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onsight512
12-01-2011, 07:14 PM
What's a nice rim (clincher,32h) that's all grey-anodized (or similar looking)?
Mavic Open Pro is one such. Others? If it matters, the rims are for a fixed gear bike that does a lot of commuting.

jds108
12-01-2011, 07:16 PM
How heavy?
How wide?
What kind of profile? (box, semi-aero, deep V, etc.)

onsight512
12-01-2011, 07:20 PM
How heavy?
How wide?
What kind of profile? (box, semi-aero, deep V, etc.)

Thanks for the questions. This is my first time around this...

'relatively light'
23mm tires
box or semi-aero

goboyle
12-01-2011, 07:22 PM
Velocity Rims Ti Grey

DG24
12-01-2011, 07:51 PM
How about H Plus Sons TB14? A little heavy but might work for a fixie commuter.

beercan
12-01-2011, 08:16 PM
i would stick with the open pro or maybe the dt swiss equivalent, maybe even some cxp 33s,

oldpotatoe
12-02-2011, 07:45 AM
What's a nice rim (clincher,32h) that's all grey-anodized (or similar looking)?
Mavic Open Pro is one such. Others? If it matters, the rims are for a fixed gear bike that does a lot of commuting.

DT 415 and DT 465..both excellent and IMHO, far better than Mavic OpenPro.

DT 585, Mavic CXP-33...all better choices than OpenPro in this wheelbuilder's opinion.

Commuting? DT 465, great rim, have build many.

cmg
12-02-2011, 10:51 AM
velocity aeroheads, strong and light. IRD cadence, KINLIN 270X. If you want strenght go to 28-32 spoke rims.

jds108
12-02-2011, 11:12 AM
Another vote for Velocity Aerohead - and get an OC (off-center) rear. IRD (interloc racing) has a light rim that's also OC, but my second hand info says they're more 'light' than 'durable'.

For most folks 28h front and 32h rear makes for a durable setup - I'm 215lb and as long as I'm careful that's fine for me.

Also keep in mind that the person building the wheel makes a difference, so seek out somebody who has had experience and positive refs/reviews.

sinican
12-02-2011, 11:43 AM
Kinlin seems to have very good reviews and the prices are great. I would go with the 270 version. Kinlin is the maker of IRD cadence

oldpotatoe
12-02-2011, 01:42 PM
Another vote for Velocity Aerohead - and get an OC (off-center) rear. IRD (interloc racing) has a light rim that's also OC, but my second hand info says they're more 'light' than 'durable'.

For most folks 28h front and 32h rear makes for a durable setup - I'm 215lb and as long as I'm careful that's fine for me.

Also keep in mind that the person building the wheel makes a difference, so seek out somebody who has had experience and positive refs/reviews.

Single speed, perhaps a symmetric hub? No OC. But for a commuter? I wouldn't save 28 grams even on a front wheel(28 vs 32) for a commuter that weighed 175 pounds. Looking to save 118 grams on a Velocity 28/32 vs DT 465, 32 hole both ends. BUT the DT 465 32h would be significantly stronger, IMHO.

Yes, I am conservative in my wheelbuilding philosophy.

jds108
12-02-2011, 01:46 PM
Single speed, perhaps a symmetric hub? No OC. But for a commuter? I wouldn't save 28 grams even on a front wheel(28 vs 32) for a commuter that weighed 175 pounds. Looking to save 118 grams on a Velocity 28/32 vs DT 465, 32 hole both ends. BUT the DT 465 32h would be significantly stronger, IMHO.

Yes, I am conservative in my wheelbuilding philosophy.

Yes, agreed. I forgot the original context of the topic.

vqdriver
12-02-2011, 02:01 PM
How about H Plus Sons TB14? A little heavy but might work for a fixie commuter.

i've seen these. they're way puuuuurrty

jerome
12-02-2011, 03:18 PM
32 I will go Mavic Open Pro CX Ceramic
or Ambrosio "La reine des Pavés"

Velocity I have never tried.


best

mandasol
12-02-2011, 04:21 PM
i've seen these. they're way puuuuurrty

I've got a set of these in polished, they are mirror like, definitely a fingerprint magnet. I'm planning on putting together another set in the anodized with dura ace hubs. I like them. I will say that the quality is not really up there with DT Swiss though.

echappist
12-02-2011, 05:20 PM
how strong are the aerohead rims? i'm skeptical of an alloy rim's durability when it goes south of 430g. Prowheelbuilder don't think highly of it in terms of strength

slowpoke
12-02-2011, 05:28 PM
32 I will go Mavic Open Pro CX Ceramic
or Ambrosio "La reine des Pavés"
Aren't those Ambrosio Nemesis, and don't they only come in tubular?

onsight512
12-02-2011, 08:51 PM
Thanks for all of the replies, folks. The Dt's look nice, but I really want grey. :)

And after reading through everything again, I realized that when I was asked about 'weight', it wasn't rim weight, which is what I assumed. I'm 175#.

thanks again,
Chris

oldpotatoe
12-03-2011, 07:44 AM
how strong are the aerohead rims? i'm skeptical of an alloy rim's durability when it goes south of 430g. Prowheelbuilder don't think highly of it in terms of strength

"No such thing as a free lunch". Light rim(like around 400 grams) means it isn't as strong as a heavier rim. So, don't make "the 3 strikes and you are out"
mistake in wheel design. Light rim, thin spokes, low spoke count. Remember a rim that is considered 'heavy' is only about 100 grams heavier than one that is considered 'light'. 200 grams per wheelset. Think about what weighs 200 grams and how much the rider/bicycle package weighs....now think about a wheel that gets wacked because stuff is too light, and having to walk.

"More races have been lost solely due to equipment than won"

-anon

witcombusa
12-03-2011, 08:49 AM
Single speed, perhaps a symmetric hub? No OC. But for a commuter? I wouldn't save 28 grams even on a front wheel(28 vs 32) for a commuter that weighed 175 pounds. Looking to save 118 grams on a Velocity 28/32 vs DT 465, 32 hole both ends. BUT the DT 465 32h would be significantly stronger, IMHO.

Yes, I am conservative in my wheelbuilding philosophy.

Agree....

a few grams versus the long term durability, especially on a commuter.

I'd be 32 hole f/r @ 175#

skijoring
12-03-2011, 09:04 AM
The DT rims are super...don't be swayed by color choices. The 465 rims are fantastic.

ts0673
12-03-2011, 01:02 PM
I've had great luck with my DT RR1.1, which I believe is the predecessor to the R415.

My experience with Open Pros has been hit or miss, have pulled a few spokes through after 5K miles...

I always build 32h, 3x, with 14/15g spokes and I am 170-175lbs

echappist
12-03-2011, 03:16 PM
"No such thing as a free lunch". Light rim(like around 400 grams) means it isn't as strong as a heavier rim. So, don't make "the 3 strikes and you are out"
mistake in wheel design. Light rim, thin spokes, low spoke count. Remember a rim that is considered 'heavy' is only about 100 grams heavier than one that is considered 'light'. 200 grams per wheelset. Think about what weighs 200 grams and how much the rider/bicycle package weighs....now think about a wheel that gets wacked because stuff is too light, and having to walk.

"More races have been lost solely due to equipment than won"

-anon

Peter, thanks for sharing your thoughts. They are appreciated as words of wisdom.

After i got 32H f&r Velocity Razor rims, 105 hubs, and Sapim Race spokes on sale (see my papa-sierra-alpha), i recommended a friend to get the same. The dealer ran out of razors and was offering 32H aeroheads, possibly with Sapim Laser spokes. I told her to look elsewhere.