Colorado...

[bostondrunk]

Geez, kind of wish I were waking up in CO today to go shopping at the new stores....

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by bostondrunk

Geez, kind of wish I were waking up in CO today to go shopping at the new stores....

'Boston'drunk'-

Well 'medical' marijuana is a joke, a 'legal' way to get stoned..go to a 'quack' with enough $ and you get the red card, wether you have a medical condition or not.

I really don't care if somebody gets stoned rather than get 'faced', makes no difference to me. What I worry about are more wasted drivers of big, 4000 pound weapons on the streets, while I ride.

Now a legal way to get stoned...just now out in the open.

For the 'athletes' who want to burn something, then breathe it into your lungs...thanks, not for me.

I think the thing that is kinda 'lost' is that marijuana consumption has only one goal, to get stoned. Yes yes, you can get ····· faced on booze but noting the recent IPA thread, many drink cuz it tastes good, not cuz you get blasted as a result.

As the song goes, the times they are a-changin'...

[witcombusa]

This is not a move that makes Colorado a better place for me. Besides, much like alcohol, they will tax the crap out of it. It is really only being made legal for the same old reason, so they can profit from it .

OP, disagree with you about the alcohol/pot thing. VERY few are in either for more than the high...but do agree that much like handicapped parking, abuse will be rampant.

[pinkshogun]

i assume cig. smoking is down as is the tax revenue it brings in so weed tax will give it a boost

[avalonracing]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

I think the thing that is kinda 'lost' is that marijuana consumption has only one goal, to get stoned. Yes yes, you can get ····· faced on booze but noting the recent IPA thread, many drink cuz it tastes good, not cuz you get blasted as a result.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Soda tastes good too but I've never known guys to go out and have ten sodas at the soda bar while pontificating about how one blend soda is slightly better than another. (Even though the soda will give them a headache in the morning and they take a chance at losing their drivers license for driving after drinking more than three or four sodas).

Dudes, enjoy your beer but just be man enough to admit it... you like beer for the alcohol and wouldn't drink it if it had no alcohol content.

(Just like no adult would smoke cigarettes if they didn't have nicotine and weren't addictive and no one would smoke weed if it didn't make them feel good).

[dekindy]

Criminalizing drug use does not make sense; does more harm than good. I agree with Milton Friedman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY

[avalonracing]

Originally Posted by dekindy

Criminalizing drug use does not make sense; does more harm than good. I agree with Milton Friedman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY

I agree with Morgan Freeman.

[mike p]

Tons more youth smoking pot, what could be bad about that. :-(

Mike

[witcombusa]

Originally Posted by dekindy

Criminalizing drug use does not make sense; does more harm than good. I agree with Milton Friedman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsCC0LZxkY

How about eliminating drug use?

It's actually simple, if no one wants the drugs, none will be used.

Job done.

[Schmed]

Originally Posted by witcombusa

...Besides, much like alcohol, they will tax the crap out of it. It is really only being made legal for the same old reason, so they can profit from it .

There have been a few articles showing that the cost of regulating the MJ industry may eat up most or all of the tax income from sales. I sure hope that's not the case. I'm skeptical that we'll see one bit of improvement in our schools from this new found "wealth". (the first $40MM of tax income goes to school construction, per my understanding)

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_2335664...juana-colorado

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...t-doesnt-exist

[mike p]

Your obviously a glass half full kinda of guy :-)

Mike

Originally Posted by Schmed

There have been a few articles showing that the cost of regulating the MJ industry may eat up most or all of the tax income from sales. I sure hope that's not the case. I'm skeptical that we'll see one bit of improvement in our schools from this new found "wealth". (the first $40MM of tax income goes to school construction, per my understanding)

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_2335664...juana-colorado

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...t-doesnt-exist

[Schmed]

Originally Posted by mike p

Your obviously a glass half full kinda of guy :-)

Mike

Ha! Yes - getting more and more skeptical of the "regulators" ability to actually "regulate".

And... I'm not a fan of having 300,000 more pot heads in Colorado!

Sincerely,

Old and Grouchy.

[#campyuserftw]

Colorado is the next location to apply weakness, relativism, and cloudy judgment in allowing more stoned people.

If you do not smoke weed, know anyone who does? Probably not, but if you do, watching their addiction to weed is sad and real. Weed doesn't make people brighter, it makes them more dull. Weed is a true epidemic amongst our youth, and no white paper study is needed to understand our troubled, violent youth, have fragile, dynamic chemistries and weed wreaks havoc; Colorado is in the news on a regular basis with high school shootings, and one hopes Colorado's teens would be led by their adults who strive to be clear, balanced and productive.

Next high school shooting in Colorado where the teens are on pills, living on Red Bull, violent video games and weed, we'll be able to agree with this stoner, "You made real change":

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/s...-open-21388224

"Weed can be bought in different forms. While the majority of the merchandise is something to be smoked, some retailers are also selling marijuana in the edible variety: brownies, cookies, carbonated drinks.

Another legal form are vaporizer pens — similar to electronic cigarettes — which use cannabis oil."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...-colorado?lite

[#campyuserftw]

Originally Posted by bostondrunk

Geez, kind of wish I were waking up in CO today to go shopping at the new stores....

Coming from Boston, allow me to remind you the bombers who wreaked havoc on your city, yeah, they were stoned dude. And dude, they sold weed to finance their sick, twisted operation, dude; they were weed dealers who got the taste of murder while dealing weed, and covering their victim's bodies with weed.

We know what the stoners did later, to the innocent at the Boston Marathon, an athletic event that is the complete opposite of a bong hit.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1326722

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...estioning?lite

[malcolm]

Originally Posted by #campyuserftw

Colorado is the next location to apply weakness, relativism, and cloudy judgment in allowing more stoned people.

If you do not smoke weed, know anyone who does? Probably not, but if you do, watching their addiction to weed is sad and real. Weed doesn't make people brighter, it makes them more dull. Weed is a true epidemic amongst our youth, and no white paper study is needed to understand our troubled, violent youth, have fragile, dynamic chemistries and weed wreaks havoc; Colorado is in the news on a regular basis with high school shootings, and one hopes Colorado's teens would be led by their adults who strive to be clear, balanced and productive.

Next high school shooting in Colorado where the teens are on pills, living on Red Bull, violent video games and weed, we'll be able to agree with this stoner, "You made real change":

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/s...-open-21388224

"Weed can be bought in different forms. While the majority of the merchandise is something to be smoked, some retailers are also selling marijuana in the edible variety: brownies, cookies, carbonated drinks.

Another legal form are vaporizer pens — similar to electronic cigarettes — which use cannabis oil."

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...-colorado?lite

I've not smoked weed in 20+ years and don't advocate any excessive use of any drug. I do drink wine and beer. I like the taste of both especially big reds and IPAs, as mentioned above I also like the buzz, but I don't do it every day.

I personally think weed should be legal and taxed, prohibition didn't work and the war on drugs hasn't either.

I've not ever seen any credible data linking marijuana to violence. Violent acts with weed involved almost always have multiple drugs on board with alcohol being the most prevalent. I grew up with lots of stoners in high school in the '70s and while they for the most part were not a productive group they were not violent unless drunk as well. The true stoner is at home eating, listening to music, watching cartoons or playing video games.

Alcohol, in my opinion remains our most destructive drug if you consider, lost wages, lives ruined and health care costs. Just because it's so pervasive. For the most part it's a part of our culture.