Velo-News

[e-RICHIE]

i got my copy yesterday.
i reeeeeeeeally dislike the 'new' look.

thanks for listening.

e-RICHIE

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[BumbleBeeDave]

. . . I heard it was their special birthday present for you!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, E-RICHIE!!! You have my permission to stop welding for the day!

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BBDave:D

[dbrk]

Belated birthday greetings to my palRS.

I got the "new" Velonews yesterday. It takes longer to reach the provinces, apparently. Wow, it is the "new Bicycling": glossy, pictures, pictures, less information, more ads that look like articles, articles and columns that look like ads, and all in all a true disaster. I use the word "hate" very reservedly (there is enough crass overstated disdain in this world) but when you effectively ruin a great publication then perhaps it's permitted to pull this word out. I hate it. I friggin' hate it. It spoils the Velosnooze. What are we left with? English mags are still overall better and have been for years but what is left in America? The Rivendell Reader has always provided about a million times more interesting thoughts and insights. Vintage Bicycle Quarterly keeps you up on flyweights of yore. But for racing news we rely on the Velonews and now it's gone the way of everything: who needs words when pictures will do, who needs content when attention spans resemble those of gnats, and who needs tradition when it is time to "move on." Can you tell this annoys me? Oh well, basically, I give up. I have the steel lugged bikes I love and know where to get the things I care about. I will keep the new version in the can rather than next to my bed, then wrap fish in it when I'm tired of the weak bike porn.

dbrk

[Ginger]

Boy, dbrk you must really dislike it.

After all...
Just what would a vegetarian do with a paper wrapped fish?

[dbrk]

Exactly. I am a vegetarian. But wrapping some poor, dead, smelly fish is too good for this rag! Hell, why insult the fish!! Forgive me!! Dead fish are too good for this "new" Velonews. I cried. I really did. I sat at my kitchen table, opened it up, got confused, looked at the pictures, the absence of content, the whole view and wept. Another Good Thing is just gone. Makes me want to buy Cinelli 1A stems and 64-40 bars or something...just to make me feel better.

dbrk
passionate, opinionated, but what the hell, it does no harm, I suppose...

[bostondrunk]

Are you saying that velo news has had any 'content' for the last 5 years????
I prefer giving my money to Maxim. Muchos better content.

[dbrk]

The articles on the races and outcomes have been tolerable, wouldn't you agree? Wilcokson's [sp?] bits on races, occasionally Bryan Jew's recounting of races we'll never see without being there...these have been at least tolerable. But as Appu said, "he's got me there..." [add inflection].

dbrk

[JohnS]

speaking of how lousy Bicycling is, Rodale Press also publishes Ourside and Backpacker and they have both stunk lately. They keep trying to market to the masses, not realizing that these are fringe activities and that's the way we like it. Face it, who wants to go hiking and pass someone every fifty feet!

[oracle]

yeah, the magazines are all crap-rags beholden to the advertizers. velo, if you read french, is still a good bet.

oracle

[Too Tall]

So, does this mean that if I quit paying subscription renewals they will keep sending it anyway? Have NOT paid for Bicycling in 5 yrs. But it keeps coming.

[oracle]

that sounds like something out of a horror movie :eek:

oracle

[Keith A]

So whart are the good European magazines (in English) out there?

[bostondrunk]

If you got money to burn, then get them all, good toilet reading. They are all ads, etc., otherwise just read all about everything on the web...

[JohnS]

TooTall,
I had that same problem. Then I found out a "friend" was buying me a gift subscription. I put a stop to that! :)

[Tom]

I stopped getting Runner's World many years ago. I'm not renewing Outside next time. They are entirely written around their ad content. Nothing more. Funny how the best new thing happens to be the ones running full page ads.

[Climb01742]

for my money, the best writing on cycling today comes from samual abt, writing in the new york times. his articles are too rare, but when they do appear, every word is a jewel.

i had the same disillusionment years ago with sports illustrated. do any of you remember articles written by kenny moore for SI? literate, humane, probing, graceful, meaningful. kenny ran for oregon and then was a pro track/road racer for awhile. he had an athlete's soul and a poet's pen.

fine writing about sport is rare. but check out samual abt. his articles have been collected into a number of books.

where is our cycling version of hemingway to bullfighting?

[e-RICHIE]

i prefer W, Robb Report, Double Gun Quarterly, and WatchTime.
all have great pictures...

e-RICHIE


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[Climb01742]

little richie, you are such a child. :crap:

[JohnS]

e-Richie, you like GUNS? You're one of US? :D

[e-RICHIE]

i dig the guns.
you can keep the bullets though...
e-RICHIE

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[Matt Barkley]

Ride Review from Australia has mucho content. It is now appearing at some Towers and Borders from what I hear. ALso The Ride, East Coast Cycling Culture is out there too.... Throw your subsription money in their direction. - Matt

[scottfa]

Aanybody read/subscribe to Asphalt magazine?

[Kevin]

I'll second the vote for The Ride. It is a pretty good little magazine. I also agree that Bicycling is not good enough to wrap fish.

Kevin

[oracle]

velo101 , a french site is pretty good.

http://www.velo101.com

oracle

[PaulE]

but I attributed the content of the latest VeloNews to the time of the year and not the new format. I guess I'll find out with the next few issues. The buyers' guide they did last year was certainly a wasted issue.

As for Bicycling, for the past year or so they've had one article per issue with some adequate content. The stories about the guy riding up the mountain in Hawaii and the people in the town in Maine that were given Trek comfort bikes to ride for three months come to mind. But each issue should be filled with articles of that size and depth. I've learned more about Alex Singer and Mr. Csuka from reading this forum than that pathetic blurb in Bicycling last month. A four page article on that subject would have been very interesting to a lot of people.