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Ahneida Ride
03-01-2012, 09:26 AM
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/320137

above is the link ......

DO NOT SURF THE WEB WHILE LOGGED INTO A GOOGLE SERVICE.


With just a week to go before Google changes to its new privacy policy that allows it to gather, store and use personal information, users have a last chance to delete their Google Browsing History, along with any damning information therein.

Tech News Daily reports that once Google's new unified privacy policy takes effect all data already collected about you, including search queries, sites visited, age, gender and location will be gathered and assigned to your online identity represented by your Gmail and YouTube accounts. After the policy takes effect you are not allowed to opt out without abandoning Google altogether. But now before the policy takes effect, you have the option of deleting your Google Web History by modifying your settings so that Google is unable to associate data collected about you with your Gmail or YouTube accounts.

Tech News Daily reports that Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a nonprofit organization based in San Francisco that advocates for online privacy, says: "Search data can reveal particularly sensitive information about you, including facts about your location, interests, age, sexual orientation, religion, health concerns, and more."
EFF advises all Google users to delete their web history.

Meanwhile, Center for Digital Democracy has filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, asking the Commission to sue Google to stop the policy change. Tech News Daily reports FTC can impose fines up to $16,000 per day for violation.

Daily Mail reports that deleting your browsing history before March 1 when Google's new privacy policy comes into effect will limit Google's ability to track and record your every move online. The process is simple. Follow the steps below:

1. Go to the google homepage and sign into your account.
2. Click the dropdown menu next to your name in the upper-right hand corner of your screen.
3. Click accounts settings
4. Find the "Services section"
5. Under "Services" there is a sub-section that reads "View, enable, disable web history." Click the link next to it that reads: "Go to Web History."
6. Click on "Remove all Web History"
When you click on "Remove all Web History," a message appears that says " Web History is Paused." What this means is that while Google will continue gathering and storing information about your web history it will make all data anonymous, that is, Google will not associate your Web History information with your online accounts and will therefore be unable to send you customized search results.
Google's ability to gather personalized information about you by assigning data to your Gmail and YouTube accounts will remain "Paused" till you click "Resume."

Smiley
03-01-2012, 09:31 AM
I never use Google for this very reason for mail

MattTuck
03-01-2012, 09:37 AM
I did this, but got a screen that says:

Web History makes search better

Your Web History includes searches you've done on Google and pages you've clicked in search results. Web History allows you to:

See personalized search predictions as you type.
Get results and recommendations that are tailored to your preferences.
Search the full content of pages you've already seen.

You can view and edit your Web History from any computer by signing in to your Google Account. Learn more.

And then two buttons, "No Thanks" and "Turn on Web History"

Does this mean that I currently have web history turned off? or do I need to turn it on in order to "Remove all web history"?

nighthawk
03-01-2012, 09:39 AM
Matt,
I get the same screen, and I believe it is because I had already opted out. I'm not sure, though.

BumbleBeeDave
03-01-2012, 10:13 AM
. . . to confuse you into not opting out.

BBD

BumbleBeeDave
03-01-2012, 10:20 AM
. . . successfully and found out that they had kept a record of all my searches in Google since October 3, 2008. I had absolutely no idea they were doing this. Maybe that's naive, but I strongly doubt I am alone. The instructions worked perfectly and my history now is empty and shows hat "Resume" button.

Ahneida, thanks for posting this!

I suppose the lesson here is that with Google, actually sign in only when you need to on order to access mail, Picasa, etc. If you are just doing searches, do it without signing in. would that be correct?

BBD

fourflys
03-01-2012, 10:22 AM
if you've opted out it should say:
"Web History is paused" right to the left of the blue "Resume" button...

fourflys
03-01-2012, 10:26 AM
I did opt out (or at least my wife did for me) but I wasn't surprised at all that they had history on me... how do you think google or any other search engine does what it does so well?

as far as opting out... it doesn't really matter to me if I understand what not opting out does... I don't really care if you or anyone else sees sites that I go to... I don't go to any sites I'd be ashamed of my grandmother knowing I know to so why should it really matter... If Google using my browsing helps give me a more concise search tailored to me, why not? of course my wife said I will opt out.... so I did! :p

roguedog
03-01-2012, 10:33 AM
Thanks for this info! I hate this ****e...makes me nervous I'm on an android device...hmm. :no:

Sandy
03-01-2012, 10:52 AM
How do You sign into your account please?

MattTuck
03-01-2012, 11:12 AM
. . . successfully and found out that they had kept a record of all my searches in Google since October 3, 2008. I had absolutely no idea they were doing this. Maybe that's naive, but I strongly doubt I am alone. The instructions worked perfectly and my history now is empty and shows hat "Resume" button.

Ahneida, thanks for posting this!

I suppose the lesson here is that with Google, actually sign in only when you need to on order to access mail, Picasa, etc. If you are just doing searches, do it without signing in. would that be correct?

BBD

I wouldn't be surprised if they matched your searches to your IP and or MAC address. But yes, as a first line of defense, log out to search for your midget porn.

fourflys
03-01-2012, 11:32 AM
How do You sign into your account please?

just go to google.com and there should be a log-in there somewhere (I assume you don't use Gmail)...

Ahneida Ride
03-01-2012, 11:39 AM
if you've opted out it should say:
"Web History is paused" right to the left of the blue "Resume" button...


Correct !

The text is intentionally vague ..

It's time for me to start moving outa the Google universe ... :(

sc53
03-01-2012, 12:32 PM
Thank you Ahneida! I followed your instructions, avoided the traps, and got to the place where I could delete my web history and NOT resume it. Tricky.
Sandy--you have to use the email address and password you created when you joined gmail or youtube or some other google service to even have a web history. If you never signed up for anything, you don't have to worry about it. Just googling for info does not require you to sign in, password, etc.

AngryScientist
03-01-2012, 12:38 PM
they're onto you Ray...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bwMlSDogaJw/TcMnUdHGLEI/AAAAAAAAAqI/Gqb2grYWkmI/s400/100709.jpg

BumbleBeeDave
03-01-2012, 12:41 PM
Their site architecture to control all your various "options" is almost unusable for a reason. They say you have the ability to control your person info and, technically, you do. The right combo of buttons to push is in there somewhere. but I think they deliberately make is so confusing that most people don't bother.

BBD

giverdada
03-01-2012, 12:58 PM
thanks for this. been getting increasingly concerned with all the laws happening all over the place. seems this week is the week that they're all coming to bear, negatively, on my life. work. internet. anonymity/lack thereof. what's next?

MattTuck
03-01-2012, 01:46 PM
what's next?

You'll have to tell the government where you're going for your next ride, so they can keep you safe.

Ahneida Ride
03-01-2012, 02:45 PM
they're onto you Ray...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bwMlSDogaJw/TcMnUdHGLEI/AAAAAAAAAqI/Gqb2grYWkmI/s400/100709.jpg


They will come for me first .....
say nothing

and

you will be next.

here (http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/quotations/niemoller_jews_communists_socialists.html)

BumbleBeeDave
03-01-2012, 03:03 PM
Don't look now, but . . .

nighthawk
03-01-2012, 03:12 PM
For those having trouble getting to the opt out screen, just go here:

https://www.google.com/history/

If you aren't logged in yet, it will have you log in and then direct you to the opt out screen.

Ray
03-01-2012, 03:17 PM
I just went in to turn it off - no idea if waiting until today means they still have my info. But it was sort of fascinating - had everything I'd done back into early 2006 (may have been when I got on Gmail??) and its was kind of a kick to scroll through. A bit of a trip down memory lane. Not a hugely interesting set of memories, I must say. But kind of a trip.

This stuff doesn't overly bother me. I mean I'm always amazed when I've been looking at a particular product and doing research on it, I keep being bombarded with ads until I actually BUY it somewhere, and then all of the ads amazingly seem to stop. That's pretty mind-bogglingly effective. But in the couple of dozen pages I scrolled through I didn't see anything I'd give a rat's ass about anyone else finding. If somebody wants to bore the crap out of themselves by scrolling through my search history, let 'em...

-Ray

pitcrew
03-01-2012, 05:58 PM
What if you don't use Gmail (don't have a log in)?

Matt-H
03-01-2012, 06:17 PM
I did this, but got a screen that says:

Web History makes search better

Your Web History includes searches you've done on Google and pages you've clicked in search results. Web History allows you to:

See personalized search predictions as you type.
Get results and recommendations that are tailored to your preferences.
Search the full content of pages you've already seen.

You can view and edit your Web History from any computer by signing in to your Google Account. Learn more.

And then two buttons, "No Thanks" and "Turn on Web History"

Does this mean that I currently have web history turned off? or do I need to turn it on in order to "Remove all web history"?


I, too, get this screen. I haven't opted out of anything before and I doubt the default setting is to have the web history paused, so any thoughts?

MattTuck
03-01-2012, 06:20 PM
I, too, get this screen. I haven't opted out of anything before and I doubt the default setting is to have the web history paused, so any thoughts?

I got antsy and clicked on the "Turn on Web History", i was greeted with an empty web history, showing they had not been saving anything I was doing. However, by doing that, they started tracking it, and I had to click on "Pause".

It is now paused. I don't know what would have happened if I had just let it go, not sure what would have happened, if they would have started tracking me, or what. Either way, I am now paused.

In your case, (if it is like mine) they don't have any saved searches for you. I can't promise they won't start saving them in the future if you do not go in and pause it....

Matt-H
03-01-2012, 06:44 PM
Thanks, Matt and Ray!

HenryA
03-01-2012, 10:44 PM
Bing?

capybaras
03-02-2012, 04:22 AM
Thanks for posting this.

wc1934
03-02-2012, 07:58 PM
thanks for the tip - just erased all my history -

GuyGadois
03-02-2012, 08:44 PM
7 years of data on me!

forrestw
03-02-2012, 08:47 PM
I completely fail to see the fuss here.

If you're gonna do something on the internet be prepared to see it published in the NY Times. Privacy is a very hard thing to guarantee.

Whether or not they specifically keep a record of your search history, it's pf obvious that they have the ability and quite decent of them to let you turn it off.

Also if you ever chose to look you already knew this about google, I've known they indexed my search history for years and have used that to retrieve searches I'd forgotten I'd made. Handy that.

stien
03-02-2012, 09:06 PM
I said this in another thread but if you use google chrome as your browser then google is logging everything you do anyway.

mistermo
03-02-2012, 09:10 PM
I got antsy and clicked on the "Turn on Web History", i was greeted with an empty web history, showing they had not been saving anything I was doing. However, by doing that, they started tracking it, and I had to click on "Pause".

It is now paused. I don't know what would have happened if I had just let it go, not sure what would have happened, if they would have started tracking me, or what. Either way, I am now paused.

In your case, (if it is like mine) they don't have any saved searches for you. I can't promise they won't start saving them in the future if you do not go in and pause it....

My experience exactly!

Ray
03-03-2012, 12:24 PM
I completely fail to see the fuss here.

If you're gonna do something on the internet be prepared to see it published in the NY Times. Privacy is a very hard thing to guarantee.

True that. A few years ago I wrote a letter to Newsweek that was published. An old friend of mine was trying to find me recently and did a Google search that didn't pull up the Newsweek site, but other people who had quoted the letter (and attribute it) on their own blogs for their own purposes which had NOTHING to do with the intent of my letter. One was some web site on the history of Armenian genocide, which was not even tangentially related to the letter I wrote or the article it was responding to. Pretty wacky electronic world out there.

-Ray

jeduardo
03-03-2012, 04:08 PM
You'll have to tell the government where you're going for your next ride, so they can keep you safe.

Wow! Stand aside mavic, the googlement is giving new meaning to "neutral support". :rolleyes:
Imagine being trailed/tailed by a blacked-out/molester style team van on your next training ride.
Man, maybe they have a pit-wheel/and a bevy of hammer gel for me next time I flat/bonk ;)

likebikes
03-03-2012, 07:23 PM
why is this tinhat fear/rumor mongering a sticky?

Ahneida Ride
03-04-2012, 09:53 AM
why is this tinhat fear/rumor mongering a sticky?

it ain't fear mongering. Who gets to define fear mongering ?

Quod Erat Demonstartum

maxdog
03-04-2012, 10:35 AM
Done. Thanks for the heads up Ray.

echappist
03-04-2012, 10:45 AM
Thanks for the sticky.

One question, how do you know if you are currently "paused"?

upon going to https://www.google.com/history/, the web page gives me the option of "no thanks" in a gray box and "turn web history on" in a blue box. I clicked on "no thanks" was redirected to the main search page, but how do i actually know that it is paused?

vsefiream
03-05-2012, 01:00 PM
So if I have ignored You Tube in it's urgings that I create a Google email account and link it to You Tube, I should be fine? Of course I am locked out of You tube this way but who cares...

WillT.
03-05-2012, 01:43 PM
So if I have ignored You Tube in it's urgings that I create a Google email account and link it to You Tube, I should be fine? Of course I am locked out of You tube this way but who cares...

Yep - if you're not logged in, they can't track you. The same goes for Google searches - all you have to do is log out or not sign in when searching to keep from being tracked by their new services/methods.