russ denny built FUSOs

[bicycletricycle]

i heard about these coming out but just looked at the website today.

http://www.fusobicycles.com/

these look really great, is anyone planning on getting one? has anyone seen one?

[Joachim]

I've seen the one Russ Denny built for Dave Moulton (with an enve fork, yes, Moulton rides a carbon fork). It looks pretty good

[alexstar]

They look great to me. I like the original FUSO and I'm definitely interested in buying one of these.

[mister]

if someone really wants a fuso then that's what they gotta do i guess.

but one thing to notice, if you compare the prices after you add the OS tubing and a sachs BB then you're pretty much right in the same range as most other custom builders frames.

[54ny77]

fuso: yes indeed almost pulled trigger very recently, got something else instead that's just a little higher on the bucket list. beautiful bikes, fuso's.

wouldn't blink on ordering one. very fair pricing. russ has been around for years, w/good reputation. i had a bike he built as contract welder for the brand, it was superb craftsmanship.

one day i'd certainly like to have me a fuso. moulton (for whom russ worked, which should probably be a very reliable indiator of quality) built fuso's for my college team way back in the dark ages (and offered a team discount for purchase), i lusted after the frames then but certainly couldn't afford one. now, as an old fat guy, i want to one day relive that dream as i ride to the coffee shop on a fuso.

[jvp]

here's a small moulton fuso for sale locally: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3377601281.html
and a 56cm one sold around here recently.

[54ny77]

that is crazy, where's ya find that? i recognize several names on there from the 80's/90's. wow, small world.


here's a small moulton fuso for sale locally: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3377601281.html
and a 56cm one sold around here recently.

[Peter P.]

The Russ Denny-built Fuso's are a nice concept but they are not true to the original in geometry, and to me, that's key. They hardly "carry all the ride characteristics..." as claimed on the web site.

The original Fuso's had very steep seat angles for their sizes, and high trail/short fork rake.

The new models are pretty much like any other road bike out there.

[54ny77]

you can def. get custom geo.

and for the 55 i was looking at, it spec'd a 75 seat tube. i dunno much about frame geo but that seems steep, no? that contrasts by a couple/few degrees to my other bikes of similar size. presume it's sorted out elsewhere in other angles/measurements for the appropriate ride quality (which weren't listed but available, presumably, if asked and/or a buying customer).

[FlashUNC]

Great to see Fuso back from...not the dead....a nap maybe?

[tsarpepe]

I am sure the quality is good, but there's something off in putting EDGE carbons on these frames. Bad aesthetics, I guess...

[mister]

The Russ Denny-built Fuso's are a nice concept but they are not true to the original in geometry, and to me, that's key. They hardly "carry all the ride characteristics..." as claimed on the web site.

The original Fuso's had very steep seat angles for their sizes, and high trail/short fork rake.

The new models are pretty much like any other road bike out there.

did you look at the spec sheet?
the denny fuso's also have very steep seat tube angles
and 40mm fork rake...so trail will be high most likely...seems pretty true to the originals if what you state about their design is true...

[54ny77]

you guys poo-pooing them really need to read the website with a sharper eye.

the fuso "original" comes with a steel fork as standard fare. that's the frame that most think of when remembering the moulton fuso's of old. that's the one i'd have ordered. basic f&f in steel is about 1600, with options including sachs lugs and pego-ritchey tubing for about 2500.

(the confusion, perhaps, is the intro of the other fuso-branded os models, which are spec'd a little different, such as carbon forks.)

[alexstar]

I don't have a source - it may have been on Dave Moulton's blog - but I swear I recalled reading that the new FUSOs are true to the original geometry.

[jr59]

I don't have a source - it may have been on Dave Moulton's blog - but I swear I recalled reading that the new FUSOs are true to the original geometry.

That's what he said on his facebook page!

[rice rocket]

Guess I was the only one who thought this was about trucks.

http://www.focusontransport.co.za/images/stories/october2010/fuso1.jpg

[54ny77]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fusobicycles.com%2Ffuso-original%2Fgeometry%2F

http://www.fusobicycles.com/fuso-original/geometry/

"The FUSO Original frame uses the original measurements of FUSO and FUSO Lux models taken from the original FUSO spec sheets by Dave Moulton. All frame sizes are in centimeters and custom sizing available."

[cnighbor1]

i heard about these coming out but just looked at the website today.

http://www.fusobicycles.com/

these look really great, is anyone planning on getting one? has anyone seen one?

Looks like a TIG built frame If so I just lost any interest. Not like old fuso's
Charles

[alexstar]

Charles - they also come lugged. Take a look at the "FUSO Original".

[54ny77]

lugged, steel f&f, same geo's of old. it's called the "original".

even comes with 1" head tube.

i already posted the links above.

[zennmotion]

Looks like a TIG built frame If so I just lost any interest. Not like old fuso's
Charles

No. Not exactly like old Fuso's. Better. Lighter, stronger steel with modern joining methods. Russ has not had a big presence on the interwebs because he's remained busy in his shop building awesome rigs. I like lugged bikes, mostly for nostalgia. But a fast looking no-nonsense tigged bike with clean lines and modern components is beautiful. Russ doesn't need the Moulton name, as the student has surpassed the master IMO. But Russ is part of the Moulton story and he has a legitimate claim to use the name, and if it helps him build a business, good for him.

[559Rando]

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[Gummee]

No. Not exactly like old Fuso's. Better. Lighter, stronger steel with modern joining methods. Russ has not had a big presence on the interwebs because he's remained busy in his shop building awesome rigs. I like lugged bikes, mostly for nostalgia. But a fast looking no-nonsense tigged bike with clean lines and modern components is beautiful. Russ doesn't need the Moulton name, as the student has surpassed the master IMO. But Russ is part of the Moulton story and he has a legitimate claim to use the name, and if it helps him build a business, good for him.
I agree. Russ makes very nice bikes. Been to his shop. Eye candy galore.

M

[Peter P.]

Here's a link to the Original Fuso Specs. (http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/moulton/fuso/pdf/moultonfuso%20-%200002.pdf)

Note the steeper than common seat angles.

Note the 73 degree head angle across the range of most sizes, and the unusually low amount of fork rake, 1 3/8" or 35mm.

The geometry listed on the NEW Fuso Bicycles web site appears to apply ONLY to the Fuso Original (lugged) model. Even then I'd verify before ordering. The other models all sport carbon forks and the geometry specs listed show more commonly available 40mm forks at best.

I don't want to pick nits but the resulting high trail figures with the short fork rakes will result in the unique, signature ride of the original. I'm not arguing whether that's good or bad, just that the 40mm forks significantly change the handling of the bikes.

I think the pricing of the Original Lugged Fuso is very fair, even when some of the upcharges are chosen.