Any comments on threaded to threadless adapters?

[rjfr]

sorry wrong section.

[AngryScientist]

I'm trying to decide on using one of the seemingly limited 26mm bars and quill stem vs threadless adapter and modern bars.

I have one bike with Cinelli bars and quill stem and another with 3t Ergonova and threadless stem. Both are covered with Lizardskin tape. I have medium to large hands and find the Cinelli bars to be a bit more harsh on chip seal roads. Something I can probably manage with gel inserts.

I am on the fence in making the decision between a quill or adapter and threadless stem. I need a bar with a reach on the shorter side. It seems the options for handlebars with a 26mm diameter are very limited at the moment.

Can anyone suggest a good short reach, ergonomic handlebar, other than the Deda 215 in 26mm?

The bike has oversized tubing, so a threadless stem should work. Has anyone tried adapters? Do they work? I will need about 3cm of rise between headset and stem. is this possible with available adapters?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

salsa and origin 8 have options, i have looked into this myself,

also, you want this in general discussion right? i'll move it if so...

[bicycletricycle]

they look terrible and should be avoided at all times.

[rjfr]

I'm trying to decide on using one of the seemingly limited 26mm bars and quill stem vs threadless adapter and modern anatomic bars.

I have one bike with Cinelli bars and quill stem and another with 3t Ergonova and threadless stem. Both are covered with Lizardskin tape. I have medium to large hands and find the Cinelli bars to be a bit more harsh on chip seal roads. Something I can probably manage with gel inserts.

I am on the fence in making the decision between a quill or adapter and threadless stem. I need a bar with a reach on the shorter side. It seems the options for handlebars with a 26mm diameter are very limited at the moment.

Can anyone suggest a good short reach, ergonomic handlebar, other than the Deda 215 in 26mm?

The bike has oversized tubing, so a threadless stem should work. Has anyone tried adapters? Do they work? I will need about 3cm of rise between headset and stem. is this possible with available adapters?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

[FlashUNC]

I used a threadless adapter on a bike for about a year. Couldn't even really notice it unless you were focusing on it. Never had any issues with it either.

[dbh]

Ditto. I only find them useful as a last resort, or if you're trying to temporarily find a fit on a bike with a threaded steerer. God they are ugly.

[Lewis Moon]

I did it on my '83 Waterford Paramount. It does open up a whole world of (much less limited) possabilities. Really, there's no downside.

[modernfuturist]

I don't think they are ideal, but they can look decent. The trick is to use a threaded headset with a flat topnut and a threadless adapter that isn't bulbous (the VO adapter looks particularly ugly, while the Delta and Nitto ones are pretty elegant)

http://i.imgur.com/34Iux.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2740/4155436393_9b6593d9cb_o.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a35/modernfuturist/1992%20Bridgestone%20RB-T/96d251f8.jpg

[DRZRM]

I have a Nitto 1" to 1 1/8" quill to threadless adapter if you want one, the taller one, though shipping to France may be prohibitive. PM if interested.

[ultraman6970]

My opinion is that they work, but the bikes simply looks bad, the headsets wont match the adapter neither the big as 1 1/8 diameter of the stem making the area look goofy.

[rjfr]

Looks very clean. Is that a quill stem or threadless?

[QUOTE=modernfuturist;1224374]I don't think they are ideal, but they can look decent. The trick is to use a threaded headset with a flat topnut and a threadless adapter that isn't bulbous (the VO adapter looks particularly ugly, while the Delta and Nitto ones are pretty elegant)

[modernfuturist]

On the Bridgestone is a Velo Orange 90mm Tall Stack threadless stem, which I'm coincidentally selling (http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=117418).

I'm using a Nitto MTC 12 adapter, and there are a few 1 1/8" spacers on there as well.

[oldpotatoe]

They work fine, look fine.

[mandasol]

Functionally they work great, and if anything makes the front end a little stiffer. I put them on a Lemond (sold) and a Serotta (still have) and they work fine.

However, I never really cared for the looks especially on my Serotta, not so bad with my Lemond but I think it's because those tubes are TIG welded.

I've been debating selling my Serotta, but if I keep it I'm going back to a quill stem and getting a Soma Hwy One bar (http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar) which is a compact bar that comes in a 26mm clamp area.

Soma Highway 1
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WOORbehI90Y/UH8V6FvB5AI/AAAAAAAAERU/yirgTeGyKbU/s800/yhst-3773699254952_2226_167496.jpg


Lemond
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AO7y9jrbITg/TgD3bSu5ilI/AAAAAAAADPg/XW1Cw56ih_4/s800/IMG_4466.JPG


Serotta
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SHzuXBlfLbs/TyRPf1wbpPI/AAAAAAAADPk/pKlLOa8KSvk/s800/DSC01995.JPG

[beeatnik]

This one looks pretty good. Got it from Universal Cycles.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8043/8087126819_de3eed45dd.jpg

[LO^OK]

It seems the options for handlebars with a 26mm diameter are very limited at the moment.

Can anyone suggest a good short reach, ergonomic handlebar, other than the Deda 215 in 26mm?

The bike has oversized tubing, so a threadless stem should work. Has anyone tried adapters? Do they work?

I used ITM 22.2 to 28.6 adapter (save for the dimensions otherwise identical to the Deda on sale at Bike24, http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;navigation=1;product=176;page=1;me nu=1000,4,28;mid=10;ID=09d98b88af68111e9ae6665b01a c0750).
Adapters work just fine, not to mention that they widen enormously the possibilities for stem-bar combos. I used the adapter with Ergostem for some time, and only switched to quill stem for aesthetic preferences; but aesthetics is highly personal thing, and I think it's not the subject of your query. In terms of functionality there should be no issues with threaded fork, adapter and threadless stem.


Regarding ergonomic bars in 26 mm, look no further than Nitto. Quality is top notch though in Europe Nitto turn out a bit pricey.

http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/index.html

http://www.jbpi.or.jp/english/JBG/JBG2010_2011/JBG2010_2011_NITTO.pdf

This is their French distributor
http://www.notionworld.com/distributions

Alex Cycle (Japan) has a good selection and ship internationally
http://www.alexscycle.com/

and these online retailers (German and Dutch) carry some Nitto stuff, and may be willing to supply to order

http://www.bike-mailorder.de
http://www.m-gineering.nl/

Hope this helps.

[Seramount]

appearance is HIGHLY subjective.

of all the photos posted, only the Merckx passes my calibrated eyeball test.

the rest range from sorely unattractive to full-tilt heinous.

[beeatnik]

appearance is HIGHLY subjective.

of all the photos posted, only the Merckx passes my calibrated eyeball test.

the rest range from sorely unattractive to full-tilt heinous.

Beg to differ. It's obvious you missed this one:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7263/6881430634_89803d033e.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7257/7027532481_c2e14ddfb4.jpg

[Waldo]

they look terrible and should be avoided at all times.

Agree completely, though Nitto makes some of the better looking of these uglies...

[rjfr]

At the end it sounds like the only way to determine if a threadless will work is to give it a try and see if it works esthetically. From the many comments, beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder!

Lo^ok, thanks for the links. Very handy. I think Singer in Paris also carries Grand Bois and Nitto (not positive about Nitto).

Mandasol, thanks for the link to Soma. I think of them carrying only city bike bars, but those look interesting.

Any other suggestions for 26mm bars you find comfortable, strong and relatively light?

[mandasol]

O.P. did you find a solution?

I decided to try out the bars I mentioned - the Soma Hwy 1 bars, thought I'd look up this post to see if you had updated with your decision, and to post an update of my own.

I went back to a quill stem (Cinelli 1A), changed the bars to the Soma's and changed the headset while I was at it to Cane Creek Classic.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nQezxuuiluE/UKPdBhH3_HI/AAAAAAAAEsw/W4H8sXUVdeY/s720/20121114_100008.jpg


Just for reference this was before:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5xlS02sracs/TgD37ckW3QI/AAAAAAAADPg/WjcTgDwUnM0/s720/IMG_4495.JPG

[christian]

Applause!!!

[bicycletricycle]

bad, don't do it

[Puget Pounder]

It can be made to look good, but a nice quill will always look better.

[oldpotatoe]

sorry wrong section.

de werk fine

[johnniecakes]

Done correctly they work well, Make sure to grease liberaly

[rjfr]

I haven't come to a decision yet. Taking a break from decisions at the moment.

I purchased an adapter from one of the forum members and have a stem. Just in case I decide to go this direction.

Initially, I'll go with a quill stem. Haven't yet decided on handlebars. From the pictures the Soma, Nitto or Deda bars should work. Mandosol, thanks for the updated pictures. The Soma bars look great.

It will be another month before I'm able to put everything together. I'll post pictures when the bike if finished.

[Flying Pigeon]

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/recent%20bikes/2002%20bohemian%20track%20bike/bohemian11-12_25.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/recent%20bikes/2002%20bohemian%20track%20bike/bohemian11-12_00.jpg

[rjfr]

Wow, that's gorgeous!!

[rjfr]

I decided to try the Soma Highway One with the stock titanium stem. If it doesn't work out, I have a 3t Ergonova in white with Ritchey Classic stem and an adapter as a replacement.

Here's the result.

[Neves]

I would be interesting in knowing what Dave used. I have a IF Crown Jewel that I havent decided what to do with. It has a threaded fork as well. Personally I think most adaptors look like turds.

That Serotta looks pretty clean also. Is that the VO adaptor.

[christian]

That looks just right. Don't mess with it.

Oh yeah, and for everyone else -- just because Dave Bohm can do it, doesn't mean you can!

[Keith A]

I would be interesting in knowing what Dave used. I have a IF Crown Jewel that I havent decided what to do with. It has a threaded fork as well. Personally I think most adaptors look like turds.

That Serotta looks pretty clean also. Is that the VO adaptor.So what is the problem with your CJ?

[Neves]

Nothings wrong with it. I just don't know if it's a keeper for me. I acquired it through parts swap with my buddy. If I do keep it I'd like to have single speed drops put on it and repainted.