UCI... Yet Again

[jpw]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-to-disband-independent-commission

[slidey]

I predict Lance competing in this year's TdF.

By competing I mean...may the best cocktail win, and by TdF I mean...Tour (of) drugs (in) France!

[MattTuck]

Is this what it's like to watch a train wreck in slow motion? :help:

[alessandro]

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[dd74]

Why should WADA and USADA cooperate with the UCI when they're as dirty as LA? The UCI really needs to get a clue and blow itself up for new management, (like that will ever happen).

[MattTuck]

Why should WADA and USADA cooperate with the UCI when they're as dirty as LA? The UCI really needs to get a clue and blow itself up for new management, (like that will ever happen).


Not easy to do. They should hire the CEO of Domino's Pizza and the Ad Agency that did that 'we suck' campaign. Was a terrific example of rebranding when virtually everyone agreed their pizza was terrible.

[Rueda Tropical]

Lance has already lost control of the narrative. Little by little, it's slipping away from Verbuggen and McQuaid. Like Lance they will go down kicking and screaming but the slope just keeps getting steeper and more slippery.

Having been forced to dump the "independent" enquiry they had hoped to box in and control, they are now having to agree to what for them will be a nightmare scenario.

This soap opera will be running all season.

[AgilisMerlin]

Me thinks,

The shyt is about to truly hit the fan'

[BumbleBeeDave]

This line is interesting . . .

"The UCI stated it would launch the TRC "later this year" and once it was complete a report would be published "in full"."

Why would they need to "issue a report: if the TRC will be open? I predict they will later say "later this year" will mean next December and they will drag it out as far into 2014 as possible and try to pull some shenanigans to keep the testimony private "to protect the riders" or some such BS.

BBD

[shovelhd]

me thinks,

the shyt is about to truly hit the fan'

+1

[echelon_john]

Pat stands for reelection in the fall. That's why later this year.


This line is interesting . . .

"The UCI stated it would launch the TRC "later this year" and once it was complete a report would be published "in full"."

Why would they need to "issue a report: if the TRC will be open? I predict they will later say "later this year" will mean next December and they will drag it out as far into 2014 as possible and try to pull some shenanigans to keep the testimony private "to protect the riders" or some such BS.

BBD

[slidey]

Maybe I'm misinterpreting, as right now I think its advantage LA/UCI/doping. Best way to understand is who or what body makes up or is going to be in charge of the TRC? If its UCI again, as I'm assuming it is then whats to say that LA's version of truth will be questioned for veracity. Unless there's a notion of perjury resulting in financial loss/jail time, I see no way of getting truth out.

[Rueda Tropical]

Maybe I'm misinterpreting, as right now I think its advantage LA/UCI/doping. Best way to understand is who or what body makes up or is going to be in charge of the TRC? If its UCI again, as I'm assuming it is then whats to say that LA's version of truth will be questioned for veracity. Unless there's a notion of perjury resulting in financial loss/jail time, I see no way of getting truth out.

Offering the riders a one time get out of jail free card with WADA and USADA on the case... pros are going to be thinking a teammate is likely to implicate them so better confess as well and get a deal. That would open the flood gates. Wouldn't leave any room for half truths or lies from a few.

If management is not included it's the end of a lot of DS's and staff careers. A lot of doctors and dealers will have some splainin' to do to local authorities. It would take a long time to replace the entire enabling infrastructure.

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . has always tried to control the conversation, Pat is trying to set it up so he and Hein control the conversation in a TRC. The tide has become overwhelming so they can't prevent a TRC, but if they can stay in control of the proceedings you can bet they will use their usual tricks to try to sow some poison pills that will make sure they come out looking rosy.

The only way the TRC will work is if WADA or, better yet, USADA is in charge. But UCI would never acquiesce to USADA in charge because it's not an international body--and because Tygart would make sure nothing gets slipped under the rug. If UCI or IOC runs it then cycling riders and staff will still feel the threat of retaliation.

Even if the process is run by an authority with an image of impartiality, Omerta will still apply if there's still a chance that team managements will react like Quick-Step did with Levi. Riders will be reluctant to testify if they are afraid they will lose their jobs.

But it's still the best option left . . .

BBD

[William]

Yes, the "independent" commission that was set up by the UCI was actually trying to do the job they were appointed to do....so they want to kill it.:rolleyes:

http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/story/Armstrong-panel-opens-with-amnesty-consideration-012513






William

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . on the behavior of the UCI. Seems pretty on target . . .

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/01/news/wada-president-says-uci-conduct-arrogant-and-deceitful_272995

Again, UCI trying to control the conversation and WADA saying no way.

BBD

[echelon_john]

If the UCI were a business, accountable to shareholders or customers, Pat and Hein would have been history 2 years ago.

The only ones with any leverage are the sport's major sponsors, working in concert. It's only when money talks that the UCI seems to listen.

[Uncle Jam's Army]

It seems the only answer is to dissolve the UCI. Perhaps this can be accomplished by having the IOC not recognize cycling as an Olympic sport, until some alternative governing body assumes the mantle from UCI. The UCI has shown itself unfit to govern.

[AgilisMerlin]

ioc ?

http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTI2NzA&LangId=1

Hein VERBRUGGEN

Member of the IOC (1979-1982) then Honorary Member (2008-…) ; Member representing International Federations of the Evaluation Committee for the Games of the XXVIIIth Olympiad in 2004 (1996-1997) and of the Coordination Committee for the Games of the XXVIIIth 2004 Athens Olympiad (1998-2001) ; President of the Evaluation Committee for the Games of the XXIXth Olympiad in 2008 (2001) and of the Coordination Committee for the Games of the XXIXth Olympiad in Beijing in 2008 (2001-…) ; Member of the following IOC Committees: Marketing (1997-2008), 2000 IOC (1999) and Monitoring of IOC Reforms 2000 (http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Reports/EN/en_report_590.pdf) (2002) ; Council Member of GAISF (http://www.theworldgames.org/), then Vice-President, acting President and President (2007-…) ; Member of the Council of the World Anti-doping Agency (1999-2002) ; Member of the Executive Committee (2000-2003) then Vice-President (2003) of the ASOIF (http://www.asoif.com/Home/Default.aspx).

Member of UCI

Member of the Board of the of the International Professional Cycling Federation, Vice-President (1982-1984) then President (1984-1991) ; President of the UCI (1991-2005) then Honorary President (2005-…).

[AgilisMerlin]

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[Uncle Jam's Army]

ioc ?

http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI1/layout.asp?MenuId=MTI2NzA&LangId=1

Hein VERBRUGGEN

Member of the IOC (1979-1982) then Honorary Member (2008-…) ; Member representing International Federations of the Evaluation Committee for the Games of the XXVIIIth Olympiad in 2004 (1996-1997) and of the Coordination Committee for the Games of the XXVIIIth 2004 Athens Olympiad (1998-2001) ; President of the Evaluation Committee for the Games of the XXIXth Olympiad in 2008 (2001) and of the Coordination Committee for the Games of the XXIXth Olympiad in Beijing in 2008 (2001-…) ; Member of the following IOC Committees: Marketing (1997-2008), 2000 IOC (1999) and Monitoring of IOC Reforms 2000 (http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Reports/EN/en_report_590.pdf) (2002) ; Council Member of GAISF (http://www.theworldgames.org/), then Vice-President, acting President and President (2007-…) ; Member of the Council of the World Anti-doping Agency (1999-2002) ; Member of the Executive Committee (2000-2003) then Vice-President (2003) of the ASOIF (http://www.asoif.com/Home/Default.aspx).

Member of UCI

Member of the Board of the of the International Professional Cycling Federation, Vice-President (1982-1984) then President (1984-1991) ; President of the UCI (1991-2005) then Honorary President (2005-…).

What do you propose? I agree the IOC is no snow white, but how else do you get rid of the UCI? I don't trust anybody in that organization, even if McQuaid is voted out this Fall. I just feel it all has to be blown up in order for something new/better to come along.

[AgilisMerlin]

I am waiting for the current to hit the light bulb after the switch has been flipped.


kind of stalemate situation, for me.

For what the general public knows, what has been admitted, how the cards have fallen - Is this what the sport is really about?

Oh, and i used to believe in Santa Claus

[AgilisMerlin]

Seems there are those still planning a putsch