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BumbleBeeDave
08-05-2005, 12:32 PM
This is from yesterday's Cyclingnews.com . . . so even if he wins, he has effectively served a one-year suspension.

BBDave
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Hamilton hearing on September 6

Tyler Hamilton's hearing in front of the Swiss Court of Arbitration for Sport will not take place until September 6, the Boston Globe reports. Hamilton tested positive for a homologous blood transfusion during the Vuelta Espaņa on September 11 last year. In April of this year, he was given a two year ban by the US Anti-Doping Agency, but the three-member arbitration panel was not unanimous in its conclusion that he was guilty. Hamilton then decided to appeal to the international Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, but now it appears that his hearing will take place almost a year after his initial positive test.

chrisroph
08-05-2005, 12:52 PM
The wheels of justice are slow. Suspensions should be stayed during legal challenges to positive tests, as is the case in most other sports.

Fixed
08-05-2005, 12:56 PM
I agree I miss Tyler and the kids on my team do to.

FunkyPorcini
08-05-2005, 12:59 PM
I want to believe in him.

saab2000
08-05-2005, 03:09 PM
The wheels of justice are slow,but they don't need to be. At least not in this case. The world of elite athletes is pretty small and there is no reason this should wait this long.

Anyway, it is my opinion that if he is required to serve a two year suspension, it should be retroactive from the time he had to stop racing, not from the time the suspension was handed down in the spring of this year.

David Millar got his from the time of when he had to stop racing.

Just my $.02

Johny
08-05-2005, 04:28 PM
David Millar got his from the time of when he had to stop racing.


It didn't take very long for him to fess up.

saab2000
08-05-2005, 04:36 PM
It didn't take very long for him to fess up.

Believe me, I know what goes on in pro racing and I am as skeptical as the next guy. But in this case I am not absolutely convinced of TH's guilt. There is at least some science in his defense.

Additionally, I recently read of a report of someone who was released from prison after serving some 19 years for a rape he did not commit. DNA tests later exonerated him. He was denied parole a number of times because he did not take responsibility for the crime. Good man. Stood up for what is right.

I don't know if TH is guilty or not. But his case certainly seems to have some merit and the verdict in the initial hearing was not unanimous. Someone who knows a lot more than I do has some reasonable doubt.

chrisroph
08-05-2005, 07:52 PM
Millar was suspended because he admitted using epo. And, he did not challenge his suspension. My point is that someone who challenges a positive test and resultant suspension should be allowed to race while the challenge is pending. If Tyler is ultimately exonerated, and it is therefore determined that a suspension is not appropriate, he will have been out of racing for over a year.

jerk
08-05-2005, 11:05 PM
Millar was suspended because he admitted using epo. And, he did not challenge his suspension. My point is that someone who challenges a positive test and resultant suspension should be allowed to race while the challenge is pending. If Tyler is ultimately exonerated, and it is therefore determined that a suspension is not appropriate, he will have been out of racing for over a year.


so what?
it's not a court of law. it's a sports racket. them's the rules. if he gets exonerated, he'll be allowed to race. the uci hasn't developed a time machine yet, and if they did it wouldn'y be legal anyway.

jerk

chrisroph
08-06-2005, 12:25 AM
My point is it mimics a court of law, uses lawyers, legal terminology and arbitrators, and has legal implications. Therefore, I believe that legal concepts like innocent until proven guilty should apply. To glibly say so what, those are the rules is narrow minded and shortsighted; if the rules suck, they should be changed. It is also very insensitive to the severe ramifications this whole process is having on Tyler's career, even if he successfully challenges the positive finding. Cycling needs to join the sporting big leagues and develop a rider's association which can negotiote with the owners for things like what I suggest above as well as insurance, retirement benefits, and some of the other benefits athletes in more prominent sports enjoy. If my son had the talent to choose a professional sports career as a cyclist or as a golfer, I'd tell him ride for strong legs and a healthy cardiovascular system but tee it up son!

Dr. Doofus
08-06-2005, 06:02 AM
the uci hasn't developed a time machine yet, and if they did it wouldn'y be legal anyway.

jerk


its called a fina with ada's

(bike porn moment)

btw -- them nerac bikes is purty close up