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William
01-08-2012, 09:56 AM
I think I feel worse for the New Zealanders who have to clean up the mess.... and the Irish folks who will be missing 4,000 cases of Sauvignon blanc "destined for the Irish Christmas market. Indeed, officials have doubled crews for the salvage effort upon learning of this peril for the sauvignon blanc. There is great sadness in Dublin, where a vigil in underway." ;)

http://www.cargolaw.com/2011nightmare_mv_rena.html#Dec-17



William

thwart
01-08-2012, 10:17 AM
Doesn't look good for getting everything off at this point...

http://www.cargolaw.com/images/Disaster2011.MV_Rena72.jpg

William
01-08-2012, 10:24 AM
Doesn't look good for getting everything off at this point...

http://www.cargolaw.com/images/Disaster2011.MV_Rena72.jpg

Looks like the bow section is still firmly on the reef. The stern has moved but still on the reef.

Last update from page 2.....

"From The Cargo Letter - Jan. 7 2012 - M/V Rena bow & stern sections now 20 to 30 meters apart

An emergency response is gearing up after a storm further broke up the wrecked M/V Rena, causing more debris to spill off New Zealand's Tauranga coast today.

Salvagers had prepared for all eventualities, including a sinking or a refloat, ahead of a predicted storm this weekend. M/V Rena has been stuck on Astrolabe Reef in the Bay of Plenty since October 5, and is now entering her fourth month stranded.

"There has been a significant change in the status of M/V Rena overnight, with the ship separated into two pieces that are now 20 to 30 meters apart. Seas of up to 6meter hit the vessel overnight," Maritime New Zealand said.

The forward section of the ship is in its original position on the reef, but the stern section has broken away and is moving significantly, although it is still on the reef.

"There has been a significant discharge of containers and container debris from the ship," Maritime NZ said. "This may result in the three nautical mile exclusion zone being extended."

New Zealand's National Response Team has been activated to respond to the potential release of oil from the ship and to treat any affected wildlife.

A wave buoy in the center of the Bay of Plenty monitored by Bay of Plenty Regional Council showed wave heights of nearly 5.8 meters at 6pm on Jan. 7 local time and in the early hours of Jan. 8, local time. The wave height has dropped to 4.2 meters in latest readings.

The storm was predicted to produce 7meter swells, the biggest since Rena grounded."

Heavy rain is predicted today in the Bay of Plenty.

Louis
01-08-2012, 02:48 PM
What a mess.

You'd think that with GPS this sort of thing could be avoided. (Assuming they didn't loose power in a storm and were tossed there by the elements.)

dancinkozmo
01-08-2012, 02:50 PM
What a mess.

You'd think that with GPS this sort of thing could be avoided. (Assuming they didn't loose power in a storm and were tossed there by the elements.)

....Murphy's law.

54ny77
01-08-2012, 02:50 PM
awesome website!

must be an interesting biz.

BumbleBeeDave
01-08-2012, 04:20 PM
. . . be able to furnish your whole house over the next month or so if you walk the beaches there enough.

BBD

struggle
01-08-2012, 04:26 PM
My sister works on private large yachts along the lenght of 100' plus and one of there biggest Captain concerns is hitting a shiping container that is just barely submerged below the surface.

They claim lots of them fall off ships in rough seas in normal cirmcumstances.

54ny77
01-08-2012, 05:03 PM
that's gotta suck. :(

i just got back from florida and have never seen so many big boats in my life. biggest was ~200', owned by the sultan of oman (per the tour guide). how's this for stats: 50k gallon fuel tank, each fill up is....a cool quarter million. probably burns a full-tilt meivici di2 with each day of cruising! :p

My sister works on private large yachts along the lenght of 100' plus and one of there biggest Captain concerns is hitting a shiping container that is just barely submerged below the surface.

They claim lots of them fall off ships in rough seas in normal cirmcumstances.

William
01-08-2012, 05:47 PM
Mrs. William is in the Marine Cargo Underwriting biz. I hear about this kind of stuff all the time. :)





William

Louis
01-08-2012, 06:38 PM
Mrs. William is in the Marine Cargo Underwriting biz. I hear about this kind of stuff all the time. :)

Why aren't the drivers a bit more careful?

nahtnoj
01-08-2012, 06:47 PM
Why aren't the drivers a bit more careful?

Drivers? These things are a bit more difficult to "drive" than an Acura Integra...

Louis
01-08-2012, 06:48 PM
Drivers? These things are a bit more difficult to "drive" than an Acura Integra...

So much more reason for them to be careful.

Edit: Did you read on the web site above about all the code violations found on that ship shortly before the grounding? That thing was a floating disaster waiting to happen. Then it did.

nahtnoj
01-08-2012, 07:02 PM
So much more reason for them to be careful.

Edit: Did you read on the web site above about all the code violations found on that ship shortly before the grounding? That thing was a floating disaster waiting to happen. Then it did.

Yes, I just read it. Agree wholeheartedly. It seems that they got up to date charts and still managed to run full steam into the reef.

struggle
01-08-2012, 09:44 PM
As I understand it there are companies out there that salvage containers that fall off ships but it pretty much has to be extremely valuable for them to go after them in the bigger wrecks where they pin point location.

"It's a write off Jerry"

BumbleBeeDave
01-08-2012, 09:56 PM
. . . bunch of photos and chronology of what's happened so far:

http://www.cargolaw.com/2011nightmare_mv_rena.html

BBD

nahtnoj
01-08-2012, 10:18 PM
that's gotta suck. :(

i just got back from florida and have never seen so many big boats in my life. biggest was ~200', owned by the sultan of oman (per the tour guide). how's this for stats: 50k gallon fuel tank, each fill up is....a cool quarter million. probably burns a full-tilt meivici di2 with each day of cruising! :p

Paul Allen's:

http://twistedsifter.com/2010/09/paul-allens-yacht-tatoosh/

Holds about 250,000 gallons - over a million bucks!!!!

BumbleBeeDave
01-09-2012, 05:43 AM
Paul Allen's:

http://twistedsifter.com/2010/09/paul-allens-yacht-tatoosh/

Holds about 250,000 gallons - over a million bucks!!!!

. . . I might buy THIS one instead. Or just rent it for a few weeks! :D

http://twistedsifter.com/2010/01/maltese-falcon-worlds-largest-sailing-yacht/

BBD

William
01-09-2012, 05:48 AM
. . . bunch of photos and chronology of what's happened so far:

http://www.cargolaw.com/2011nightmare_mv_rena.html

BBD


Do you need some more coffee there Dave? That's the same link from post one. ;) :)




William

Birddog
01-09-2012, 07:04 AM
Nice find Dave. Fascinating recovery effort. That's cool about placing transponders on the containers. I wonder how long they stay active.

BigDaddySmooth
01-09-2012, 07:30 AM
Those container ships are freaking huge. Back in the day, I came up to relieve the Officer-of-the-deck and his "under instruction" underling. We were nearing our patrol box limit so it was time to make a port turn to the North. Well, 10 degrees off the port bow was a container ship. Because this this thing was so big and box-shaped, initially they thought it was ending east, just like us. So, they decided to turn port 90 degrees. I tried to warn them that we were going to cross his bow but they told be to be quiet. At that point, I stood in amusement (truth be told, the OOD and I were not on the best of terms) as these two ding-a-lings ordered a left-standard rudder turn and we were going only 7 kts. Are you kidding me!?! We are about to be split in two. The container ship blared his whistle and 2 seconds later the Old Man was on the bridge. He quickly realized we were in the poop and ordered flank speed, hard left rudder. Then, it was just like the Caine Mutiny... the CO was so pissed he started yelling at Fool #1 and #2 and we did a perfect turn and started to cross his bow a second time. He blared the whistle again. At sea, anything inside 2000 nautical yards is cutting it close. We were about 400 yds. from having a collision at sea. What a mess. I finally relieved these 2 about an hour after I was supposed to...and I didn't even rub it in.

William
01-09-2012, 07:39 AM
Those container ships are freaking huge. Back in the day, I came up to relieve the Officer-of-the-deck and his "under instruction" underling. We were nearing our patrol box limit so it was time to make a port turn to the North. Well, 10 degrees off the port bow was a container ship. Because this this thing was so big and box-shaped, initially they thought it was ending east, just like us. So, they decided to turn port 90 degrees. I tried to warn them that we were going to cross his bow but they told be to be quiet. At that point, I stood in amusement (truth be told, the OOD and I were not on the best of terms) as these two ding-a-lings ordered a left-standard rudder turn and we were going only 7 kts. Are you kidding me!?! We are about to be split in two. The container ship blared his whistle and 2 seconds later the Old Man was on the bridge. He quickly realized we were in the poop and ordered flank speed, hard left rudder. Then, it was just like the Caine Mutiny... the CO was so pissed he started yelling at Fool #1 and #2 and we did a perfect turn and started to cross his bow a second time. He blared the whistle again. At sea, anything inside 2000 nautical yards is cutting it close. We were about 400 yds. from having a collision at sea. What a mess. I finally relieved these 2 about an hour after I was supposed to...and I didn't even rub it in.


That's scary stuff! Pucker factor ten for sure. Glad you got out of that.

The book "Dangerous Waters" covers some close encounters and recounts collisions in the Malacca Straights. The book mainly deals with Piracy and is quite interesting.





William

BumbleBeeDave
01-09-2012, 07:48 AM
Do you need some more coffee there Dave? That's the same link from post one. ;) :)

William

Yes, obviously I had not had any coffe when I posted that! I was so blown away by the pics I didn't even notice there was a link in the OP's post!

Mod on mental vacation! :eek: :p

BBD

feta99
01-09-2012, 09:00 AM
Why aren't the drivers a bit more careful?
How about this one:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/crew-member-charged-in-sinking-of-bc-ferry/article1502781/

Louis
01-09-2012, 10:05 AM
How about this one:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/crew-member-charged-in-sinking-of-bc-ferry/article1502781/

Gee, I wonder what they were doing when they failed to make that course correction? :no:

AngryScientist
01-09-2012, 02:32 PM
oh boy...

http://l1.yimg.com/cv/ip/ap/default/120109/010912ship_uni.jpg

54ny77
01-09-2012, 02:50 PM
stress crack.

oh boy...

http://l1.yimg.com/cv/ip/ap/default/120109/010912ship_uni.jpg

William
01-09-2012, 02:55 PM
The hull was split when she first hit the reef. Surprised it took this long to break apart. Photo from Oct 7.






William

54ny77
01-09-2012, 02:58 PM
disaster aside, i bet working for that salvage company is a hair raising adventure.

The hull was split when she first hit the reef. Surprised it took this long to break apart. Photo from Oct 7.

William

BumbleBeeDave
01-09-2012, 03:49 PM
oh boy...

http://l1.yimg.com/cv/ip/ap/default/120109/010912ship_uni.jpg

. . . THAT should make it easier to get at those containers still inside. :eek: :rolleyes:

BBD

Louis
01-14-2012, 03:38 PM
Who hires these guys to drive these things?

Clarification edit: The picture below shows the ship at a location that is different from where it originally hit whatever caused the gash in the hull. I took some poetic license with my title.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/14/article-2086527-0F74F1B400000578-376_634x361.jpg