PSA; Eddy Merck MXL Cherry Red 54cm

[robertt8883]

No Relation all Time Favorite;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eddy-Merckx-Leader-Red-Campagnolo-/200824592743?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item2ec2141967

[Orrery]

My size, too poor. That's a beauty.

[jtakeda]

My size, not really into the paint job though.

[robertt8883]

The last MXL i posted sold for $1500 also.They are bringing the money !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eddy-Merckx-...06%26rk%3D1%26

[DarkStar]

Too small, otherwise...

[StephenCL]

Guys,

This is a really rare MXL. It is the verison between the full MAX tube set and the latest MXL bikes...the seats stays are the give away.

Very cool..... just a tad too smal for me, or it would be mine.

Stephen

[DarkStar]

I know someone originally from Belgium now living in Calgary with the same model, it's killer!

[cpsqlrwn]

It is the verison between the full MAX tube set and the latest MXL bikes...the seats stays are the give away.

So which parts are MXL and which parts are MAX?

[StephenCL]

Down tube, seat tube, chain stays, fork blades all MAX tubing. There has been some debate about the other tubes, but I think the agreement is that the top tube and seat stays are ELOS. But together the set was called MXL, custom drawn for Eddy Merckx.

The very early Eddy Mercxk team bikes were FULL MAX tubing. Think 1990-1992. This included the invisible MAX internal crowned fork. The EM designed fork crown was the first change, and there are a few rare full MAX tubing bikes with the EM crown.

Then he started using this MXL tubeset and tucking the seat stays into the lugset like the frame on ebay..so my guess is that it is a 1993-1995.

Later the seat stays were tacked and capped ala Sachs and Peg style. This lasted through the end of production.

There was one other variation called the "Freuler" that featured head tube and seat tub extensions. One was just for sale on this site.

There you go, a short history of the Eddy Merckx MXL.

[54ny77]

yum.

[Aaron O]

It's beautiful, and would fit, but that seems awfully high to me. I know MXL goes high, maybe I just need to adjust expectations.

[StephenCL]

I think the right price is 1300. That's what I paid for my 25th aniversary MXL brand new (I think retail was 1450).

It is very cool because of the seat stay treatment. I have seen less than 10 like this in the last 20 years.

If it fits you, and you have never had one, you owe it to yourself. Its truly as magical as everyone says it is! Not sure why, it just is. There are some things in life that defy logic, this 6lb framset is one of them.

Stephen

[zmudshark]

Would suit Aaron well, I think.

[christian]

At the prices mentioned, I'm seriously starting to think about selling mine. Even though the ride is magical and it fits perfectly. When it's halfway to a Hampco LDV you have to start thinking!

[Aaron O]

Would suit Aaron well, I think.

I have soooo many bikes and I don't even know what level I'll be able to ride at. It truly is a beaut...and your size too ;)

[robertt8883]

Delete

[4Rings6Stars]

Last one that sold on the Bay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eddy-Merckx-...06%26rk%3D1%26

Not sure if it is just me, but both of your links to completed auctions didn't work for me. Brought me to a page saying the item has been removed or something.

[robertt8883]

Try this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eddy-Merckx-MX-Leader-frameset-MINT-/320976803942?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26

[oldguy00]

I offered 1100 and was declined. :(

Very nice frame. I doubt he will get 1500 for it. Maybe if it had a team paint job.......but it is still a 15-20 year old, used steel frame, even if the paint is in good condition.

[Aaron O]

I offered 1100 and was declined. :(

Very nice frame. I doubt he will get 1500 for it. Maybe if it had a team paint job.......but it is still a 15-20 year old, used steel frame, even if the paint is in good condition.

Give it a few weeks...if it doesn't sell, he may be more willing to deal. I made an offer for the complete MXL that I thought was fair...he rejected it. I'll wait until an hour before auction end and make the same offer....after a few weeks of sitting on it, I'm hoping his view changes.

[camchris1]

At the prices mentioned, I'm seriously starting to think about selling mine. Even though the ride is magical and it fits perfectly. When it's halfway to a Hampco LDV you have to start thinking!

So what are the specs on your MXL Christian!????

[54ny77]

very good point and something i've been wondering lately. i'm starting to think about a steel bike and have no idea if a modern steel vs. older steel will be much of a difference for all intents & purposes.

yes? no? sorta?

.......but it is still a 15-20 year old, used steel frame, even if the paint is in good condition.

[oldguy00]

I think if the frame has been taken care of, no rust, proper alignment, and threads are good, it will probably ride pretty much like new? I don't think steel gets flexy over time, does it?
I still wouldn't pay 1500 for it though. And if it didn't say EM on it, it probably wouldn't fetch more than 500..
Of course I'd love to get a new max frame from one of the custom builders, but I believe the cost is just north of 3k...

[Aaron O]

It depends on which builder you get it from...I bought this for well under that, and I believe he is as talented as anyone out there:


http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=106602

[dana_e]

is not accurate

if it is a 54 seattube c to c

then it is over 54 top tube (54.7) I think.

just sayin

[StephenCL]

is not accurate

if it is a 54 seattube c to c

then it is over 54 top tube (54.7) I think.

just sayin

Unless it's custom, then 54cm is certainly possible...I have seen a ton of custom MXL's over the years.

[texbike]

Down tube, seat tube, chain stays, fork blades all MAX tubing. There has been some debate about the other tubes, but I think the agreement is that the top tube and seat stays are ELOS. But together the set was called MXL, custom drawn for Eddy Merckx.

The very early Eddy Mercxk team bikes were FULL MAX tubing. Think 1990-1992. This included the invisible MAX internal crowned fork. The EM designed fork crown was the first change, and there are a few rare full MAX tubing bikes with the EM crown.

Then he started using this MXL tubeset and tucking the seat stays into the lugset like the frame on ebay..so my guess is that it is a 1993-1995.

Later the seat stays were tacked and capped ala Sachs and Peg style. This lasted through the end of production.

There was one other variation called the "Freuler" that featured head tube and seat tub extensions. One was just for sale on this site.

There you go, a short history of the Eddy Merckx MXL.

I could be wrong here, but aren't the round seat stays on the mid/later bikes constructed of SLX (the seat stays on my Corsa Extra and MXL are the same diameter)? Also, isn't the top tube a Max tube that was turned around opposite of it's usual orientation? On most Max bikes, the top tube flattens/widens as it enters the seat lug. On the MXL, the TT is turned the opposite direction and flattens/widens as it goes into the upper head lug.

As mentioned, the early MXLs had the MAX seatstays that can be easily identified since they have a flattened profile. These are usually attached to the BACK of the seat lug in a pseudo-fastback style. Once the round (SLX or EOS?) stays came into production, they were first attached to the sides of the seat lug like the one in this auction. After that the stays were attached to the side of the seat lug and had a full stay cap with the "EM" logo embossed into the cap (this is the most common stay treatment...).

As for pricing, the frame seems to be on the high-side of the norm, but not unreasonable. How often does a clean 54 cm MXL pop up for sale?

Cheers,

Texbike

[camchris1]

Texbike bringing the knowledge! I love this forum!!

[robertt8883]

C-C Bottom Bracket to Toptube ist 54 cm and c-c Seattube to Headtube is 55 cm in

[StephenCL]

Actually, no the top tube is not the same. The max top tube is far more swagged. Just did some side by side comparisons. The mxl tube is fairly round, just oversized. The max top tube flattens ways out.

Stephen



I could be wrong here, but aren't the round seat stays on the mid/later bikes constructed of SLX (the seat stays on my Corsa Extra and MXL are the same diameter)? Also, isn't the top tube a Max tube that was turned around opposite of it's usual orientation? On most Max bikes, the top tube flattens/widens as it enters the seat lug. On the MXL, the TT is turned the opposite direction and flattens/widens as it goes into the upper head lug.

As mentioned, the early MXLs had the MAX seatstays that can be easily identified since they have a flattened profile. These are usually attached to the BACK of the seat lug in a pseudo-fastback style. Once the round (SLX or EOS?) stays came into production, they were first attached to the sides of the seat lug like the one in this auction. After that the stays were attached to the side of the seat lug and had a full stay cap with the "EM" logo embossed into the cap (this is the most common stay treatment...).

As for pricing, the frame seems to be on the high-side of the norm, but not unreasonable. How often does a clean 54 cm MXL pop up for sale?

Cheers,

Texbike

[4Rings6Stars]

The top tube on my MXL is not just oversized and round... it flattens out pretty dramatically. Mine is from the 2000's I believe and is a 53

[texbike]

Actually, no the top tube is not the same. The max top tube is far more swagged. Just did some side by side comparisons. The mxl tube is fairly round, just oversized. The max top tube flattens ways out.

Stephen

I may need a full MAX bike to compare to, but both of my MXLs (a 1994 and a 1995) have a top tube that is significantly flattened and flared as it enters the head lug.

The bike that I looked at most recently with a EL-OS top tube was a De Rosa Primato and it didn't have anywhere near the amount of flattening or flaring of the tube that the MXL does.

Texbike

[Aaron O]

I may need a full MAX bike to compare to, but both of my MXLs (a 1994 and a 1995) have a top tube that is significantly flattened and flared as it enters the head lug.

The bike that I looked at most recently with a EL-OS top tube was a De Rosa Primato and it didn't have anywhere near the amount of flattening or flaring of the tube that the MXL does.

Texbike

I'll try to provide photo confirmation of text's statement. My primato has a LOT less flaring than my MAX and the MAX flares to the seattube.

[slidey]

There's a lot of interesting info floating around here...would either of you care to start a thread about the MX Leader in the General Discussion forum, just to enable easier archival and retrieval in the future?

[Aaron O]

MAX

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad205/aolk67/Photo0582.jpg

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad205/aolk67/Photo0484.jpg

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad205/aolk67/Photo0473-1.jpg

EL OS



http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad205/aolk67/photo-25.jpg

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad205/aolk67/IMG_0379.jpg

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad205/aolk67/IMG_0377.jpg



I'm having Photobucket issues, best I can do.

[StephenCL]

Folks,

Okay, found some definitive guidance here from the 1994 gita catalog as posted on the max tubing blog here.

http://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com/2011/01/eddy-merckx.html

The top tube for mxl is MINI MAX that is turned the opposite direction than full max. This explains why it will fit across the head tube. The ovalized section on my full max bike is almost teardrop shape and wouldn't fit across a 1 inch head tube well... But minimax does.

The seat stays are indeed SLX and according to the article, so are the chain stays...but I am not sure on that one. I think the mxl chain stays are much taller than typical SLX.

Hope this helps...

Stephen

[slidey]

Holy crap, that first pic on the "Eddy Merckx" tags...dang, the best quads I've seen on a chick!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4rB2TaHM09E/T-UA8Jm1CTI/AAAAAAAAWfU/gJP718UUSDw/s1600/mx+leader.jpg

Folks,

Okay, found some definitive guidance here from the 1994 gita catalog as posted on the max tubing blog here.

http://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com/2011/01/eddy-merckx.html

[texbike]

Folks,

Okay, found some definitive guidance here from the 1994 gita catalog as posted on the max tubing blog here.

http://columbusmaxbikes.blogspot.com/2011/01/eddy-merckx.html

The top tube for mxl is MINI MAX that is turned the opposite direction than full max. This explains why it will fit across the head tube. The ovalized section on my full max bike is almost teardrop shape and wouldn't fit across a 1 inch head tube well... But minimax does.

The seat stays are indeed SLX and according to the article, so are the chain stays...but I am not sure on that one. I think the mxl chain stays are much taller than typical SLX.

Hope this helps...

Stephen

Great link! Thanks!

The chainstays on the MXL are DEFINITELY MAX. There is no mistaking the tubing profile compared to SLX or ELOS.

By the way, thanks for the photos Aaron!

Cheers,

Texbike

[texbike]

There's a lot of interesting info floating around here...would either of you care to start a thread about the MX Leader in the General Discussion forum, just to enable easier archival and retrieval in the future?

Good idea Slidey. There have been several started before, but it may be a good idea to start another and to try and consolidate as much info as possible into that thread.

Texbike

[cpsqlrwn]

The bike that I looked at most recently with a EL-OS top tube was a De Rosa Primato and it didn't have anywhere near the amount of flattening or flaring of the tube that the MXL does.

EL-OS and the Primato (original Primato, not Neo Primato) specifically have no flaring or flattening of the main tubes. They are simply oversized, extremely thin (0.4 mm thickness in the middle sections), and produce an incredibly comfortable and responsive ride.

[jmoore]

The last MXL i posted sold for $1500 also.They are bringing the money !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eddy-Merckx-...06%26rk%3D1%26

Maybe it's time to ebay mine. It's not selling here. :confused:

[zmudshark]

I cannot speak for the MXL, but I can say that the chainstays on my Primato are Diamante shaped, and I think that is unique to De Rosa. I am led to believe that EL OS is also used in the chainstays on the Primato.

Point being that if you have the right pedigree, tubes can be drawn to your specs.

De Rosa EL OS chainstay:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JGT7s_xMqj4/ScQAWUfsU0I/AAAAAAAAAv8/pJ58N1FnG9U/s800/P3203211.JPG

Note how it comes to an angle near the BB on both the inside and outside, distinctly diamond shaped.

If I wanted the bike really badly, I'd try to negotiate with the seller. I think the price is optimistic, but if you really want one, and that one rings your bell, what's a couple hundred bucks in the big picture?

[4Rings6Stars]

Maybe it's time to ebay mine. It's not selling here. :confused:

I listed a complete (alloy 10s Chorus/Record) 53cm for about the same price as this frameset here recently and it didn't sell. Ding in the top tube though...

I'm glad it didn't sell though, ditched the ti AX instead...

[robertt8883]

Perfectly said; Zmudshark

I think the price is optimistic, but if you really want one, and that one rings your bell, what's a couple hundred bucks in the big picture?

[SuperColnago]

So what are the specs on your MXL Christian!????

I'm looking for one if you want to sell! 55 or 56 is good for me!

Cheers

[jmoore]

I listed a complete (alloy 10s Chorus/Record) 53cm for about the same price as this frameset here recently and it didn't sell. Ding in the top tube though...

I'm glad it didn't sell though, ditched the ti AX instead...

Mine's $1200 with a headset. Maybe slightly high but not outrageous.

[texbike]

Mine's $1200 with a headset. Maybe slightly high but not outrageous.

That's a beautiful bike! I would definitely put it on ebay as it will reach a broader audience. The only thing that could possibly impact its value is the lack of an original MXL fork.

Cheers,

Texbike

[jmoore]

That's a beautiful bike! I would definitely put it on ebay as it will reach a broader audience. The only thing that could possibly impact its value is the lack of an original MXL fork.

Cheers,

Texbike

It will go on ebay eventually. I just need to get around to it.

I've heard that multiple times about the fork. Personally I've never missed the original but I can see where it could be a detriment to the value, no matter the quality of the replacement (which is very high).

[rbtmcardle]

I made an offer...

[cpsqlrwn]

If I wanted the bike really badly, I'd try to negotiate with the seller. I think the price is optimistic, but if you really want one, and that one rings your bell, what's a couple hundred bucks in the big picture?

+1

I've overpaid slightly for many bikes that I had a strong yearning for and never thought twice about it. Occasionally I've walked into a great deal as well, but unfortunately, that hasn't happened as often!

[robertt8883]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110956259085&item=110956259085&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

TELECOM MXKL 54CM

[StephenCL]

SSSSHHHHHHHH! That one was my little secret. Headed to the UK for business next week. Don't want to be bidding against fellow forumites...! :). Let me know if you ARE bidding, and I will back out.

Stephen

[efuentes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110956259085&item=110956259085&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

TELECOM MXKL 54CM


This is a nice frame! and whats with all the right sized frames on sale this week?

[Louis]

Headed to the UK for business next week.

I can just imagine your wife picking you up at the airport and standing with you at the baggage carousel:

W(ife): Ok, there's the suitcase, let's go.
S(tephen): Wait, there's one more thing.
W: What do you mean, you only took one carry-on and one suitcase.
S: You'll see...
(Frame box comes out the chute to lands on the belt.)
W slowly turns and looks at S, who now has a sheepish grin.
W: Another one???!!!!
S: What can I do? It followed me home!

[StephenCL]

I can just imagine your wife picking you up at the airport and standing with you at the baggage carousel:

W(ife): Ok, there's the suitcase, let's go.
S(tephen): Wait, there's one more thing.
W: What do you mean, you only took one carry-on and one suitcase.
S: You'll see...
(Frame box comes out the chute to lands on the belt.)
W slowly turns and looks at S, who now has a sheepish grin.
W: Another one???!!!!
S: What can I do? It followed me home!

NICE!!!! Not far off from the truth of how it usually goes. I remember the time I picked up a new Colnago while on a business trip to San Fran. Shop owner gave me a screaming deal, I couldnt say no, and my wife just barely noticed the extra bike frame box I put into the garage after being dropped at home :).

The things we do for this sport....

Stephen

[Aaron O]

<---glad I ride a 55/56...I can ride a 54, but it makes it easier to pass.

[cpsqlrwn]

<---glad I ride a 55/56...I can ride a 54, but it makes it easier to pass.

Exactly what I have been thinking!

[texbike]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110956259085&item=110956259085&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

TELECOM MXKL 54CM

Wow! That Telekom bike is hot!

Texbike

[cpsqlrwn]

Wow! That Telekom bike is hot!

I can appreciate how everyone likes that color scheme, but I just can't get past the pink!

[oldguy00]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110956259085&item=110956259085&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

TELECOM MXKL 54CM

Was hoping no one here would notice that one....... ;)

[oldguy00]

I can appreciate how everyone likes that color scheme, but I just can't get past the pink!

Love the pink!
Anyone have a photo of the old Telekom pink aluminum Dogma's from 2003?
I think those were one of the nicest looking bikes ever.

[oldguy00]

Love the pink!
Anyone have a photo of the old Telekom pink aluminum Dogma's from 2003?
I think those were one of the nicest looking bikes ever.

Found it, this one as pictured on weight weenies:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44076&start=0

[texbike]

I can appreciate how everyone likes that color scheme, but I just can't get past the pink!

Wow! The pink is what makes the color scheme. It looks much better in person! However, I get it -not everyone digs pink. In fact, there is a TMobile-painted Giant on the local CL right now that the owner went to the trouble of covering up all of the pink on the bike with blue tape.

http://austin.craigslist.org/bik/3290134943.html

Texbike

[Aaron O]

Judge me if you will...I love the color pink. It's taken me a long time to be comfortable enough to admit this, but I think pink looks good...whether on a shirt or a bike. It's bright, happy and attractive. I now wear the occasional pink shirt to the office.

My wife is currently having her next commuter powder coated pink (I just added this in as my "not that there's anything wrong with it" caveat since I'm just out of the pink closet) and I think it looks great.

[cpsqlrwn]

Judge me if you will...I love the color pink. It's taken me a long time to be comfortable enough to admit this, but I think pink looks good...whether on a shirt or a bike. It's bright, happy and attractive. I now wear the occasional pink shirt to the office.

My wife is currently having her next commuter powder coated pink (I just added this in as my "not that there's anything wrong with it" caveat since I'm just out of the pink closet) and I think it looks great.

I just can't comment on all this without being banned so I shall remain silent. The next thing you're going to tell me is you have a yellow bike! Or orange! I know you do! :eek::)

All in good fun!

[rbtmcardle]

anyone interested in the originally posted MXL.. i offered 1325, they countered at 1400.. i declined.. just as well.. it would have been a stretch with the 55cm tt.. especially with slackish sta


OTOH - Aaron.. when you are ready to move a classic bike.. let me know

[cpsqlrwn]

anyone interested in the originally posted MXL.. i offered 1325, they countered at 1400.. i declined

At some point the seller may wish he had your offer back. Either very confident or very greedy!

Selling and buying is so emotional and psychological and often we don't even realize it as it is happening. He could contact you later and offer the $1325 and you might say no because you have emotionally divorced yourself from the idea of purchasing the bike after you declined his counter. You have moved on emotionally (just as well.. it would have been a stretch with the 55cm tt.. especially with slackish sta.) It is really an interesting process!

[robertt8883]

Don't count on it The Red MXL will be gone !

I sold this Telecom NOS what a Mistake
http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f3/eddy-merckx-corsa-extra-team-telekom-colors-23405.html

[rbtmcardle]

No doubt.. it is a fascinating process..

At some point the seller may wish he had your offer back. Either very confident or very greedy!

Selling and buying is so emotional and psychological and often we don't even realize it as it is happening. He could contact you later and offer the $1325 and you might say no because you have emotionally divorced yourself from the idea of purchasing the bike after you declined his counter. You have moved on emotionally (just as well.. it would have been a stretch with the 55cm tt.. especially with slackish sta.) It is really an interesting process!

[Aaron O]

I just can't comment on all this without being banned so I shall remain silent. The next thing you're going to tell me is you have a yellow bike! Or orange! I know you do! :eek::)

All in good fun!

Ha! Of course :)

[cpsqlrwn]

Don't count on it The Red MXL will be gone !/url]

But will it be gone for more than $1325? Are you going to buy it for $1400?

[rbtmcardle]

was contacted by the seller this morning.. offering to sell outside of ebay for 1300 plus 50 for shipping.

No thanks.

[robertt8883]

Shipping from Germany with no Protection not a good call !

[cpsqlrwn]

shipping from germany with no protection not a good call !

+1

[cpsqlrwn]

was contacted by the seller this morning.. offering to sell outside of ebay for 1300 plus 50 for shipping.

No thanks.

He'll sell it to you for $1300, but he won't do the $1325 you offered previously under an eBay transaction! This guy really is greedy! He's giving you $25 off the price and in exchange for that he's lowering his costs by the eBay fee which, unless I'm mistaken, would be $71.25 savings in a fixed price listing based on a final value fee of $1375 ($1325 + $50 shipping). One way or another, he's insistent on getting the equivalent of around $1350 to $1400 for this frame and fork!

If you really want the frame and want the protection of an eBay transaction, you ought to just submit another $1325 offer and see if he takes it. But perhaps you've just had enough of this. Can't say as I blame you.

[Aaron O]

Y'know...there are a lot of nice bikes out there, and a lot of nice bike sellers. Life is too short to deal with the ding bats.

[oldguy00]

Well, lets not be too hard on the guy.
He's essentially made it clear that he wants a certain amount give or take $50, for the frameset. Nothing wrong with that. If you don't like the price, don't buy it.

[slidey]

Ouch, my eyes hurt now :help:

At the risk of sounding effeminate, let me say that I don't necessarily dislike pink...but that's the pleasant hue of the maglia Rosa. To me, this specific shade is outright ghastly. The pink in the Telecom/Tutti fruti MXL's are again classy.

Found it, this one as pictured on weight weenies:
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44076&start=0

[oldguy00]

Ouch, my eyes hurt now :help:

At the risk of sounding effeminate, let me say that I don't necessarily dislike pink...but that's the pleasant hue of the maglia Rosa. To me, this specific shade is outright ghastly. The pink in the Telecom/Tutti fruti MXL's are again classy.

One less person to bid against on telecom bikes......yeah baby. ;)

[deutscheclique]

For those not watching: nearly $1900 for the Telecom. Makes the price tag on the red one seem not so far-fetched. I too love the pink and would prefer Telecom colors (or Molteni!) over all others.

[rbtmcardle]

I've still been watching it.. Funny the red mxl has 44 watchers but no one biting as of yet.. He also took,away the best offer option.

[robertt8883]

Shipping might be a challenge !

[cpsqlrwn]

He also took away the best offer option.
Greedy, greedy!

[rbtmcardle]

Greedy, greedy!


No, I don't feel that way at all.. It's his/hers to do,with what they like.. For me it's still too much risk. If it were that price local to me, sure I would be more confident and comfortable with a purchase.

[dbh]

No, I don't feel that way at all.. It's his/hers to do,with what they like.. For me it's still too much risk. If it were that price local to me, sure I would be more confident and comfortable with a purchase.

Cheaper than a custom Max frame and paint is damned near perfect. High, but not a crazy price. I bet if he had started it as a true auction, as opposed to a BIN price, he would have broken the 1.5k mark easily.

[cpsqlrwn]

Cheaper than a custom Max frame and paint is damned near perfect. High, but not a crazy price. I bet if he had started it as a true auction, as opposed to a BIN price, he would have broken the 1.5k mark easily.

I'm not sure about breaking 1.5k easily, but I agree he would have done better and without all the haggling he's going thru trying to get at least $1400 plus shipping for the item. That Telekom MX Leader just went for close to $1900 which personally, I think is crazy, but it is what it is.

[Keith A]

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

[texbike]

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

It's been relisted on ebay with a $1400 buy it now...

Also, $1900 for a Tkom MXL frameset is crazy!!! Maybe I should sell mine...:rolleyes:

Texbike

[jet sanchez]

Ouch, my eyes hurt now :help:

At the risk of sounding effeminate, let me say that I don't necessarily dislike pink...but that's the pleasant hue of the maglia Rosa. To me, this specific shade is outright ghastly. The pink in the Telecom/Tutti fruti MXL's are again classy.

I have a really pink Telekom Merckx, they only did this colour scheme for one year, 1995. They then went to Pinarellos.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/jetsanchEz/olaf.jpg

[camchris1]

It's been relisted on ebay with a $1400 buy it now...

Also, $1900 for a Tkom MXL frameset is crazy!!! Maybe I should sell mine...:rolleyes:

Texbike

I heard that Texbike!!!!!!!!!

[Fixed]

I have a really pink Telekom Merckx, they only did this colour scheme for one year, 1995. They then went to Pinarellos.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/jetsanchEz/olaf.jpg

The way a Merckx likes to look brutishly beautiful ,awesome
Cheers :)

[slidey]

How do you mean really pink? Is it different than the standard Telecom MXL colour scheme? If so, pics please :)

I have a really pink Telekom Merckx, they only did this colour scheme for one year, 1995. They then went to Pinarellos.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j103/jetsanchEz/olaf.jpg

[jet sanchez]

How do you mean really pink? Is it different than the standard Telecom MXL colour scheme? If so, pics please :)

It is the reverse of the standard Telekom colours, you should be able to see it as I have it hosted on photobucket. If not, I put it up on imagebox as well. I also have a '93 tutti frutti Corsa Extra made from TSX tubes. I need some better photos of it, the pink looks red in this one.

Needless to say, they are both amazing bikes.

http://i.imgbox.com/abgPDN20.jpg

http://i.imgbox.com/absjX0a5.jpg

[rbtmcardle]

OP red eddy sold for 1200 ... I don't no who got it.