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Old 03-15-2011, 04:24 PM
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Will Sugino 75 Track BB with ISO taper work with Campy Cranks?

I have a cache of campy cranks that take the 111 symetrical spindle

Can I use a Sugino 75 Track BB with ISO taper with Campy Cranks, the centaur square tapers ones that take a 111 spindle, assuming I have chainstay clearance?

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Old 03-15-2011, 06:35 PM
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As the former owner of a pair of Mavic cranks, I'd recommend against it.

IDK if it was my ham fistedness or the different taper, but I sure-as-shootin cracked that crankarm at the spindle hole.

Up to you tho.

For a more definitive answer, check Sheldon Brown's site.

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Old 03-15-2011, 07:25 PM
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iso is iso.

but the campy cranks might need a longer bb than the 102/103mm sg75bb to clear the stays?
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:35 PM
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There were two taper standards - Campy and Shimano - and I don't recall what taper Sugino used. If you use one type of crank on the other type of spindle things get unhappy.

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Old 03-15-2011, 07:41 PM
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sugino 75 cranks use an iso taper.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:57 PM
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Shimano uses JIS taper.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:04 PM
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dana_e
I have a cache of campy cranks that take the 111 symetrical spindle

Can I use a Sugino 75 Track BB with ISO taper with Campy Cranks, the centaur square tapers ones that take a 111 spindle, assuming I have chainstay clearance?

Thanks D
Sugino 75 cranks DO use ISO taper so yes, you can use it.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:42 AM
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As the former owner of a pair of Mavic cranks, I'd recommend against it.

IDK if it was my ham fistedness or the different taper, but I sure-as-shootin cracked that crankarm at the spindle hole.

Up to you tho.

For a more definitive answer, check Sheldon Brown's site.

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Mavic cranks were JIS, Sugino 75 is ISO. Superbe Pro/Pista is ISO also, for info.
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:44 AM
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IIRC I've used 108mm BB w/ Sugino 75 and had good chainline using Phil hubs and EAI cogs. At 111 it might be off a bit. There is good info and a few spacing charts here.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:50 AM
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thanks guys

I appreciate it. The Sugino 75 is ISO, campy style. 109 vs 111 is not a biog deal, I assume it is symetrical.

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Old 03-16-2011, 12:02 PM
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Mavic cranks were JIS, Sugino 75 is ISO. Superbe Pro/Pista is ISO also, for info.
At some point in time Suntour used their own taper for their Superbe Pro cranks. Sheldon Brown remarks on this somewhere on his Suntour page. I recently tried 8 different ISO and JIS bottom brackets on one of these NOS cranksets until I finally capitulated and installed a Superbe Pro bottom-bracket.
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:00 PM
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At some point in time Suntour used their own taper for their Superbe Pro cranks. Sheldon Brown remarks on this somewhere on his Suntour page. I recently tried 8 different ISO and JIS bottom brackets on one of these NOS cranksets until I finally capitulated and installed a Superbe Pro bottom-bracket.
Perhaps but on page 3-27 of my Sutherlands they specifically state Superbe Pro road and track cranks, SPB-tk and SPB-rd use a 'Campagnolo' taper of 109mm(Pista) and 111mm(road).

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