if in superb shape). or 25 grand worth of ge.

:bike:

[mkbk]

Fun question!.

I am not indifferent. If I bought any anniversary group I would ride it. Then again, I ride Japanese, so what do I know?

[tiretrax]

Shop expense - hang it on the wall. Next to the Merckx photograph. Let all who cross your threshold know what are the house preferences (as if they didn't already).

[binxnyrwarrsoul]

Anniversary groups? Like many here have posted, I too am not seduced.

Somehow make it an all silver group and I'd be interested. The alloy parts are easy, and the carbon fiber crank could be done in a silver colored matrix. Bianchi release a silver colored CF bike a few years back.

http://www.bikelandusa.com/images/bianchi/06_luna_sm.jpg

L'una, sweet bike.

[Pete Mckeon]

but as an "Investment" :confused::confused: I have a bridge to sell you:banana:

[oldpotatoe]

perspective on collecting bike parts:

in 1983, you could have purchased either a campy 50th anniversary group for what, a thousand bucks? or you could have purchase a split adjusted ~thousand shares of ge.

today you could have about 4-5 grand worth of campy parts (or a little higher if in superb shape). or 25 grand worth of ge.

:bike:

$679

You could have invested in Bike.com or MVP.com, or Fogdog or....also...and have $zero$

[Llewellyn]

Why 80th? It's not a typical anniversary to celebrate as some others have mentioned. Maybe Campy don't think they'll be around to celebrate their 100th? :eek: ;)

But it seems a shame to have something like this just for hanging on a wall, but I appreciate that once you ride it, the value plummets quicker than Cadel Evans descending on the Stelvio.

And it would absolutely have to be silver for me to be interested in it.

[pbarry]

Perfect for Leica/bike collectors who never use their precious gear. Good for Campy's bottom line tho.

[dancinkozmo]

campag has jumped the shark... they should reissue nuovo record.
thats the last groupset they made that wasnt outperformed by the competition

[54ny77]

I'm waiting for the SRAM Red 9th year anniversary group. It'll be approximately 14% better overall than the immediately preceding year's performance.

[M-7]

+1 for a silver édition !

[Rueda Tropical]

and waiting
at the door,
the bicycle,
stilled,
because
only moving
does it have a soul

from a Neruda poem (Oda a la bicicleta (http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/oda-a-la-bicicleta-pablo-neruda/)) Emphasis is mine.

Cycling taxidermy. A Campy group not in use on a bike is a sin against nature :no:

[RedRider]

I'm waiting for the SRAM Red 9th year anniversary group. It'll be approximately 14% better overall than the immediately preceding year's performance.

Sram, that's funny and Mavic missed celebrating the 20th Anniversary edition of the Zap groupo...

The photos of the 80th Anniversary edition are impressive. Packaged in a display box as Campy always does it will surely be sold out. Red 80th logos on black matte finish. Offered with either Bora or Bullet wheels with special graphics. No pricing yet...

[thirdgenbird]

Pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glorycycles/8492249091/in/photostream/

[ctcyclistbob]

perspective on collecting bike parts:

in 1983, you could have purchased either a campy 50th anniversary group for what, a thousand bucks? or you could have purchase a split adjusted ~thousand shares of ge.

today you could have about 4-5 grand worth of campy parts (or a little higher if in superb shape). or 25 grand worth of ge.

:bike:

$679

You could have invested in Bike.com or MVP.com, or Fogdog or....also...and have $zero$

So, the question is:

Which stock bought today will be worth 25 times in 30 years? Ideas?

[Tony T]

in 1983, you could have purchased either a campy 50th anniversary group for what, a thousand bucks? or you could have purchase a split adjusted ~thousand shares of ge. today you could have about 4-5 grand worth of campy parts (or a little higher if in superb shape). or 25 grand worth of ge.

....or you could have purchased $1,000 of Xerox in 1983, and today you would have.....$1,000.

[Rueda Tropical]

....or you could have purchased $1,000 of Xerox in 1983, and today you would have.....$1,000.

Or you could have purchased some Lehman Brothers or Enron and today you have zero! Buy that Campy group! It will never be worth zero!

[BumbleBeeDave]

While 80 years is amazing and reinforces my adoration for Campagnolos staying power, it seems like a strange year to make an anniversary group for. I thought the customary 25, 50, 75, 100 would be more normal.

. . . from selling these things. THAT is why they are making it. :rolleyes:

BBD

[54ny77]

I'd go with GE. Maybe not 25x, but a solid mid-high single digit annualized performer, plus dividends, yeah I'll take that all day long.

That is, unless some rogue group at GE Cap. blows up the parent, a la AIGFP taking down the parent co. and almost the entire economy with it.

From jet engines to nuclear power plants to medical equipment to my washer & dryer, they bring good things to life.

:)

So, the question is:

Which stock bought today will be worth 25 times in 30 years? Ideas?

[thwart]

This thread is nothin' without pichers...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8097/8492249091_e37073263d_o.jpg

[rounder]

This is NOT a sales call, advertising, not even gonna sell them BUT

What does the forum say?

Based on a SR mechanical group, matt black with appropriate logos. Leather bound display box, very similar to the 50th group. No pix yet.

Not sure how many are going to be made

About $4500 retail. 8 piece group

Ehhhh? Good, bad, indifferent?

If it were me, I would buy it because I believe in Campy and subscribe to their beliefs. I would not care how much it would be worth in 10 - 20 years.

[uncrx2003]

Why would anyone pay $4500 for this? No wonder it's so hard to grow cycling popularity. Everything costs way too much.

[Grant McLean]

make it silver, and they will come.

http://www.bike24.com/i/p/0/8/17380_00_d.jpg

[killerrabbit]

Looks sweet. But with that price? :eek:

[dd74]

Wait a minute. Did I read that the groupset comes with Bullet or Bora wheels for $4500? Because if that's the case, the cheapest I've seen for regular Mechanical Super Record is $2550 and Bora Ultra Two $2550. That's $5100. And this Anniversary Group costs $4500?

Please tell me both my reading comprehension and math skills are on the brain-dead level, because if not...:eek:

[54ny77]

yeah i'm still debating athena silver 11 on an upcoming build, believe me.

problem is i've got all but 1 part now of pristine used 7800 stuff (i've been collecting for months, little by little).

my issue is spare parts. for shimano i have plenty, including wheels, to last me for a long time.
for campy, i got nuttin'. would need new wheels too.

last campy i had was back when madonna was still like a virgin, friction shifting for the very first time...

http://www.bike24.com/i/p/0/8/17380_00_d.jpg

[choke]

I am a huge Campy fan and wouldn't even consider any other components for a road bike. In fact, the only non-Campy road bike I've ever owned was my very first one and it was Suntour equipped.

But the 80th Gruppo is 'meh'. While I'm never going to spend that number of FRNs for bicycle components, if it was alloy I might at least have some interest. I just can't warm up to carbon bits at all.

[RkyMtn]

The 80th group looks appropriate for an 80th edition. If people buy it, all power to Campy and may they live long and produce great parts for me to ride into the future.

Now, if I were to do a special edition group, then I would do more than just a graphic. I'd cover all the Carbon fiber with a finishing layer of Silver Twill G-10 fabric. I had a knife with a handle finished in this stuff and it looks great and would be a neat way to make carbon fiber components have a silver look!

Maybe on the 85th Anniversary?

[flydhest]

from a Neruda poem (Oda a la bicicleta (http://ruedatropical.com/2009/03/oda-a-la-bicicleta-pablo-neruda/)) Emphasis is mine.

Cycling taxidermy. A Campy group not in use on a bike is a sin against nature :no:

Neruda should have learned to track stand.

[Llewellyn]

That Athena looks classy :)

If I were going to build up a bike with Campy, then that's the gruppo I'd be using :cool:

[carlucci1106]

agree alloy would draw more interest.

And anyone else think they ought to use the traditional cursive font "Campagnolo?" Put in in Gold slightly larger than the 90s stuff to match the width of the crankarm. Put a small "80" up and right, maybe with that ivy framing it. Pay homage to the original logo that put 'em on the map.

The red banner is quite lame. They could have done much better. Looks like a splotch from far away. I'd rather have a regular SR group that actually looks good rather than this ill-designed anniversary group.

[Black Dog]

Just using different graphics and putting it in a box is not a special issue. Just about zero thought and effort went into this one. At least previous anniversary groups had some significant cosmetic differences. I will give it an über-meh.

50...
http://www.campyonly.com/images/history/1980s/50th_gruppo/C50_compleet.jpg

Century...
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Campagnolo-C-Record-Century-Group-NOS-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/$(KGrHqR,!hIE8itnQtNcBPJVJuF84!~~60_3.JPG

[oldpotatoe]

If it were me, I would buy it because I believe in Campy and subscribe to their beliefs. I would not care how much it would be worth in 10 - 20 years.

I'm gonna...I feel the same.

[oldpotatoe]

Wait a minute. Did I read that the groupset comes with Bullet or Bora wheels for $4500? Because if that's the case, the cheapest I've seen for regular Mechanical Super Record is $2550 and Bora Ultra Two $2550. That's $5100. And this Anniversary Group costs $4500?

Please tell me both my reading comprehension and math skills are on the brain-dead level, because if not...:eek:

Not with wheels and MO(Mail Order) does not the market make.

[thirdgenbird]

Just using different graphics and putting it in a box is not a special issue. Just about zero thought and effort went into this one. At least previous anniversary groups had some significant cosmetic differences. I will give it an über-meh.

It is a completely different finish. The black has a noticeable muted finish. It may not be as noticeable as your century example, but the amount of change is the same.

I dig the gold script idea. I've been wanting script to return anyway.

[54ny77]

good flikr photos.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glorycycles/sets/72157632817048576/with/8493350772/

yawn. it's like the chevrolet approach to special edition car model: same car, new sticker.

at least the 50th had an entirely unique design & finish, and was beautiful to look at.

[oldpotatoe]

good flikr photos.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glorycycles/sets/72157632817048576/with/8493350772/

yawn. it's like the chevrolet approach to special edition car model: same car, new sticker.

at least the 50th had an entirely unique design & finish, and was beautiful to look at.

Well, the 50th DID have a unique finish but it was just a re-badged SuperRecord group.

[velotel]

Yeah, I know collectors, but their medium is art and photography. For me, purchasing something that has a use beyond just being looked at, but not doing anything with it, makes no sense. If it has a function, put it to use.
You mean like trophy wives?

[54ny77]

i think 50th finish work on crank & rear derail. is well in excess of what this 80th is doing, which is just a different clear coat and a red sticker.

no worries, we're splitting hairs. people either like it, or don't.

i don't. you do.

all's good. ;)

Well, the 50th DID have a unique finish but it was just a re-badged SuperRecord group.

[oldpotatoe]

[QUOTE=54ny77;1298530]i think 50th finish work on crank & rear derail. is well in excess of what this 80th is doing, which is just a different clear coat and a red sticker.

no worries, we're splitting hairs.

I agree with that. I have a 50th group on a Merckx/Molteni MXLeader..hanging up.

But mostly decals..cheaper also. I've seen low number 50th groups(2 digits) in the $10,000 asking range..asking. And they made 15,000 of them.

[Aaron O]

Honestly...Campy 50th doesn't do a whole lot for me and the 80th doesn't either. $2,000 for a box and some cosmetic differences doesn't really do it for me. If I'm spending money on Campy stuff, I'd rather target some of the really odd ball and old parts.

[soulspinner]

....or you could have purchased $1,000 of Xerox in 1983, and today you would have.....$1,000.

Or you could have bought some at 4 and 5/8 and dumped it at 14:)

[oldpotatoe]

Just pulled the trigger..oh well, probably won't be alive for the 100th one.

[thirdgenbird]

Just pulled the trigger..oh well, probably won't be alive for the 100th one.

I don't blame you. Did you get wheels? Bora or bullet?

[oldpotatoe]

I don't blame you. Did you get wheels? Bora or bullet?

God no..I build some Record hubs onto some old Record Pave's or something.

[fatallightning]

BNG. I'm a Campy afficianado, but, ugh. Twice the cost for?

[Black Dog]

Just pulled the trigger..oh well, probably won't be alive for the 100th one.

You just drank the Tulio-Aid. ;) Please send us some pics once you get it on a bike.

[pdmtong]

Just pulled the trigger..oh well, probably won't be alive for the 100th one.

good for you OP.

I realize my meh, is mainly coming from a "have-not" place. no spare frn's for parts I cant be riding. this has to be viewed like artwork...you buy it because you like it, that's it. congratulations.

[Aaron O]

good for you OP.

I realize my meh, is mainly coming from a "have-not" place. no spare frn's for parts I cant be riding. this has to be viewed like artwork...you buy it because you like it, that's it. congratulations.

I'm sure that's driving part of my disdain...it's easier to bad mouth what I can't afford.

[weaponsgrade]

Just pulled the trigger..oh well, probably won't be alive for the 100th one.

nice. What are your build plans? (if any)

[OperaLover]

Yessir! Sour grapes. We are all jealous of OldPotatoe. If I had the coin I would buy it and put it on a beautiful lugged Tomasini Sintesi, like they plan to show at NAHB.

[thirdgenbird]

God no..I build some Record hubs onto some old Record Pave's or something.

I approve

Yessir! Sour grapes. We are all jealous of OldPotatoe. If I had the coin I would buy it and put it on a beautiful lugged Tomasini Sintesi, like they plan to show at NAHB.

Again, I approve.

[pbarry]

They nailed it with the 50th. The new commemorative gruppo would be perfect if it had medallions.

[cdn_bacon]

Wheels are gorgeous :eek:

[oldpotatoe]

You just drank the Tulio-Aid. ;) Please send us some pics once you get it on a bike.

Not gonna go on a bike..gonna stay in the case for a while.

[FlashUNC]

The matte finish I like a lot.

But the 80th logo looks like it was done by the intern's kid. Campy realized they didn't need to take the very first suggestion for an anniversary logo, right?

[nighthawk]

This looks real nice to me:

[JonB]

How long until the sticker/decal kits start appearing on eBay? With a little model-airplane building experience, your 2009 Super Record can look exactly like the 80th anniversary groupset!

[jpw]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/campagnolo-unveils-80th-anniversary-collection

I don't like boxed up ideas like this so much.

[572cv]

Just pulled the trigger..oh well, probably won't be alive for the 100th one.

Most of us who were riding Campagnolo when they offered their 50th won't be around for the 100th, at least not on a bike. Maybe that's part of the logic of offering the 80th! Anyone with the inclination to go for it, should, I say. Probably a better value than collecting USPS stamps, these days.

[Rueda Tropical]

I guess if you had the kind of FU money that buys exotic cars you could have Crumpton or Cyfac whip up a murdered out custom carbon with matching finish with a custom matching leather saddle and bar tape (matte black and red stitching).

[ultraman6970]

Sand the carbon 11 stuff you have, print the new logos in good decal paper, re clear the thing and there you have it, an 80th anniversary group :)

There's a difference between the regular sr 11 and this one? So far can see only those decals.

[charliedid]

Meh

Sucker born every minute. Still though, it's just bike stuff and money...

[saab2000]

Meh

Sucker born every minute. Still though, it's just bike stuff and money...

Bike money of this sort doesn't even cover a tuneup, oil change and new tires on a Porsche 911. Bikes are dirt cheap compared to other things like boats and fancy cars. Chump change.

[dancinkozmo]

Bike money of this sort doesn't even cover a tuneup, oil change and new tires on a Porsche 911. Bikes are dirt cheap compared to other things like boats and fancy cars. Chump change.
4500 for a groupset chump change ??
how many are you in for ?

Ducati does this all the time with their motorbikes...
you have excess inventory ? no problem !! paint it a different colour, slap a sticker on it call it a "special edition", charge more for it to add to the perceived value , and watch the suckers and fanboys line up around the block to buy .

[bluesea]

I'm too insecure to have that on my own bike.

[oldpotatoe]

Meh

Sucker born every minute. Still though, it's just bike stuff and money...

Nice...I'll send pix to everybody but you.

[JEMM]

:)

[mktng]

$5000

one bottle cage. CAMMAAANNNNNN!

[oldpotatoe]

$5000

one bottle cage. CAMMAAANNNNNN!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Campagnolo-80th-Anniversary-9-piece-group-Factory-New-In-Box-Reserve-Yours-Today-/151015843821

I didn't pay even this. There HAS to be a reason to own a bike shop..

[jr59]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Campagnolo-80th-Anniversary-9-piece-group-Factory-New-In-Box-Reserve-Yours-Today-/151015843821

I didn't pay even this. There HAS to be a reason to own a bike shop..


You wanted it, you worked for the profit to afford it. You bought it!
No problem here. It will match the 50th set you have as well.
The question is will you be around to buy and enjoy the 100th set!

Spoken as one old guy to another!

[oldpotatoe]

You wanted it, you worked for the profit to afford it. You bought it!
No problem here. It will match the 50th set you have as well.
The question is will you be around to buy and enjoy the 100th set!

Spoken as one old guy to another!

Gonna come out my own pocket, not the shop. I just get wholesale $.

I'm looking forward to seeing my grandaughters graduate from HS or college more than the 100th.

16/18 years from now.

[saab2000]

4500 for a groupset chump change ??
how many are you in for ?

Ducati does this all the time with their motorbikes...
you have excess inventory ? no problem !! paint it a different colour, slap a sticker on it call it a "special edition", charge more for it to add to the perceived value , and watch the suckers and fanboys line up around the block to buy .

I'm not buying one of these groups. I buy used most of the time and pay pennies on the dollar for most of my stuff. That's how I ride Record on a Veloce budget.

My point is that folks here talk about cars and sometimes expensive ones at that. Really expensive ones that most folks don't own and never will.

Bicycling is a cheap hobby. Seriously. How many people here have a weekend car? Or a weekend home? Or a boat?

[corky]

Sand the carbon 11 stuff you have, print the new logos in good decal paper, re clear the thing and there you have it, an 80th anniversary group :)

There's a difference between the regular sr 11 and this one? So far can see only those decals.


its more than that, some of the alloy parts/fixtures have been DLC coated... but maybe folks see what they want to see...

[Jeff N.]

$2800 on shinybikes.com

[dd74]

$2800 on shinybikes.com
Wow, that's not bad.

[thirdgenbird]

Wow, that's not bad.

Someday I will probably regret saying no at that price.

[pdmtong]

LBS building up dogma with 80th group and 80th wheels

Now that I have seen it in person I get it.

The parts are completely " murdered out" matte black.
The only silver is on the brake spring.

The box is too nice to just toss.

I still say you buy it and ride it - life is short

[J.Greene]

It's interesting to read the reactions to 80th vs 50th. I recall a ton of new 50th groups still sitting around in 87 that even with steep discounts weren't walking out the door 4 years after release. 30 years has a way of changing perspective.

[Aaron O]

It's interesting to read the reactions to 80th vs 50th. I recall a ton of new 50th groups still sitting around in 87 that even with steep discounts weren't walking out the door 4 years after release. 30 years has a way of changing perspective.


+1 - I know my reaction to 80th is the same as it was to 50th...and you COULD buy it cheap as dirt in 87'. By '87 no one wanted a dinosaur like that - they wanted DA 7400. Someday people MGHT clamor for 80th, but do you really want to lay out the cash and make that bet? I'd rather put it in an IRA ;)

If you like the group, by all means buy it, use, love it...but I'm not a parts hoarder (I'm a bike hoarder).

[RedRider]

If you want a good investment buy growth stocks.
If you want a special, top of the line component group you should build a new bike with the Campagnolo 80th Anniversary set...and ride it hard!

[dd74]

The way the market acted this week, 80th anniversary might be a better investment. Maybe the Fed will buy a few group sets to put some money back in the economy.

[oldpotatoe]

It's interesting to read the reactions to 80th vs 50th. I recall a ton of new 50th groups still sitting around in 87 that even with steep discounts weren't walking out the door 4 years after release. 30 years has a way of changing perspective.

Have them both(of course), should have kept the 50th in the box..it's on a Merckx. 80th staying in the box..80th numbers made based on pre order, not just 15,000 and see what happens ala 50th.

[jet sanchez]

I am thinking about picking one up, are there any photos of the group built up on a bike out there?

I also am not sure about the wheelset, the deep dish wheels don't really do it for me.

[Ryun]

Here is a group on a zank

[slinkywizard]

Wow, that's not bad.

even better: http://www.salden.nl/default.asp?pid=52&catid=4243

about 2500 USD from a reputable Dutch bike shop. the price shown on the website is the price including 19% VAT...this get's deducted when shipped outside the EU

[thirdgenbird]

Here is a group on a zank

That is perfection.

[gomango]

That is perfection.

Just thought the same thing before I read your post Casey!

Good golly, that is a perfect combination.

[soulspinner]

Ya, that's the poo right there.........:beer:

[Jack Brunk]

How about a 80th anniv 2 x 10 mtn groupo. Campy should share the joy!

[slinkywizard]

In case anyone still regrets not keeping the 50th anniversary SR group boxed:
httphttp://www.ebay.de/itm/CAMPAGNOLO-SUPER-RECORD-50th-ANNIVERSARY-JUBILAUM-GRUPPE-1983-GROUPSET-Rennrad-/300922458164?pt=Sport_Radsport_Fahrradteile_Kompon enten&hash=item4610605034://
Not mine by the way...price is almost that of the 80th anniversary group...

[oldpotatoe]

In case anyone still regrets not keeping the 50th anniversary SR group boxed:
httphttp://www.ebay.de/itm/CAMPAGNOLO-SUPER-RECORD-50th-ANNIVERSARY-JUBILAUM-GRUPPE-1983-GROUPSET-Rennrad-/300922458164?pt=Sport_Radsport_Fahrradteile_Kompon enten&hash=item4610605034://
Not mine by the way...price is almost that of the 80th anniversary group...

Certain distributor of Campagnolo has I think number 23..wants $12,000..I know, I know but it's whatever the market will bare(bear?)...

[slinkywizard]

Certain distributor of Campagnolo has I think number 23..wants $12,000..I know, I know but it's whatever the market will bare(bear?)...
just noticed the group for sale on german ebay is "gently" used...and does not include the cables and housings...which explains the relatively low price compared to the 12.000 USD asked for NOS...

[oldpotatoe]

just noticed the group for sale on german ebay is "gently" used...and does not include the cables and housings...which explains the relatively low price compared to the 12.000 USD asked for NOS...

Take about 2/3 of the value off if you mount the group..whatever the 'value' is...subjective. I bought a NOS C-Record, last gen, 1989 RD for $135..sold same to a guy for $400..would not pay $400 for these..'whateverthemarketwillbear'