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Old 09-19-2014, 11:29 AM
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"Vote" is being very generous.

Much talk of voters fraud going on, no surprise there.

Business as usual in the Empire
Much talk where? Popular poles looked very close recently, but they pointed towards union for a good while before that and, as I understand it, they never gave a clear nod to separation except in certain locales (say, Glasgow, where the official tally did not mirror the national tally in any case). People grumble, of course, and sometimes they're right to do so, but I've not seen widespread reports of voter fraud in the international press. What makes you think that this was illegitimate?
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:40 AM
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I'm pretty sure independence would mean being shunned by the EU. Don't think they will take kindly the shutting down of the nuclear deterrent.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:51 AM
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You just end up being serfs under a different government run for the benefit of a different financial elite.

The song change, but the music remains the same.

(see India for details.)
Do I sense a righteous tone (in the last line) being delivered from a high american horse about the pitfalls of a plutocracy?
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:51 AM
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Whatever the outcome, this vote is going to be polarizing. It’s close enough for folks to be pissed that they didn’t win (“what if…?) and the margin is big enough folks to think some sort of mandate was handed down. This will forever change the relationship between Scotland and the rest of the UK.
Parliament sure as hell better work diligently to substantively address Scottish issues like they promised, because they now have a large and organized nationalist movement that has had independence dangled in front of them like a carrot.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:27 PM
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"Vote" is being very generous.

Much talk of voters fraud going on, no surprise there.

Business as usual in the Empire
Obvious anti-government quackery is obvious.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:47 PM
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Looks like another 300 years of living under the English boot.

After 1865 Americans don't have the option of not being serfs under a government run for the benefit of the financial elite. Scotland had their chance. They blew it. I see more taxpayer funded bailouts in the future.

Groundskeeper Willie gonna be pissed.
I'd change that date to December 23 1913.
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:02 PM
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I did get a laugh from some of the arguments for maintaining the union. The burden of defense spending? Like the Norwegian are going to start building long ships to sail west to invade Scotland?
Hey, it has happened before. . . .
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Old 09-19-2014, 02:11 PM
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Catalonia might be next.

Will Quebec try again? I lived there when they tried the first time. I left with many other Anglo's…..Quebec paid for it economically.
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:34 PM
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Looks like another 300 years of living under the English boot.

After 1865 Americans don't have the option of not being serfs under a government run for the benefit of the financial elite. Scotland had their chance. They blew it. I see more taxpayer funded bailouts in the future.

Groundskeeper Willie gonna be pissed.
Even if the gained independence, would they escape the boot of a
private central Feudal Preserve?
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Old 09-20-2014, 08:32 AM
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Even if the gained independence, would they escape the boot of a
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Old 09-20-2014, 10:19 AM
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I'd change that date to December 23 1913.
Nope. See September 17, 1787.
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:09 AM
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Antisemitic Aussie.
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Old 09-20-2014, 12:08 PM
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Old 09-20-2014, 04:12 PM
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Antisemitic Aussie.
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