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Flying Pigeon
08-29-2012, 06:37 PM
Thank you for writing all the posts about the Alps. They have been so inspiring that:
a) I had to join this forum
b) I had to go there and see it for myself

Unfortunately I couldn't go for very long.. not with my full time job and a baby on the way on the way in December. But I did carve out 12 days for a trip last month (sick days I think they're called) and my pregnant wife was excited to go as well. We decide to base ourselves near Annecy and rent a car for the whole time. For a bike I took my Ritchey Breakaway which worked perfectly and saw a lot of action in the 34x29t combination.

When we were planning an itinerary for a trip in July there were a couple days that coincided with the Tour. Strangely enough we treated this as something to avoid, since we didn't want to be around so many people and all the traffic jams. So intentionally the closest we got was arriving 2 days after the stage crossing the Madeleine and up the Croix de Fer. I did see lots of 'Allez Voecklers' painted on the roads. And I found out French TV coverage blows ours away.

As much as possible, my mission was to knock off a lot of famous cols. I was treating this as my last chance for many years - facing all the diaper-changing and sleepless nights I have ahead of me. Oddly when I came back from those rides it turned out that it was my wife who was actually more tired a lot of the time. We would cruise around the little villages and then she would need a nap. She could get up and rally, but not for more than 2 hours at a time. Having a baby is hors categorie folks!

We had some really great times in Annecy which is just awesome. It's a gorgeous town on a turquoise jewel of a lake surrounded by huge mountains. There are some lucky cyclists in that town! Another big highlight was near Mt Blanc when we took the telepherique from Chamonix up to l'Aiguille de Midi. It is a short trip up on a cable car until you step off and you're surrounded by glaciers and huge granite spires. Just unreal - a lifetime highlight. We also got down to St Jean de Maurienne, where the hotel owner remembers our own beloved Paceline darling Lance staying there. The draw is all the big famous hills, but I also checked out the cartoon-like switchbacks of the Montvernier (http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/lacets_de_montvernier.jpg). And then Briancon, which may have the biggest motherlode of killer riding -- probably where I would pick if I could have a base in the French Alps.

With some time to look back and reflect, the big-marquis climbs like the Galibier, Madeleine and l'Alpe de Huez were cool for being a pilgrimage (hill-grimage?) that took me 25 years to do finally. Bu they weren't nearly as satisfying as the 1-lane roads with lots of solitude like Sabot and l'Arpettaz. The best thing is when the road seems made for bicycles above all else, and my idea of paradise doesn't have tour buses and hundreds of motorcycles.

So I wanted to share a really cool lesser-known one that I searched out between Martigny and Lac Leman in Switzerland called Alp Rionda (http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/Rionda_Lavey_les_Bains_profile.gif).

One thing that is a blessing (or a curse if you're a masochist) about roads in the Alps is that they very seldom go beyond 8%. Not this one! The stats are: 11.2%/15.3km long/1715m gain/2157m maximum - longer and higher than Mt Washington at a similar grade. A charming beauty.. and a monster. On to the pics, I give you this Swiss legbreaker:

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda-5.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda-3.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda-1.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda-4.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda-2.jpg

Fixed
08-29-2012, 07:40 PM
Looks painfully beautiful :)
Cheers

maxdog
08-29-2012, 07:44 PM
Sweet climb. I entered the zone just checking out the pics.

roydyates
08-29-2012, 08:34 PM
The little vertical ribbon behind your bike is a waterfall isn't it?

roydyates
08-29-2012, 08:37 PM
I've only had the pleasur eof two days riding inthe alps, but I think Wecame to similar conclusions. That is, thr famous Cols of the TdF are not the most interesting orbeautiful climbs. Instead, the famous climbs are mostly limited to roads that can carry a peloton and support crews.

Louis
08-29-2012, 09:01 PM
Wow - that is awesome.

That looks tough whether you're going up or down - a workout for your legs or your brakes...

Thanks for sharing with us.

choke
08-29-2012, 09:41 PM
That looks wonderful....thanks for sharing. I love posts like this one.

Oh, and welcome to the forum.

oliver1850
08-29-2012, 10:00 PM
Nice bike and great pics. Thanks

jghall
08-29-2012, 10:13 PM
Great pictures. Thanks for sharing.

Steve in SLO
08-29-2012, 10:16 PM
Wow, pictures 2 and 4 are awesome!
The others are good, but crimeny, look at the pitch of those roads.

poff
08-29-2012, 10:22 PM
Alp Rionda is one tough mother, tougher than Mortirollo and Grosse Speikkogel, two of my favorites.

leftyfreak
08-29-2012, 10:52 PM
Truly brilliant! And I have to say that Montvernier is hard to believe. Now I've got a couple more places to dream about visiting. Your thoughts on riding the more isolated routes is also an interesting perspective--thanks for that.

Congratulations and best of luck with the arrival of the baby! I've got a four and half year old myself, and it's absolutely wonderful to be a parent.

Karin Kirk
08-29-2012, 11:38 PM
What a nice way to make a splash as a new forumite. Well done! :)
Those switchbacks look gnarly! (in a good way, of course)

Thanks for sharing the photos and insights.

mjb266
08-29-2012, 11:49 PM
I'm begging you...write more.

I want more pics and more descriptions. This was a fantastic post and I'd love to see more.

velotel
08-30-2012, 12:45 AM
That's some ride. I'd need a triple for that, and a small one to boot. You ride all the gravel with those tires? Looks like it should be doable easily enough but the descent with road tires could be iffy at times I would think. According the profile I'm attaching, I think the average is more than what you say. Nice climb. You must be strong.

monkeybanana86
08-30-2012, 01:39 AM
I enjoyed the write up and pictures. beautiful bike and build too! these type of posts make me want to go out and push my pedals

Flying Pigeon
08-30-2012, 01:52 AM
-It's amazing that some of you guys/gals are familiar with this far-flung road. It speaks to what caliber of adventurous cyclists are posting here. I will keep gobbling up everything you share about your favorite rides.
-34x29 + no hurry = doable
-no road is too steep to descend on a bike IMO
-Yes it does turn to gravel in the final kilometers. I didn't find it any more difficult, but it's so coarse and sharp that I was worried about slashing my tires. And I was alone quite a ways back in there.
-thank you Velotel.. thank you thank you thank you. So much inspiration.
-I looked for an even steeper climb called La Savonne (7km at 15.2%) above St Foy Tarentaise. I ended up on a different road that was so fun and challenging that I never felt like turning around to find something else. Anyone done that one?

For more pics I have these. It is a panorama taken about 2km from the top. You'll have to stitch these together with your imagination (and add distant cowbells and moo-ing). Starting with Mt Blanc and turning towards the right past the Dent du Geant.

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda1.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda2.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda3.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda4.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda5.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda6.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/rionda7.jpg

clang, clang MOOOO.

BBB
08-30-2012, 02:11 AM
Great photos. Well done.

maxn
08-31-2012, 02:48 PM
That looks awesome! Definitely at the top of my list now. And I just bought a Swiss autoroute sticker, too

maxn
08-31-2012, 02:54 PM
Wrong thread.. Oops

Flying Pigeon
08-31-2012, 03:09 PM
Small world though. I did a ride with him about a week after this one.

Flying Pigeon
09-09-2012, 09:41 AM
last few pics.. thanks for looking!

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/nice-1.jpg


http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/lauteret-1.jpg


http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/bonette-4.jpg


http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/bonette-2.jpg


http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/lacets1.jpg


http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/izoard-2.jpg


http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/izoard-4.jpg

http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/discardedstrings/izoard-7.jpg

William
09-09-2012, 09:53 AM
Thank you for sharing!:cool:

I love all the picts, esp the last one. So much is conveyed about what most of us love about cycling in that one image.




William

maxn
09-09-2012, 10:56 AM
Casse Deserte?

ljklassen
09-09-2012, 04:23 PM
I miss the Alpes already, and it's only been a month. Actually, I started missing them as I boarded the train back to Paris...