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pureretro
10-30-2012, 07:53 PM
Planning to build a second set of wheels that would supplement my aging Campagnolo Neutron wheels. Hubs will be Alchemy 20/24, Sapim spokes.

Wanted to try the Stan's 340 but concerned about weight limit. I don't race, I ride rolling hills and occasional climbs, and don't need anything full aero.

Any recommendations? I'm looking to build a strong wheelset for my weight, and would require little intervention. Probably brass nipples over alloy if that helps.

Thanks!

oldpotatoe
10-30-2012, 08:02 PM
Planning to build a second set of wheels that would supplement my aging Campagnolo Neutron wheels. Hubs will be Alchemy 20/24, Sapim spokes.

Wanted to try the Stan's 340 but concerned about weight limit. I don't race, I ride rolling hills and occasional climbs, and don't need anything full aero.

Any recommendations? I'm looking to build a strong wheelset for my weight, and would require little intervention. Probably brass nipples over alloy if that helps.

Thanks!

Certainly not Stans 340.

Aluminum?

R440 DT, with an OC rear.

OR

A23, OC rear...

2 cross all around, brass nipps, DT Comps or Sapim Race as well. 'Maybe' Revolutions or lasers in the front..ONLY

Peter P.
10-30-2012, 08:17 PM
Since you're concerned about reliability because of your weight, use a Velocity Aerohead O/C for the rear. The offset spoke bed reduces rear dish and subsequently, spoke tension, by 25 or 50%, I forget. It results in a huge difference in wheel longevity. I speak from experience.

jds108
10-30-2012, 08:17 PM
Yup, no way on the Stan's. I'm 205lb and have a 28/32 set and there is visible distortion of the rim at the nipple. No cracking or failure, but I think that will be the result sooner or later. (Maybe not, but these are the only rims I own that look like this.)

Plenty of choices out there - just don't go with uber-light products...

slidey
10-30-2012, 08:28 PM
I don't want to be a downer, but from what little I understand the 20/24 configuration for 180 lbs might prove to be quite demanding on the wheelset.

Oh, and as others have mentioned already...Stans 340 is not worth looking at (my local wheelbuilder dislikes them quite a bit, loves Velocity's though)

dekindy
10-30-2012, 08:35 PM
Return the hubs and get 24/28 or 28/32 is even better; and paired with Velocity Deep V rims would be virtually indestructible.

chismog
10-30-2012, 09:02 PM
imho, as a general rule if you're going with fewer spokes you need to make it up with a stronger/deeper rim. Mavic CXP 33s or something similar might be a good option.

ctcyclistbob
10-30-2012, 09:13 PM
...A23, OC rear...



Does this mean that O/C A23 rims are now available?

carpediemracing
10-30-2012, 09:19 PM
At about your weight (now) I run the HED Bastognes (aka Ardennes), 18/24h, no problems, two years so far, factory built, 23c tires, usually 90-105 psi (though on a few rides I'd done as low as 60-70 psi).

http://sprinterdellacasa.blogspot.com/2010/05/equipment-tantos-or-hed-bastogne-wheels.html

I race on them in the rain, sometimes in the Tues Night crits, and sometimes even in "real" races. I don't baby them, they don't get wheel covers, and I've flown with them in a soft case (i.e. they are the first thing to hit something) 5 or 6 times since I got them in 2010.

Before these I ran regular 32H rims (out of production FiR Zeniths) or 16/20H Reynolds DV46 clinchers. I also weighed 180-200+ lbs. No problems with those either but I wanted to go with the wider race wheels so I subscribed to the HED set up and got new training and racing wheels in 2010.

Cat3roadracer
10-30-2012, 10:02 PM
No love for the Mavic Open Pro? I have ridden many sets for years. No the sexiest but certainly a work horse rim. I'm a fan of the 32, at 150 lbs, probably overkill. Probably why they last so long. That and an awesome local wheel builder.

false_Aest
10-30-2012, 10:07 PM
a23

h son plus

hed c2

sjbraun
10-30-2012, 10:16 PM
I'm really happy with a new set of wheels made for me by Troy Watson of Fairwheel. I weigh 175 and wanted a set of all around wheels. I settled on Velocity A23 rims (24x28,) Chris King hubs (the ne R45s really are quiet,) and sapim spokes; all silver except for the red nipples.
I've only got a couple of hundred miles on the wheelset, but I really like them.

I'm running MIchelin Pro3s, 25mm at 85-90 psi. They are sooo comfy and no pinch flats, even after catching air multiple times over speed humps on a steep descent last weekend.

I wasn't looking for a lightweight wheelset, but these came in at 1450gms.

Vientomas
10-30-2012, 10:25 PM
http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=118614

pureretro
10-31-2012, 02:49 AM
Thanks for all the recommendations. Not fixed on the spoke count, and will look into the Aerohead o/c. No idea that was available on the market.

Keep the suggestions coming!

echelon_john
10-31-2012, 06:09 AM
I should have some in hand by the end of next week.

Does this mean that O/C A23 rims are now available?

jlwdm
10-31-2012, 08:13 AM
Planning to build a second set of wheels that would supplement my aging Campagnolo Neutron wheels. Hubs will be Alchemy 20/24, Sapim spokes.

!

Do you already have the hubs? If not the new Alchemy hubs should be out the first of the year. No special tool required on the new hubs.

Jeff

witcombusa
10-31-2012, 08:25 AM
I should have some in hand by the end of next week.

We're hearing more like mid November...(waiting on them myself)

OP fwiw, I wouldn't build a wheelset without an O/C rear these days. At 180+, I'd go up on the spoke count you are talking about too.

oldpotatoe
10-31-2012, 08:29 AM
imho, as a general rule if you're going with fewer spokes you need to make it up with a stronger/deeper rim. Mavic CXP 33s or something similar might be a good option.

CXP-33 are now only 32 and 36, I don't think they were ever 28h, never 24 or less.

oldpotatoe
10-31-2012, 08:30 AM
Does this mean that O/C A23 rims are now available?

I'd say mid to late November, Just talked to them Monday.

echelon_john
10-31-2012, 08:33 AM
heard last friday shipping next week...later wouldn't be a surprise, but it sounds like they're close.