It was inevitable: Rapha shoes

[Elefantino]

"The hand cut uppers, made from an exclusive Yak leather ..."

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3222-70.jpg

$450.

[William]

Here comes my future left and right Rapha Shoes....

http://yakpics.com/media/yaks/2010/01/image_24.jpeg





William

[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . but I have to admit that $450 is not that far out of line with a pair of upper level Sidi's or others.

BBD

[dave thompson]

Out of that $450, I wonder what you're paying for the name and what you're paying for the product. I'll bet the value is pretty skewed.

[flydhest]

I laughed and cried. I am sad that I actually think they look like shoes I'd want to try. I laughed at Rapha out-Rapha-ing itself. That said, I had some Carnac mountain bike shoes that lasted over a decade of use that had kangaroo leather. They were great.

What's next, Soylent Green in the musette?

[Elefantino]

They look real stupid
Would you care to repeat that?

http://www.picgifs.com/animal-graphics/animal-graphics/yak/animal-graphics-yak-049160.jpg

[benitosan1972]

The original Rapha-Giro shoe collaboration was alot nicer looking, IMO.

If I'm gonna spend $$$ on shoes, clothes, etc it'd better have some black 'n pink on it!

[oldpotatoe]

"The hand cut uppers, made from an exclusive Yak leather ..."

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3222-70.jpg

$450.

Didn't know Yaks came in white with little holes in them...hair holes?

I feel sorry for the Yaks.

[AngryScientist]

i am generally a big fan of Rapha products. all well made and work very well in my experience.

that said, this is not something i would buy. Specialty items, like shoes, IMO are best left to shoe manufacturers, who's specialty is shoes, or at least have a well established shoe program. I happen to love specialized shoes, more-so than Sidi.

these are such a niche item, that there is really no way to know how they fit, and there will be little meaningful feedback on them as far as reviews, durability experience etc.

Rapha makes great bibs, jerseys, jackets - but when it comes to shoes, jeans, belts, etc - i'll pass.

[54ny77]

http://img.mp3lyrics.com/art/bddcda5d.jpg

[TMB]

.......

[Nooch]

The shoes are made by Giro. They make shoes.

i was looking at them and said 'well, those look a lot like the Factor' and then i read the copy and there you go..

so it's going to have an easton carbon sole, and i've heard great things about the giro shoes, so these are likely to be a winnner.

[BumbleBeeDave]

Would you care to repeat that?

http://www.picgifs.com/animal-graphics/animal-graphics/yak/animal-graphics-yak-049160.jpg

They look stupid--SIR!

Look like golf shoes with straps. That's not necessarily bad, just not my style.

BBD

[dave thompson]

Wing-tip white bucks. Or a saddle-oxford assembled by a hung-over guy early Monday morning at the factory.

[TMB]

.....

[CNY rider]

Over-under on how many pages this thread goes?
I'll wager at least 6.

[Elefantino]

If I were to go full-on leather, yak or cow, I might go with these, brought up ATH.

http://www.dromarti.com/images/dromarti/medium/black-race_MED.jpg

Not bad for $223.

[54ny77]

i'll go with 5.

unless you start talking about the $600 assos fugu winter tights too, then i'll say 9 min., with personal insults and a mention of obama and monetary policy in there somewhere.

Over-under on how many pages this thread goes?
I'll wager at least 6.

[benitosan1972]

Over-under on how many pages this thread goes?
I'll wager at least 6.

6 or it will be closed when thread spirals into Rapha-bashing.
People will hate, people will buy, Rapha continues on in black/white, pink, money green...

[CNY rider]

Forget it man, Shimano sucks and SRAM is worser!

i'll go with 5.

unless you start talking about the $600 assos fugu winter tights too, then i'll say 9 min., with personal insults and a mention of obama and monetary policy in there somewhere.

[FlashUNC]

They're cool, but I'd just stick with what Giro makes themselves.


They'd have to go a long way to out comfortable my Specialized S-Works.


Good on them for trying something.

[witcombusa]

Make it stop......

[firerescuefin]

Make it stop......

This is like the 4th time I've agreed with you this week. :confused:

Should I be concerned...perhaps you've got a Di2 grouppo on order you're going to hang on one of those vintage steeds. ;)

[AngryScientist]

The shoes are made by Giro. They make shoes.

TMB - that's precisely my point. If i want Giro shoes, i'll buy Giro shoes.

[jr59]

I like them as well.

Not that I think they will fit, nothing else Rapha makes does, or why should there shoes. :mad:

[Lovetoclimb]

I'm with Old Potatoe . . . I feel sorry for the yaks. The same problem arises when I consider the Fizik shoes that seem to be flying under the radar ( poor kangaroos ). Veganism has influenced my clothing choices it would seem.

Our team got a Giro sponsorship this year and we mostly ride the Rapha Condor Factors. Nice colourway, but I would not say as a shoe it is better than the Ergo 2s I had previously. Much more cost effective though! And with heat mold insoles it makes them above average.

On the RGT shoe, Nick Legan from VN alread has a review up. He draws some nice comparisons.

[Lovetoclimb]

Also my vote is for lucky number 7 . . .

[BumbleBeeDave]

i'll go with 5.

unless you start talking about the $600 assos fugu winter tights too, then i'll say 9 min., with personal insults and a mention of obama and monetary policy in there somewhere.

This is gonna be FUN! My trigger finger is just itchin'! . . . :banana:

BBD

[54ny77]

yak meat soup in the front, and a hyde party in the back.

http://kekexili.typepad.com/life_on_the_tibetan_plate/images/yak_meat_in_kham_1.jpg

[Elefantino]

Yak leather baseball gloves.

http://www.wilson.com/servlet/resize/330370/390/390/WTA1500BBBW38_018_Main/

[jmoore]

Rapha's designs are understated and I generally like them. These are no exception. I'm not splashing out $450 for shoes without trying them on, but they look good.

I'd like to see them in black. The solid white would get obliterated pretty quick.

The Dromarti's look very nice as well.

[Earl Gray]

I like them as well.

Not that I think they will fit, nothing else Rapha makes does, or why should there shoes. :mad:


True Dat.

I love the look but I'm way to cheap. Maybe $250

[gdw]

"I'd like to see them in black. The solid white would get obliterated pretty quick."

They will be available in black with a pretty white stripe. Rapha does not discriminate and supports the slaughter of yaks of all colors, races, religions, creeds, etc.

[Liv2RideHard]

Here comes my future left and right Rapha Shoes....

http://yakpics.com/media/yaks/2010/01/image_24.jpeg





William

just had to comment and contribute to the page count...your pic has me laughing out loud man!

Wouldn't even consider them. Sidi all the way.

[blantonator]

They look great in black too. On my want list.

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3222-62.jpg

[Fixed]

450
i paid that for my merckx complete
cheers

[leftyfreak]

You've got some seriously big feet if you need an entire yak for each foot! Of course, maybe we're only talking about Rapha quality hide and that's why you need two yaks...

Here comes my future left and right Rapha Shoes....

http://yakpics.com/media/yaks/2010/01/image_24.jpeg





William

[jr59]

450
i paid that for my merckx complete
cheers

Well, you need shoes to go a long with the merckx don't ya! :banana:

Side note; How are you doing? Better I hope!

[beeatnik]

i am generally a big fan of Rapha products. all well made and work very well in my experience.

that said, this is not something i would buy. Specialty items, like shoes, IMO are best left to shoe manufacturers, who's specialty is shoes, or at least have a well established shoe program. I happen to love specialized shoes, more-so than Sidi.

these are such a niche item, that there is really no way to know how they fit, and there will be little meaningful feedback on them as far as reviews, durability experience etc.

Rapha makes great bibs, jerseys, jackets - but when it comes to shoes, jeans, belts, etc - i'll pass.

they somehow get their gloves or mitts right. best i've ever used. they might have a nice relationship with their leather goods peeps. so, based on my experience with their gloves, I would expect these shoes to be one of their best products.

[54ny77]

"If they didn't taste so good I would keep one as a pet."
– Alexis Yamokoski, Director of Research for Cult Marketing"

http://aboutyaks.com/faks.html

:D

[CunegoFan]

Going back to leather shoes is like going back to natural chamois.

[jr59]

Going back to leather shoes is like going back to natural chamois.

OMG!!! You are right!!! Like using a Brooks saddle! :eek: :banana:

[CunegoFan]

OMG!!! You are right!!! Like using a Brooks saddle! :eek: :banana:
Rain + Brooks = Ass Hatchet

Maybe Rapha will make special plastic bags to be used cover your shoes during rain.

Personally I prefer my shoes to be made out of a strange leather-like material that will still be going strong when the last cockroach dies off.

[William]

You've got some seriously big feet if you need an entire yak for each foot! Of course, maybe we're only talking about Rapha quality hide and that's why you need two yaks...


Actually, my friends used to kid around with me saying: "The only way William can get shoes for his feet is to find a couple of cows, stick his feet up their arses, and walk around until he wears the nubs off." :)







William

[tuxbailey]

They look so....



formal.

[DRZRM]

Oh dammit, every time I want to participate in the Rapha bashing, I realize that I actually want the item being lampooned. I did really think the silk bandana was ridiculous, but these look great. That said, I got two pairs of the Lake custom fit carbons made with kangaroo leather with Speedplay drilling when Nashbar was dumping them at around 80% off of MSRP (one white one black :banana: ) so it will be some time before I'm looking for new shoes. Maybe these will be on clearance by then.

They look great in black too. On my want list.

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3222-62.jpg

[Fixed]

they look great
classic looks
cheers imho

[Louis]

I'm a Sidi guy and Lorica works perfectly well for me.

I'm also a vegetarian, and any time I can easily avoid a product that makes it more profitable to kill an animal I'm happy to do so. Sometimes it's tough to do that with shoes, and I'm not a Nazi about it (my Danners are leather) but when there's a perfectly serviceable non-animal based alternative I use it. (Of course petroleum-based is not perfect either, but that's a different story.)

[EDS]

These shoes are going to be perfect for the discerning cyclist with artfully curated facial hair on their epic rides to the coffee shop.

[Rueda Tropical]

They look great. I like kangaroo leather for these types of shoes so I'd imagine Yak leather would be very nice. I'd give the styling edge to the Dromati leathers but the Giro made Rapha's look like they have a lower stack height and are a more technical / functional build.

That said I'm going with the Bonts -don't look nearly as nice but much lower stack height, come in wide widths, are feather light and I can get a custom sole with the right foot shimmed so I can throw out my squeaky plastic shims under my right cleat. Function over styling especially when it comes to saddles, shoes, chamois and bars.

[fiamme red]

Didn't know Yaks came in white with little holes in them...hair holes?

I feel sorry for the Yaks.I just can't picture oldpotatoe in a Rapha workshop apron. ;)

http://www.rapha.cc/workshop-apron

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/1954-20.jpg

[Jaq]

Rapha's designs are understated and I generally like them. These are no exception. I'm not splashing out $450 for shoes without trying them on, but they look good.

I'd like to see them in black. The solid white would get obliterated pretty quick.

The Dromarti's look very nice as well.

Well, I'm late to the party, and the black pair's been posted, but I just got back from the local Rapha store in Los Angeles (Bike Effect). They mentioned the two colors. They weren't sure of the price 450 or 499. Basically a 500 dollar pair of shoes. Only three or four Rapha people have them at the moment; the stores will get them in at the beginning of April.

[Nooch]

listen, yeah, you're paying the premium for the name, but just look at all the attention to detail, from packaging, to inclusion of care cream and instructions.... for upper echelon buyers who can afford these luxuries, they're just that..

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/03/introducing-the-rapha-grand-tour-shoes/

[akelman]

I'm not a Nazi about it

Good thing, too. I think making cycling footwear* out of Jews would be a bit over the top.**

* I originally had "shoes out of Jews", but that seemed offensive.

** My mom is a Holocaust survivor, so I'm allowed to make this joke.***

*** Unless I'm not, in which case a mod should feel free to delete it.

[akelman]

Also, as with every Rapha item I've tried, I bet those shoes are great. Unfortunately, they're too pricey for me. Still, if they're ever deeply discounted, I'd buy a pair of the black ones in half a heartbeat.

[Matt-H]

Also, as with every Rapha item I've tried, I bet those shoes are great. Unfortunately, they're too pricey for me. Still, if they're ever deeply discounted, I'd buy a pair of the black ones in half a heartbeat.


Yup. I'd love those in black, just not at that price.

[Louis]

^^^^ I was thinking more of a Seinfeld + soup line reference, but agree that that's a loaded term that is sometimes best avoided. Perhaps I should have done so.

[akelman]

You certainly didn't offend me.

[leftyfreak]

Or leave the nubs on and use them as football cleats...
Actually, my friends used to kid around with me saying: "The only way William can get shoes for his feet is to find a couple of cows, stick his feet up their arses, and walk around until he wears the nubs off." :)







William

[pdmtong]

Also, as with every Rapha item I've tried, I bet those shoes are great. Unfortunately, they're too pricey for me. Still, if they're ever deeply discounted, I'd buy a pair of the black ones in half a heartbeat.

The Rapha Grand Tour Shoes will be available on Tuesday, April 10 through Rapha.cc and these North American retailers:

La Bicicletta Pro Shop – Vancouver
Studio Velo – Mill Valley, CA
Rapha Cycle Club – SF, CA
Bike Effect – Santa Monica,
Contender Bicycles – SLC, UT
Signature Cycles – NYC

Even 40% off is still $300 with CA tax...and we won't see 40% off even on oddball sizes for years. Got a 20% coupon? Still $360....Guess I'll continue pedalling on the $200 ergo 2's from our forum buy a few years ago.

The pictures look interestign to me, but I'd still need to see in person before knowing if I like it. I get the toe strap reference, but unless told, I wouldnt have made the connection. Like the white over the black for now. we'll see. when the RCC in SF or SV in mill valley I'll get a chance to try them on....yak yak yak.....

also, as far as fit I can;t find a place to try Giro/Mavic/fizik shoes on. so who knows if these are even a consideration.

yakkity yak, don't talk back....

[pdmtong]

listen, yeah, you're paying the premium for the name, but just look at all the attention to detail, from packaging, to inclusion of care cream and instructions.... for upper echelon buyers who can afford these luxuries, they're just that..

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/03/introducing-the-rapha-grand-tour-shoes/

damn, even the box and packaging is epic-ally cool

[fiamme red]

listen, yeah, you're paying the premium for the name, but just look at all the attention to detail, from packaging, to inclusion of care cream and instructions.... for upper echelon buyers who can afford these luxuries, they're just that..

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/03/introducing-the-rapha-grand-tour-shoes/They also come with a label about Fausto Coppi's long, thin legs and aquiline nose. :rolleyes:

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3222-12.jpg

[Elefantino]

Only 5 pages on this so far?

We can do better.

[bobswire]

Rapha eat your heart out or imitation sincerest form of flattery >
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Campitello-Italy-Vintage-Cycling-Shoes-44-NOS-NIB-Retro-Eroica-/320862952239?pt=US_Men_s_Athletic_Footwear&hash=item4ab4ec1b2f

[pdmtong]

Only 5 pages on this so far?

We can do better.

I think we did do better when the subject was the rapha coffee machine.

[sevencyclist]

I will wait for a pink version before getting the Yak.

[jemoryl]

When I first saw them I thought they were a cross between a Nalini Kraken and the Fizik shoes.

Yeah, Giro has a long history of making shoes. I'd love to visit the Giro shoe factory!

[fiamme red]

I don't think the $90 Rapha belt has been mentioned here yet. :)

http://www.rapha.cc/belt

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3154-01.jpg

[Louis]

I don't think the $90 Rapha belt has been mentioned here yet. :)

Nor the gloves.

[pdmtong]

Nor the gloves.

actually, the pro tour gloves, when on sale, are pretty damn nice. Paid $40 for mine...which is far cheaper than any other leather glove you might find (giro lusso, etc)

[EDS]

When I first saw them I thought they were a cross between a Nalini Kraken and the Fizik shoes.

Yeah, Giro has a long history of making shoes. I'd love to visit the Giro shoe factory!

Giro has been making shoes for 2 years?

[bozman]

Billy White Shoes Johnson approved.

[Viper]

They also come with a label about Fausto Coppi's long, thin legs and aquiline nose. :rolleyes:

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3222-12.jpg

I'm not someone who'd picket or protest, I'd tackle an issue with words, speeches. But I swear to Chr*st, I'd like to Occupy the parking lot of Rapha, make tents and campfires for all, while we burn bras and Rapha jerseys. That Coppi ditty in their shoes forced me to post. How weak.

I play Titleist bladed irons and equipment. As a +5 hcp it's my choice to play pure stuff. The day Titleist released a $400.00 driver, their normal price, with an inscription about Jack Nicklaus' oiled wrists, firm forearms, fluid swing with golden locks of hair...the Marketing Division at Titleist would be fired. How in heck does Rapha go so cheesingly over the top, yet people buy it and Rapha endorses it? Who the heck would buy those shoes with that Coppi bs enscribed?

[54ny77]

http://knithacker.com/html/knithacker/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/will_fareel.jpg

[akelman]

How in heck does Rapha go so cheesingly over the top, yet people buy it and Rapha endorses it? Who the heck would buy those shoes with that Coppi bs enscribed?

Because, as almost everyone who's tried it will tell you, their stuff works really well. As for me, I wait for sales or buy used, and I never read the marketing mumbo-jumbo. That said, some day they'll write folk songs about my skinny calves. I just know they will.

[Lovetoclimb]

Rapha eat your heart out or imitation sincerest form of flattery >
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Campitello-Italy-Vintage-Cycling-Shoes-44-NOS-NIB-Retro-Eroica-/320862952239?pt=US_Men_s_Athletic_Footwear&hash=item4ab4ec1b2f

"Straight from the past times!"

That comment alone sold me. Wrong size unfortunately.

And edit (broke the 6 page barrier!) :banana: :banana:

[Viper]

Going to buy a MUGATU sweater.
Rapha shoes.
And this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/56cm-mens-road-touring-bike-bicycle-tour-de-france-/260968251127?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3cc2eb7ef7

With that Coppi ditty inside their new shoes, Rapha has jumped the Fred.

Quote me.

[54ny77]

Get your groove on whilst rocking the yak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps6wRHFdKdA&feature=related


Going to buy a MUGATU sweater.
Rapha shoes.
And this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/56cm-mens-road-touring-bike-bicycle-tour-de-france-/260968251127?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3cc2eb7ef7

With that Coppi ditty inside their new shoes, Rapha has jumped the Fred.

Quote me.

[Jaq]

How in heck does Rapha go so cheesingly over the top, yet people buy it and Rapha endorses it? Who the heck would buy those shoes with that Coppi bs enscribed?

You never heard of J. Peterman?

I was in the Rapha store this morning and drooling over the Irish jersey and the gal - who couldn't have been sweeter - was trying to entice me to buy some things and she said "and every Rapha item has a story attached, see?" and she flipped out a pocket inside-out and showed me.

"Sure," I said, "Rapha's like the J. Peterman of cycling."

She sorta looked at me a moment and I almost thought her expression was "gee, maybe that's not such a good thing after all."

[CunegoFan]

You never heard of J. Peterman?

I was in the Rapha store this morning and drooling over the Irish jersey and the gal - who couldn't have been sweeter - was trying to entice me to buy some things and she said "and every Rapha item has a story attached, see?" and she flipped out a pocket inside-out and showed me.

"Sure," I said, "Rapha's like the J. Peterman of cycling."

She sorta looked at me a moment and I almost thought her expression was "gee, maybe that's not such a good thing after all."
That is what I cannot get over. It's all so phony. While every company has a dubious line of marketing speak used to sell their goods, there is a point where it becomes laughable or even insulting to the intelligence of customer. It is a matter of degree. That point is where it is impossible to discern the difference between the marketing and a parody of the marketing. A case in point is Assos. I do love Assos' gear, but the website they set up to promote their new sunglasses could have been set up by someone as a spoof. With Rapha their whole image is a parody. I cannot tell whether they are making fun of themselves or making fun of their customers. I have visions of cynical image merchants laughing it up as they read to each other the latest bit ad copy they intend to push on the muppets.

[Viper]

You never heard of J. Peterman?

I was in the Rapha store this morning and drooling over the Irish jersey and the gal - who couldn't have been sweeter - was trying to entice me to buy some things and she said "and every Rapha item has a story attached, see?" and she flipped out a pocket inside-out and showed me.

"Sure," I said, "Rapha's like the J. Peterman of cycling."

She sorta looked at me a moment and I almost thought her expression was "gee, maybe that's not such a good thing after all."

I did not know about their Irish Jersey. Okay. Alright, well, umm, I might make an exception...maybe it'd be okay to buy their jerseys. :D :banana: :D

[benitosan1972]

i'm posting & adding nothing right now, just trying to help the thread move to page 7 :banana:

[kceb_cire]

I think people who hate on rapha haven't tried any of their stuff.
If you buy it on sale, its the same price as anything else, but looks better, and works just as well, if not better.
Their wool jerseys are amazing, and their bibs are the most comfortable I own.

[wc1934]

They don't do anything for me - imho they are pretty bland - big question is how do they perform - If you see the pros wearing them then you know.

[beeatnik]

I play Titleist bladed irons and equipment. As a +5 hcp it's my choice to play pure stuff. The day Titleist released a $400.00 driver, their normal price, with an inscription about Jack Nicklaus' oiled wrists, firm forearms, fluid swing with golden locks of hair...the Marketing Division at Titleist would be fired. How in heck does Rapha go so cheesingly over the top, yet people buy it and Rapha endorses it? Who the heck would buy those shoes with that Coppi bs enscribed?

I hear ya. And in golf, when you take up the game, you learn the history as you learn the rules. One really can't become a golfer outside the great legacy of the game's past. Context. And, yet, the products are the product and the marketing is the technology.

Ah, Titleist bladed irons. Their streamlined beauty. Remember when Callaway first brought out their oversized irons? I wouldn't have played them even if they could have made me a single digit.

[jemoryl]

Giro has been making shoes for 2 years?

That was sarcasm. For those who implied that Rapha shoes should be OK because they were made by an outfit with experience in shoes....

[Fiertetimestwo]

Three things to keep the party moving along-

1. The label "stories" are generally poxy- although in my Rapha Tour of Britain jersey purchased on sale (my favourite jersey by a long shot) the label/story is a map of the route of the 2005 Tour of Britain so it's quite cool- but they are hidden away inside the jersey pockets, and I would assume, inside the shoes - so nobody need know;

2. I had a pair of Carnac mountain bike shoes made out of kangaroo leather for over 20 years- they were great; and

3. When I was trekking in Nepal in 1993 we would had over yak steaks at the end of the trek - they were pretty tough, but still good after three weeks of rice and dhal.

That is all. Carry on.

[weiwentg]

I don't think the $90 Rapha belt has been mentioned here yet. :)

http://www.rapha.cc/belt

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3154-01.jpg

Actually, I'd pay $90 for a high quality leather belt. But then their description says "The belt fits Rapha Trousers and Rapha Jeans." I must not be cool enough, then.

[bking]

big question is how do they perform - If you see the pros wearing them then you know.
you "see" the pros wearing it you know one thing, they were PAID to wear it.

I understand there's a big Rapha bashing contingent here, and i can see they may set themselves up for it. But i'm another who can endorse the quality of thier product, regardless of how they choose to market themselves. the classic bib short is made from angels hair (could be fausto) i believe, then sent from there by ups direct to my door...amazing garment....

If i were to throw rocks at someones marketing scheme, it would be Assos. but that's an ot.

[Viper]

If anyone wants to buy non-Rapha, but misses and wants a "product tag storyline", let me know. I'll write one. I already have ideas. Instead of Coppi, for skin ointments, I am leaning towards Cheryl Ladd for a label story. For summer, lightweight jerseys, Farrah and for a smart, all-around, conservative, wise product-purchase, Jaclyn Smith

[wooly]

That said, some day they'll write folk songs about my skinny calves. I just know they will.

Ari, dint know you were a farmer. Better start feedin them steer. PETA will be picketing soon.

[wooly]

And, bada bing, here's page 7! :hello:

[weiwentg]

Ari, dint know you were a farmer. Better start feedin them steer. PETA will be picketing soon.

apparently he's an abusive farmer who also hoards Record chains

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=104967

:no: :no: :no:

[benitosan1972]

And, bada bing, here's page 7! :hello:

Dare I predict a page 8? Let's talk about the $80 scarf again ;)

[cat6]

I think people who hate on rapha haven't tried any of their stuff.
If you buy it on sale, its the same price as anything else, but looks better, and works just as well, if not better.
Their wool jerseys are amazing, and their bibs are the most comfortable I own.

Let's shoot for page 8. I'll contribute by saying that I've owned plenty of Rapha, and would not buy anymore. The cost didn't justify the quality IMO, pretty packaging and savvy marketing fools a lot of folks though. Not to say the products I've owned were/are junk, they were nice. Just not worth the coin. It's embarrassing to see grown men fall over themselves to buy someone's used bib. Gross!

I was an earlier(ish) adopter, then felt like a bit of a fool as time went on. Similar to the way I feel like a fool for saving my pennies and buying Nike's/Jordan's when I was a teenager.

NO Rapha hate here, just tried/used and decided it's not for me going forward.

I hope whoever buys these shoes enjoys them tremendously, I'm sure they're just fine.

[Louis]

Some of you guys are obviously putzs who will remain insufficiently hip and hopelessly uncool for the rest of your collective lives.

The only way for me to avoid a similarly horrible fate is to run out and buy as much Rapha gear as I can find, price be damned. In fact, the more expensive the better.

Anyone care to recommend a gilet?

[Lovetoclimb]

Somehow the 4 cyclists I have talked to about the shoes have completely missed the yak leather material bit. That was the first thing that caught my eye. Must be the attempts I make to avoid leather. When I drew the Fizik / Kangaroo leather comparison, a teammate who spent some years down under said roos are like deer in Aus, all over. Just extremely curious I guess how accessible yak hide is. Those animals have long life spans . . .

[54ny77]

Yes, Pearl Izumi, I just bought one this afternoon. I call it a vest, however, because a gilet sounds like something I'd slather with gravy and wash down with beer.

When I bought the Pearl Izumi vest, I did not hear Ralpha-like epic music from Explosions in the Sky or envision myself randonneuring at speed over gravely roads in the Sherwood Forest, all whilst shrouded in mysterious fog.

I did, however, hear a very annoying lady attempting to win an Oscar for her portrayal as a Royal B&%ch with a polite and patient shop employee, along with her screaming kids running around out of control all over the place.

BRING ON PAGE NINE, BABY!!!!!



Anyone care to recommend a gilet?

[Louis]

I call it a vest, however, because a gilet sounds like something I'd slather with gravy and wash down with beer.

You'll eventually learn: pretentious is good.

[dave thompson]

Some of you guys are obviously putzs who will remain insufficiently hip and hopelessly uncool for the rest of your collective lives.

The only way for me to avoid a similarly horrible fate is to run out and buy as much Rapha gear as I can find, price be damned. In fact, the more expensive the better.

Anyone care to recommend a gill net?
There, I fixed it for you.

[Louis]

There, I fixed it for you.

Dave, for you, a refined sophisticate, I recommend this one:

http://www.cattlekate.com/public/store/products/fullsize/paisley_drover.jpg

[dave thompson]

Some of you guys are obviously putzs who will remain insufficiently hip and hopelessly uncool for the rest of your collective lives.

The only way for me to avoid a similarly horrible fate is to run out and buy as much Rapha gear as I can find, price be damned. In fact, the more expensive the better.

Anyone care to recommend a gillette?
There, I fixed it for you . Again

[54ny77]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WAEWMQR1Evs/TQwVQ7bUfoI/AAAAAAAAGLs/29wUYBLCgEM/s1600/Jeff_Blouin3.jpg

[Louis]

There, I fixed it for you . Again


http://www.tzknives.com/site/Photos/StraightRazor2.jpg

[Jaq]

Oh. Are we talking about damascus stuff now, or just ridiculously overpriced stuff? Either way....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Lefever_Grade_G_Damascus_Barrels.jpg

[Viper]

Missed or overlooked is this:

http://www.rapha.cc/bicycle/

Pacific northwest crowd. The 603/617 crowd. Cinelli Italian. Chris King. Any time I see some former pro or wannabe lovin' Rapha, I look back at their history with the bicycling companies above. Endorsements have a $$$tag and sometimes honor is cheap.

A pair of City Hipster Trousers for $240.00? Everyone needs a $60.00 Racing Diary. :banana:

Each of these bicycles are unique to our partnership with the four builders and will be offered for no more than two years. The bicycles all share a Rapha color palette that has been interpreted by the makers. All boast a custom Rapha headbadge that was inspired by the serial plate of the Rapha H-Van.

[Jason E]

Actually, I'd pay $90 for a high quality leather belt. But then their description says "The belt fits Rapha Trousers and Rapha Jeans." I must not be cool enough, then.

That just means if your waist is more than 28", you need two belts.

;)

[Louis]

Oh. Are we talking about damascus stuff now, or just ridiculously overpriced stuff? Either way....

You know you're in the right place and on the right wavelength when folks get your obscure references and why they are relevant to the matter at hand. :)

[fiamme red]

Buy a Rapha "city wind jacket," and you too can climb like Pantani. You don't need drugs, just lots of watermelon and San Pellegrino. :p

http://www.rapha.cc/city-wind-jacket

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3067-06.jpg

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3067-18.jpg

[54ny77]

That is, truly, absurd.

http://www.rapha.cc/city-wind-jackethttp://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3067-06.jpg

[tiretrax]

I love the damascuss photos, and I love these shoes. When they go on sale and I have a coupon and my Sidi's have died, I may try some. Rapha products are great for those of you that have never had any. The bibs are the best I've had for a century ride, and the jerseys are fantastic. I also have a soft shell (which is warm but is no good in the rain, a windbreaker (which works great in the Texas winter with a jersey or in a light spring rain) and a gilet (which fits better than the Pearl Izumi that flaps around). Yes, it's pretentious, but their kit performs better than any other I own.

I have old kangaroo shoes with leather soles that I bough when I started cycling decades ago. They still look great, although they are now too small. The Dromartis take me back to that youthful time. The Rapha's, too.

At first glance, I thought they were made by Fizik. Those are in the same price range. Beautiful shoes. Tempting, but too wide for me. This went from 5 to 8 pages when I started reading it. Did we get to 9 yet?

It's hard to spend the bucks for these when there are so many that work and are easy to find for <$200 on sale. But, no need to hate on Rapha, especially from folks who will buy a custom frame or carbon wheels - even used.

[ckamp]

I think the forum has advertised for Rapha by bringing the viewers to 2300+ in a few days.

[cat6]

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3067-18.jpg
"I've found my asymetrical hairstyle allows me more aero if I tilt my head to the right while going east in to the headwind."

"That's great, but I'm on my $5k porteur bike, hence my non-aero shades. These things really catch wind."


Cool.

[benitosan1972]

haha, mash

[Elefantino]

Buy a Rapha "city wind jacket," and you too can climb like Pantani. You don't need drugs, just lots of watermelon and San Pellegrino. :p

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3067-06.jpg
I WANT ONE.

Is there a matching bandana?

[Viper]

Rapha takes poseurism to such a level. If we know what a Fred is, I'd liken a Raphian to be a Bradley.

[jpw]

The Google search results page now tags Rapha as an "Online Emporium".

Is there really no rude word that rhymes with 'rapha'?

It's all just a bit too Kool for this Kat.

[Climb01742]

say what you will...

8 pages of discussion...

rapha wins.

[akelman]

say what you will...

8 pages of discussion...

rapha wins.

Dead right. I'm pretty sure Viper is actually on the Rapha payroll.

[Viper]

Dead right. I'm pretty sure Viper is actually on the Rapha payroll.

:beer:

The only real danger is Rapha itself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wop91_Gvwos

Rapha knows and you better know it and if you don't, learn it, but don't pretend you know Rapha. Go on vacation with your Rapha and romp with Rapha. It's rough and tumble, it's wild and wooly, their wool jerseys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWgUPHVEcl0&feature=related


:D

[akelman]

How did you move that comment, Viper? You must have used the Rapha Space-Time Discontinuity Device. Cool.

[54ny77]

NINE, BABY!

i'll go with 5.

unless you start talking about the $600 assos fugu winter tights too, then i'll say 9 min., with personal insults and a mention of obama and monetary policy in there somewhere.

[Viper]

How did you move that comment, Viper? You must have used the Rapha Space-Time Discontinuity Device. Cool.

Improving cycling conditions.
Fabric Ethics.
Caring till it hurts.
Looking at the world.
Wild and wooly.
Uncompromisingly.
Rapha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

:beer:

[Louis]

say what you will...

8 pages of discussion...

rapha wins.

I don't see it this way.

Unless Rapha has sunk to Paris Hilton - like lows, where they're simply famous for being famous, I can't imagine that this sort of discussion is a net positive. If it is, and Rapha gains more than they loose despite all the negative stuff said about them, then I've seriously over-estimated the ability of Paceline forumites to resist the siren call of shallow poseurism.

[Hank Scorpio]

Fizik had a booth at the nj endurance expo yesterday. I was unaware that they were in the shoe game until I saw them in person. They looked pretty nice in person with generally muted color schemes similar to rapha. I didn't try them on but if I was in the shoe market I would give them a serious look.

[djg]

Some of you guys are obviously putzs who will remain insufficiently hip and hopelessly uncool for the rest of your collective lives.

The only way for me to avoid a similarly horrible fate is to run out and buy as much Rapha gear as I can find, price be damned. In fact, the more expensive the better.

Anyone care to recommend a gilet?

Trac 2 disposable? Not very green, but they're cheap and work fine.

[jonnyBgood]

Well...I have the Specialized S-Works road shoes that retail for $360 and they have been the best shoes I have ever ridden. I own three pair of them now.

-One year warranty on manufactures defects
-LIFETIME warranty on stitching (I have had a pair that the stitching came undone around one of the Boa dials and Specialized gave me a new pair.
-LIFETIME warranty on BAO system

I have actually put the shoes in the wash machine to clean them as I got caught in a pretty good rain storm and the shoes were dirty as hell. Since they are synthetic no worries at all. I took the insoles out and threw in four bath towels and when done stuffed them with newspaper to help dry and the shoes look brand new again.

I can imagine if the Rapha shoes get wet they will never fit the same again :eek: and in Colorado we get a lot of afternoon rain storms during the summer.

[akelman]

Every time my yak gets caught out in the rain, his skin stretches at the elbows. But then we toss him in the drier, and everything's okay. Until the next rain storm, that is, when this vicious cycle begins anew.

(Important point of fact: do yaks have elbows?)

[TMB]

Well...I have the Specialized S-Works road shoes that retail for $360 and they have been the best shoes I have ever ridden. I own three pair of them now.

-One year warranty on manufactures defects
-LIFETIME warranty on stitching (I have had a pair that the stitching came undone around one of the Boa dials and Specialized gave me a new pair.
-LIFETIME warranty on BAO system

I have actually put the shoes in the wash machine to clean them as I got caught in a pretty good rain storm and the shoes were dirty as hell. Since they are synthetic no worries at all. I took the insoles out and threw in four bath towels and when done stuffed them with newspaper to help dry and the shoes look brand new again.

I can imagine if the Rapha shoes get wet they will never fit the same again :eek: and in Colorado we get a lot of afternoon rain storms during the summer.

Do you honestly believe that those of us who grew up before synthetic shoes had to buy new shoes every time it rained?

[akelman]

I sometimes had to buy new shoes twice or even three times in a single day, Jim. It was awful. But not as awful as a yak with soggy elbows. I wonder if I can have my yak's hide replaced with a synthetic skin.

[jonnyBgood]

Do you honestly believe that those of us who grew up before synthetic shoes had to buy new shoes every time it rained?

I didn't say anything about buying a new pair after every ride but....I'm sure after the first ride caught in the rain the shoes will never fit the same and they will look like crap...and yes looks do mean something.. :D

Of course I have never ridden anything but synthetic shoes and I have been riding road bikes since I was 20 and I'll be 41 this year.

[William]

I sometimes had to buy new shoes twice or even three times in a single day, Jim. It was awful. But not as awful as a yak with soggy elbows. I wonder if I can have my yak's hide replaced with a synthetic skin.

I go through two Yaks a day when it's raining out. ~And~, I have to re-enforce them at the elbows....weak you know. ;)




William

[akelman]

I go through two Yaks a day when it's raining out. ~And~, I have to re-enforce them at the elbows....weak you know.

A two-yak-a-day habit is a sign of a real problem, William, and very expensive to boot. You might want to try quitting. I hear hypnosis works.

[William]

....You might want to try quitting. I hear hypnosis works.

Cold turkey for me (but the tryptophan makes me sleepy).





William

[fiamme red]

http://www.rapha.cc/pro-team-base-layer

A base layer created for training in hot conditions and for elite-level racing... The short sleeve version carries the legend, ‘MERCI ROUBAIX’, in honour of Franco Ballerini’s memorable sign-off after his final Paris-Roubaix in 2001. The sleeveless version reads ‘VOUS ÊTES DES ASSASSINS’, the famous exhortation from Octave Lapize after his 191o ascent of the Col d’Aubisque.

:rolleyes: :p :no:

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3077-31.jpg

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3077-30.jpg

[Viper]

That base layer is so hardcore poseur. Do people really wear this stuff? Who? I wear a tee shirt or tank top on most summer rides. I should get in on some Rapha men's ride. I think I'd do it nude. Alright, maybe some socks.

[jonnyBgood]

Really? Are you guys serious? I bet that t-shirt is soaking wet when you are riding during the summer :confused:

I wear a base layer EVERY TIME I ride...if it's 100 degrees out or if it's 20 degrees out. Different thicknesses for different types of weather.

I don't have any Rapha baselayers but...I do have about EIGHT different Craft baselayers.

They work in keeping your core regulated wether your climbing or riding flats or descending. Period. Not a sweaty t-shirt that is wet so you are cold then hot then cold :no:

[christian]

Do people really wear this stuff?Don't know if you mean Rapha or mesh base layers? I do wear mesh base layers, which I think are exceptionally good for cycling.

I prefer these, which are 80% merino wool and are solid knit over the shoulders, in case you're wearing a pack:
http://www.brynje.no/norwegian/classic_original_tshirt.html

For the right price (~ $30-40), I would certainly wear the Rapha one. But I'm a Ballerini fan, too. And though I like to rag on the silliness that Rapha embodies as much as the next guy, I will admit that I wore my Pegoretti Rapha jersey on Saturday, and really, it's a pretty good jersey. For the clearance Competitive Cyclist price, I'd buy another...

[christian]

Actually, the addition of lycra panels on the sides is pretty cool. I admit the lettering is a bit silly, but I bet these baselayers will work the business.

[Jaq]

Mesh chafes my nipples.

I thought you'd all want to know.

[54ny77]

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=14247633

[Viper]

I own a few base layers. I use them once in a while. They are dirt cheap. I wanna go to an 80s club with the mesh. Mesh shirts are so hot right now.

[akelman]

Mesh chafes my nipples.

I thought you'd all want to know.

On yaks? Because that's all I care about at this point.

[William]

How timely....

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/398403_260033250741030_116977841713239_599570_1403 328050_n.jpg

To the gentleman wearing the black Rapha jersey who just passed me going the opposite direction near my house: I know I'm riding my MTB but that doesn't mean a friendly wave back couldn't hurt you. Tell you what, I'll be watching for you and have my Zank ready so the next time you go by I'll be in my Roadie guise, we can ride for a bit and chat....before I rip your legs off. :D




William :)

[Grant McLean]

I wouldn't be caught dead in one of these

That one because of the silly printing, or base layers in general,
or something else about those in particular?

I never ride without a base layer under the bib straps.

-g

[fiamme red]

That one because of the silly printing, or base layers in general,
or something else about those in particular?

I never ride without a base layer under the bib straps.

-gThe silly printing. And the idea of paying extra for the silly printing.

I don't generally wear base layers on hot days, but then again, I wear shorts, not bibs.

[Grant McLean]

The silly printing. And the idea of paying extra for the silly printing.


it's pretty silly!

Plus, it might get that tanned onto you at the beach.

-g

[christian]

Oh, it's very silly, but these are actually a product where there is no other cycling-specific substitute. I can't hate on them. :eek:

[Jaq]

Rapha manufacturing moves to China.

Chinese Olympic athletes eat Yak meat as part of 2012 Olympic training diet. (http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/olympians-raise-own-food-fearing-conventional-meat/)

Rapha announces new shoes.

Coincidence? I think not!

[EDS]

Oh, it's very silly, but these are actually a product where there is no other cycling-specific substitute. I can't hate on them. :eek:

Huh? There are legions of cycling specific mesh base layers.

[saab2000]

Rapha manufacturing moves to China.

Chinese Olympic athletes eat Yak meat as part of 2012 Olympic training diet. (http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/olympians-raise-own-food-fearing-conventional-meat/)

Rapha announces new shoes.

Coincidence? I think not!

POTD!

[54ny77]

I usually say that about 2-3 hours after eating at the halal chicken stand in midtown at 55th st. & 6th ave...but it tastes so good prior. :banana:

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/olympians-raise-own-food-fearing-conventional-meat/

"...it is risky to eat at a street restaurant."

[christian]

Huh? There are legions of cycling specific mesh base layers.
Really? Perhaps my Internet-Fu is weak, but I only know about the Castelli and Craft ones, both of which are far too closed a mesh to work optimally. Links to others much appreciated! (Totally serious; no snark!)

[54ny77]

i decry the lack of machismo with all this talk of mesh undergarments.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9kHmmExUD6c/TMbrrRIIDwI/AAAAAAAABsk/AHxJhSvFC-E/s400/CIPOLLINI2.jpg

[EDS]

Really? Perhaps my Internet-Fu is weak, but I only know about the Castelli and Craft ones, both of which are far too closed a mesh to work optimally. Links to others much appreciated! (Totally serious; no snark!)

No links, but I have descente, craft and hincapie in my drawer at home, by way of example.

[Viper]

i decry the lack of machismo with all this talk of mesh undergarments.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9kHmmExUD6c/TMbrrRIIDwI/AAAAAAAABsk/AHxJhSvFC-E/s400/CIPOLLINI2.jpg

Word. Riding without a jersey and just a pair of cut off denim jeans is where it's at.

PS: I confess. I have some Rapha Underoos and I wear them to bed. Sometimes.

:beer:

[fiamme red]

Really? Perhaps my Internet-Fu is weak, but I only know about the Castelli and Craft ones, both of which are far too closed a mesh to work optimally. Links to others much appreciated! (Totally serious; no snark!)How about this?

http://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?page=8&description=Un+D+Shirt+Sleeveless&vendorCode=DEFEET&major=4&minor=13

Again, it's not that I have anything against mesh or base layers. But if I'm wearing an undershirt that says "Merci Roubaix," the only jersey that would be appropriate to wear over it would be this:

http://www.elevengear.us/images/poseur/poseur-J.jpg

[christian]

Sorry guys, even though those undershirts are "mesh," they are not (Descente, Craft, DeFeet) open like the Brynje net shirts. When Rapha blows these out at 2 for $60, I'm going to stock up. While I'm at it, I'll probably get a C40 and a Mapei hat, too!

[benitosan1972]

Page 11 and we're nowhere near talking about shoes, keep this thing alive guys!

[christian]

Page 11For goodness' sake, change your settings to maximum posts per page. You must be wearing out your mouse button with all the "next page" clicks.

[BumbleBeeDave]

i decry the lack of machismo with all this talk of mesh undergarments.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9kHmmExUD6c/TMbrrRIIDwI/AAAAAAAABsk/AHxJhSvFC-E/s400/CIPOLLINI2.jpg

. . . to make anything in zebra stripes . . . I DARE them!

They don't have the pink yak leather cojones to do it! . . . :no: :D

BBD

[nighthawk]

Not a Rapha hater or lover.... but I just couldn't resist:

[Nooch]

gotta lol.... http://www.rapha.cc/la-moustache-ride-in-pictures

[benb]

I'm starting to think wearing Rapha would get you hit on by other men? :p

Same thing with getting too interested in stuff like shaving & embrocation.

I watched Hell on Wheels recently.. really made me think a lot of the Euro-poseur stuff that is marketed to US cyclists must be pretty far off the mark.

Would Jens Voigt wear this stuff?
Would Chuck Norris?

[velobran]

That base layer is so hardcore poseur. Do people really wear this stuff? Who? I wear a tee shirt or tank top on most summer rides. I should get in on some Rapha men's ride. I think I'd do it nude. Alright, maybe some socks.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz1pkumFF01qacyk6o1_500.jpg

Pros, that's who.

[54ny77]

Abandon on Sunday, sell on Monday?

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz1pkumFF01qacyk6o1_500.jpg

Pros, that's who.

[ckamp]

Not a Rapha hater or lover.... but I just couldn't resist:


HAHA, I took this same photo in Sacramento. I knew it could be used here.

[Viper]

I'm starting to think wearing Rapha would get you hit on by other men? :p

Same thing with getting too interested in stuff like shaving & embrocation.

I watched Hell on Wheels recently.. really made me think a lot of the Euro-poseur stuff that is marketed to US cyclists must be pretty far off the mark.

Would Jens Voigt wear this stuff?
Would Chuck Norris?

benb gets my vote.

Jens wears bib shorts laden with Scotchbrite instead of chamois. He doesn't shave, red lasers from his eyes shoot beams of Intense Pulse Light to remove the hair. When he sees someone wearing Rapha he closes his eyes, holds his breath, unclips both feet, crosses his fingers and says, "Redrum" three times. During Shark Week (July 31st 2012) he'll place a three foot Tiger Shark in his saltwater jacuzzi, drink beer and sing his favorite childhood song, "Camptown Races" in German. The shark, like a pilot fish, will nibble and clean the cuts and scrapes on Jens post-le Tour.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHCEp9wlnuY


The Camptown ladies sing this song,
Doo-da, Doo-da
The Camptown racetrack's five miles long
Oh, de doo-da day

Goin' to run all night
Goin' to run all day
I bet my money on a bob-tailed nag
Somebody bet on the gray

Oh, the long tailed filly and the big black horse,
Doo-da, doo-da
Come to a mud hole and they all cut across,
Oh, de doo-da day

Goin' to run all night
Goin' to run all day
I bet my money on a bob-tailed nag
Somebody bet on the gray

I went down there with my hat caved in,
Doo-da, doo-da
I came back home with a pocket full of tin
Oh, de doo-da day

Goin' to run all night
Goin' to run all day
I bet my money on a bob-tailed nag
Somebody bet on the gray

[nighthawk]

Full disclosure, I just pulled it from the SWRVE blog.

HAHA, I took this same photo in Sacramento. I knew it could be used here.

[FixedNotBroken]

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/men-s-apparel/gloves---short-finger.13.html

This is awesome..purchase two and she $16!

[Viper]

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/men-s-apparel/gloves---short-finger.13.html

This is awesome..purchase two and she $16!

I love the Giro marketing jargon on CC, "If you are not ashamed to admitting to being a bit of a hipster, or you just want to defy the judgmental types and relive your netted-gloved youth, then you can’t go wrong with the Giro LX Gloves. They’re like a fine classic automobile with a gorgeous retro body, but has been completely over-hauled to modern standards on the inside."

admitting to being lol.

:beer:

[christian]

I'll admit to laughing at that, and wanting a pair of those in size L, tan. :)

[Viper]

And thus...this is how you do it:

http://www.rapha.cc/joy-and-lauren

And it is sheer brillance on the part of Rapha; affiliate the company with *causes*, associate yourself with women, poverty and the meek, whilst also getting into the filthy, richy-rich yuppies...you play all angles. You market all sides. You pretend to be all things to all people. You sell tee-shirts with your brand to Occupiers (and you create a sales deal...an Occupier buys 3 shirts and gets the forth for free etc).

Rapha goes into the hearts and minds (and wallets) of New Englanders. And they *care* about women. Why? They want women to buy their stuff.

The million dollar monster, Big Rapha is kewl and why? Cause they care LOL.

Peeps who hate kapitalism, uneven wealth distribution, peeps who wig out about Carbon Footprint would smoke and tug the fumes from the Rapha Mobile:

http://www.rapha.cc/blogs/

Rapha cares about women, hipsters, yuppies, stray dogs and aliens from Mars. Just so long as those women, hipsters, yuppies, stray dogs and aliens fork over the cash and spoon-in the Marketing Spinhype. Rapha is kewl cuz they care. Rapha is great (cause they make me famous or give me money). Rapha is great because if I wear it, then I affiliate myself with the things they "care" about.

Marketing + Rapha =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKx_BTj_-IE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEh5pWjcWCg

:)

[TMB]

It is really time for this thread to be closed.

It is starting to veer into ugly territory, as these threads always do.

Lock it now, please.

[Viper]

It is really time for this thread to be closed.

It is starting to veer into ugly territory, as these threads always do.

Lock it now, please.

Sometimes the truth is ugly.

Things we don't wanna see made...Bills, sausage (and certain elements of Rapha
ala their profits, margin-rates and the causes they "care" about lol).

Truthiness.

:beer:

[TMB]

This last post is an object example of exactly why this thread should be closed.

You just don't know when to stop pushing.

Ignore button.

[Viper]

This last post is an object example of exactly why this thread should be closed.

You just don't know when to stop pushing.

Ignore button.

Sadly, you're making the thread all about you.
I speak about Rapha.
And you speak about me.
And tell me what to do.
Then run to the ignore button.
You're taking Rapha way too seriously and personally.
Can you reply to the post above in a fashion which either advances or disputes my perspective of Rapha?
Speak about Rapha, I did.

[benitosan1972]

Rapha makes nice clothes that are technical, expensive, and fashionable. It is the fashionable part, paired with their slick marketing and grandiose image that makes people hate them. There are alot of other expensive brands that don't get bashed. Rapha, Starbucks, Whole Foods, BMW, and Zipp... people hate the names and images, but there are enough supporters/consumers/customers of these companies to make them ridiculously successful.

[pdmtong]

Here's the size guide...only six more days until on sale
odd...no reference to specialized

[benitosan1972]

^somebody's excited to be the 1st kid on the block... page 20 will talk about how about how wearing Rapha shoes makes the espresso taste better.

[CunegoFan]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/02/article-2123998-126E7555000005DC-565_468x631.jpg

This is the post-epic look. Conan looks hammered.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/02/article-2123998-126E7541000005DC-213_468x619.jpg

That is one big Serotta.

[pdmtong]

^somebody's excited to be the 1st kid on the block... page 20 will talk about how about how wearing Rapha shoes makes the espresso taste better.

someone give me $450+tax and I am all over it. didn't you say you were sponsored by rapha? work it and you can be the first

my ergo 2's work just fine thank you.

[PQJ]

^somebody's excited to be the 1st kid on the block... page 20 will talk about how about how wearing Rapha shoes makes the espresso taste better.

Don't forget that Rapha shoes will make your PC almost as good as a Mac. Almost.

[fiamme red]

This $140 formally-tailored white cycling shirt wouldn't remain white very long if I wore it. And the website doesn't say anything about its odor resistance. I actually sweat when I ride to work, imagine that. :rolleyes:

http://www.rapha.cc/white-long-sleeve-shirt

http://www.rapha.cc/images/gallery/3174-21.jpg

[Hartlin]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/02/article-2123998-126E7541000005DC-213_468x619.jpg

What's going on with that right shifter?

[sloji]

I'm spillin my guts over rapha's new shoes, really, what's $450? If I could I'd buy two pair, one white and one black...i'd wear the left shoe in white and the right shoe in black! Thank you Rapha for caring...

[CunegoFan]

What's going on with that right shifter?

He is using a bar that is angled outward, sort of halfway between a mustache bar and a drop bar.

[benitosan1972]

I was sponsored by Rapha 4yrs ago for a tour... now I'm just a fan... unlike this thread... it's gonna keep going & going & going, they make nice stuff, that's all... carry on, actually not

[Jaq]

What's going on with that right shifter?

Straight up gangsta shifta.

[Viper]

Dear Conan,

Please fix your sunglasses over the straps and also, switch to Campy. Seeing the starboard shifter brings back a short, painful memory. I won't make of you being all pasty-white, freckly and blown out-looking; the Irish can look this way after a bike ride or an overnight drunk (a little toss out here to my fellow Steve Zissou fans). Just fix the shades and consider Campy.

I don't get upset anymore over the French-colored jerseys. In fact, it brings up a topic I would like to discuss with Captain Piccard of La Barre, France and Star Trek Enterprise (oddly he had an English accent but we won't go there). I believe it was the episode 'Best of Both Worlds' (5150 was Van Halen's best work with Sammy imo) where Piccard fondly described his native flag in the, "Vertical colors of blue, white and red...equally proportioned, as they should be" or some such. Also, Q, in 'All Good Things' described France, "As the place where life began some 3.5 billion years ago". Surely, Q was offering a quip.

Conan, if you'd like me on your show, let me know. I would do a sit down interview. I'd prefer if you had Jennifer Connelly on the show the same night. Do you feel me, dog? All the best Conan. Even you and your Rapha.

Regards,
(Viper)

[pdmtong]

Apparently the shoes came with a glass of champagne today at the SF RCC

http://twitter.com/#!/RaphaCycleClub

[benitosan1972]

^for someone who said that he wasn't gonna buy no $450 yak shoes,
you're sure on top of the fanfare about 'em in more than one thread :rolleyes:

[Jaq]

And because there's never been a shoe in all the history of all the world that is as important, as beautiful, as epitomizing the synthesis of form and function, I give you...

The Unboxing of the Shoe (http://vimeo.com/40045418)

Thank God they only unveiled one. Two might've blown my eyeballs out the back of my head.



p.s. It's actually Signature Cycles' vid, and more power to 'em for coming up with something clever to help sell their stuff and stay in biz.

[54ny77]

That was awesome!!!!

And because there's never been a shoe in all the history of all the world that is as important, as beautiful, as epitomizing the synthesis of form and function, I give you...

The Unboxing of the Shoe (http://vimeo.com/40045418)

Thank God they only unveiled one. Two might've blown my eyeballs out the back of my head.



p.s. It's actually Signature Cycles' vid, and more power to 'em for coming up with something clever to help sell their stuff and stay in biz.

[Elefantino]

And because there's never been a shoe in all the history of all the world that is as important, as beautiful, as epitomizing the synthesis of form and function, I give you...

The Unboxing of the Shoe (http://vimeo.com/40045418)

Thank God they only unveiled one. Two might've blown my eyeballs out the back of my head.
Man's ancestor learns to ...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l84/gmmtwo/ApeNEWcopy.jpg

[saab2000]

Man's ancestor learns to ...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l84/gmmtwo/ApeNEWcopy.jpg

Post of the decade! This applies to all we do here and now we can shut 'er down kids! Love it!

[fuzzalow]

And because there's never been a shoe in all the history of all the world that is as important, as beautiful, as epitomizing the synthesis of form and function, I give you...

The Unboxing of the Shoe (http://vimeo.com/40045418)

Thank God they only unveiled one. Two might've blown my eyeballs out the back of my head.

p.s. It's actually Signature Cycles' vid, and more power to 'em for coming up with something clever to help sell their stuff and stay in biz.

That was a sight to behold. That video was just bordering on camp which I'd venture is exactly how the clever folks at Signature made the video to be.

Shoe bags too, just as found with nice pair of cordovan Aldens.

I like 'em and would buy 'em. Well, at least they don't cost as much as a pair of cordovan Aldens.

[pdmtong]

I put my mits on them at sea otter today.

I want the white ones ....!