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fiamme red
01-24-2013, 03:01 PM
http://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=126

malcolm
01-24-2013, 03:03 PM
Didn't read the article yet, but if Ferrari said then how could you not believe it. The man is an authority.

MattTuck
01-24-2013, 03:32 PM
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LANCE ARMSTRONG, during the recent interview, said that he didn't think he could have won all 7 Tour de France's without using testosterone, EPO and blood transfusions.

I think Lance is wrong.

If his way of taking TESTOSTERONE was the one reported by several teammates (microdoses diluted in olive oil, under the tongue), this could not have more than a PLACEBO EFFECT.
The amount absorbed with this mode of administration and dosage are negligible and certainly have no effect on performance or recovery.
In the case of Armstrong after the disease, it is possible that exogenous administration of testosterone may even worsen his aerobic performances (Med Hypotheses 2007; 68:735-749).

EPO and AUTO-TRANSFUSIONS, always in the manner reported by teammates (micro-doses of EPO and 1-2 units of blood) correspond to an increase of Hb-mass by 5-10% for an endurance athlete weighing 75 kg, who has 9-10 liters of blood.
Such increments of Hb-mass correspond to performance improvements in the order of 3-6%.
Equal increases in Hb-mass can be achieved with appropriate periods of altitude training (J Appl Physiol 1998, 85:1448-1456, Int J Sports Med 2005; 26:350-355, J Appl Physiol 2006; 100:1938 - 1945, Scand J Med Sci Sports 2012; 22:95-103).

Therefore Armstrong would have achieved the same level of performance without resorting to doping, also thanks to his talent which was far superior to the rivals of his era.


It is nothing more than speculation really, and no one will ever know the truth.

FastVegan
01-24-2013, 03:39 PM
Wow! Now we know this we should give lance back everything.

William
01-24-2013, 03:47 PM
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djg21
01-24-2013, 03:49 PM
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It is nothing more than speculation really, and no one will ever know the truth.

It's bull****. If Ferarri and Armstrong truly believed that Armstrong could have won without doping, and that doping provided only marginal benefits, if any, Armstrong would not have doped and risked getting caught. It seems far more logical that Armstrong's physiology made him more responsive to doping then others, and that Ferrari and Armstrong just devised a better doping program (both of which appear to be true).

67-59
01-24-2013, 04:41 PM
no one will ever know the truth.

Truth.