View Full Version : A Sachs in my size...any reason NOT to go for it?
JasonF
11-04-2005, 02:11 PM
http://tinyurl.com/da2gw
I dawdled and missed a frame in my size e-Richie was selling earlier this summer. Although his frame seemed to be in much better (and newer) condition, I think this one is worth a shot. Please, someone talk me out of bidding!
bironi
11-04-2005, 02:13 PM
Looks like the price is starting pretty high with a lot of time remaining.
Good luck.
Bruce K
11-04-2005, 02:14 PM
Boy I'm glad I don't have the money lying around to go after this one.
It's my size, too.
I passed on an e-richie used cross bike before building the Concours.
One of these days......<sigh>
BK
Argos
11-04-2005, 02:20 PM
Good thing it's not a 53.5 TT. I've been circling from above looking for a cross or road R. Sachs in my size for a while.
taz-t
11-04-2005, 02:37 PM
Go for it. If it were my size, I'd be bidding. I don't think you'll be disappointed. I especially like some of the extra details (internal brake cable routing, chomed chain stay).
The current high bidder is a regular on the CR listserv so maybe you can work something out (ie avoid a bidding war). Although I'm pretty sure that this auction won't close at just $1025.
- Taz in ATL
Bradford
11-04-2005, 03:12 PM
If you can afford it, I say buy it.
By the way, that IF in the background is the exact same color, panel, and decal scheme as my IF. I wonder what size that is...
funny story about that bike.....some guy we'll just call him "j.s." rescued that bike from a really horrible bike shop where it was sitting in the window and was covered in spider webs and dust. he tried to woo a fast woman with it to no great effect....the thing looks like it has never been ridden but it has certainly been moved around alot as you can see from the few chips on it....
anyway, buy it if you want. or don't. it's nice and has the neato j.b. paint job and that 8speed d/a stuff...you could definatly do worse. just make sure to take those hurting rally tires off the thing when you get it....there is no reason a tubular should be that bad even if it is priced slightly lower than some tubes.
jerk
Kirk Pacenti
11-04-2005, 04:07 PM
GO FOR IT! I know I would if it were a 59!
Roy E. Munson
11-04-2005, 04:20 PM
I wonder if that's the same Sach's I saw in a shop window in Boston earlier this year.
soulspinner
11-04-2005, 06:46 PM
A Sachs with Shimano? Worse than a Colnago with Shimano....
Sandy
11-04-2005, 06:53 PM
A Sachs with Shimano? Worse than a Colnago with Shimano....
Almost as bad as a Serotta with Campy. :) :)
Shimano Sandy
The only reason not to go for it is that you are on the waiting list.
...and, as usual, I may be full of fecal material. But if this is a Sachs, I assume it was a custom build. For a specific rider. Who isn't you. Unless he/she/it is built very much like you, sits on the bike very much like you, and rides quite like you, this bike might not be all that wonderful for you. Sure, the workmanship and craft is pure Richard Sachs and that may be reason enough to buy it. To look at and admire. But if you want a bike that rides like E-Richie's bikes are designed to ride, I'd think you'd want one he designed for you. Custom. That's why I'm still between a year and a year and a half out on the waiting list.
Am I missing something here?
-Ray (great and awesome last name coming..................) Sachs
JasonF
11-04-2005, 08:18 PM
...and, as usual, I may be full of fecal material. But if this is a Sachs, I assume it was a custom build. For a specific rider. Who isn't you. Unless he/she/it is built very much like you, sits on the bike very much like you, and rides quite like you, this bike might not be all that wonderful for you.
Valid points. If I am not mistaken, e-Richie is highly regarded for taking the measurements of a customer and translating those figures into the dimensions of a frame that are still based on how he, as the builder, believes the geometry should be laid out. In other words, the size is yours, the geometry is his. Therefore, the bike "should" fit another rider assuming similar proportions.
Also, if the frame is a late-80s vintage, I'm assuming that modern bits could be put on the frame with no clearance issues, except for the rear spacing. Am I wrong to assume this?
Fixed
11-04-2005, 08:24 PM
bro why not ask the master? he keeps good records, I bet he knows the bike without lookin it up i.m.h.o. cheers :beer:
JasonF
11-04-2005, 08:45 PM
bro why not ask the master? he keeps good records, I bet he knows the bike without lookin it up i.m.h.o. cheers :beer:
Concise words of wisdom once again from Fixed...just send e-Richie an email. Right back at you... :beer: :beer:
93legendti
11-05-2005, 07:56 AM
Please do...so I don't go for it!
e-RICHIE
11-05-2005, 09:09 AM
bro why not ask the master? he keeps good records, I bet he knows the bike without lookin it up i.m.h.o. cheers :beer:
if this van's rockin'
don't come knockin'.
at uci races with js et al.
on the road til sun pm,
two broken ribs and all.
i don't like to watch.
davids
11-05-2005, 05:58 PM
I wonder if that's the same Sach's I saw in a shop window in Boston earlier this year.
I think I saw the one you're talking about, too. Just across the Brookline line from Chef Chang's?
e-RICHIE
11-05-2005, 06:38 PM
mad painful
hurtin.
killed.
mad painful.
e-RICHIE
11-05-2005, 08:09 PM
kop day for us - 70 degree temps melted off
cupla tubulars yet bh saved red face by
podiuming in the u23 event. brian-issimo!
good job brian! bad job tufo tape!
jerk
the jerk is definetly giving brian a ride on the 2/3 team next year.....does he like miller high life? or double your pleasure chewing gum?
jerk
Johny
11-05-2005, 10:37 PM
from ebay:
Q: what are the top tube length and seat tube angle?*
A: Top Tube is 52.5 c-c I asked Richard Sachs personally what the an(g)les were. He responded (quote) THEY ARE THE RIGHT ONES. Thank You. Thank You
manet
11-05-2005, 10:44 PM
from ebay:
Q: what are the top tube length and seat tube angle?*
A: Top Tube is 52.5 c-c I asked Richard Sachs personally what the an(g)les were. He responded (quote) THEY ARE THE RIGHT ONES. Thank You. Thank You
viewed from the opposite side they would be THE LEFT ONES.
dirtdigger88
11-05-2005, 10:52 PM
viewed from the opposite side they would be THE LEFT ONES.
would it be different up side down?
http://www.spectroscopynow.com/ftp_images/2parrot2.jpg
Jason
Redturbo
11-06-2005, 07:16 AM
from ebay:
Q: what are the top tube length and seat tube angle?*
A: Top Tube is 52.5 c-c I asked Richard Sachs personally what the an(g)les were. He responded (quote) THEY ARE THE RIGHT ONES. Thank You. Thank You
RichieS measurements are all linear. :beer:
turbo
from ebay:
Q: what are the top tube length and seat tube angle?*
A: Top Tube is 52.5 c-c I asked Richard Sachs personally what the an(g)les were. He responded (quote) THEY ARE THE RIGHT ONES. Thank You. Thank You
Hi John,
Is set back, not angle.
For 53c-t frame, normally is about 13-14 cm (I guess).
Johny
11-06-2005, 11:00 AM
Hi John,
Is set back, not angle.
Hi Yim,
YES!
Fixed
11-07-2005, 10:00 AM
Bro that bike looks like new I like 8 speed if I were you and it fit me and I had the dough I'd get it .i.m.h.o. it's one cool ride cheers :beer:
e-RICHIE
11-07-2005, 05:27 PM
yowza Jason F-issimo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
H.Frank Beshear
11-07-2005, 08:57 PM
I think Jason maybe the proud owner of a SACHS BABY :banana: :D
bostondrunk
11-07-2005, 09:04 PM
I'm not sure I see the attraction of a 20 year old steel frame.....but who here is gonna buy this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/gorgeous-RICHARD-SACHS-road-frame-51-5cm-1984_W0QQitemZ7193819764QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
JasonF
11-07-2005, 09:16 PM
I'm not sure I see the attraction of a 20 year old steel frame.....but who here is gonna buy this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/gorgeous-RICHARD-SACHS-road-frame-51-5cm-1984_W0QQitemZ7193819764QQcategoryZ98084QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
That frame sure needs some Joe Bell T.L.C.
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