Best race-worthy cantis that won't break the bank?

[Dead Man]

Bonjour mesdames et messieurs

Finally starting to get serious about building up this season's CX bike. I've never actually sourced parts and assembled a CX bike, and therefor am not really up on CX brakes. Easy Button: ask Paceliners!

So what's a good lesser-expensive canti brake option for CX?

I'll be looking for sale/clearance/used, which I would think broadens things up quite a bit. No problem riding older stuff. Don't have a budget, but it looks like pretty much any amateur-racer quality brake is gonna be sub-$100, no?

I'm open to mini-Vs too, but since I've never felt like I lacked stopping power in a CX race, I am not really convinced I need to sacrifice grass-infused gloppy mud clearance for sake of "better" brakes.... however, it does suddenly occur to me that maybe mini-Vs would lend to less hand fatigue from hard braking? Hmmmm...

Thanks!

-Le B

[p nut]

I purchased a set of Avid Shorty Ult on here a year or two ago for $75. I bet you could find some around the same. Throw up a WTB ad.

[Hombre]

Tektro Mini-V, KoolStop salmon pads, and Jagwire noodle with adjustable cable tension.
http://www.jensonusa.com/Tektro-926A...Brake?cs=Black
http://www.jensonusa.com/Kool-Stop-Thinline-Shoes
http://www.jensonusa.com/Jagwire-90-...gwire%20noodle
More stopping power than canti's and they have a strong initial bite for scrubbing off speed. Personally I haven't had a need to modulate brakes during a race. I haven't had an issue with mud or grass clearance either with 35mm Kenda Happy Mediums. But then again I race in Socal, so what do I know about mud? Absolute bang for your buck IMO.

I like to thing of this setup as budget Paul Mini-Moto

All that for under $70

[Dead Man]

Originally Posted by Hombre

I haven't had an issue with mud or grass clearance either. But then again I race in Socal, so what do I know about mud?

Dis portland CXing

[Hombre]

Originally Posted by Dead Man

Dis portland CXing

If PNW mud is like nutella, then I know everything about it.

[AngryScientist]

Shimano CX70's are not expensive and work very well.

[xvxax]

I've used TRP cantis but I've moved onto TRP mini-vs. The modulation is a bit worse but the power is just so much better. In mud it's important to have the power. I've used them with TRP black pads and now salmons.

[mmfs]

Are Tektro CR720's too budget? I've been so pleased with them that I've put them on two bikes. Can be found for ~$24 for a set.

[GregL]

Avid Shorty 4's with Kool Stop salmon pads. Inexpensive and effective.

Greg

[Dead Man]

Originally Posted by xvxax

I've used TRP cantis but I've moved onto TRP mini-vs. The modulation is a bit worse but the power is just so much better. In mud it's important to have the power. I've used them with TRP black pads and now salmons.

This is the opposite of my theory... with the cantis I've been using, I have no trouble locking up the wheel in mud - in fact, to avoid locking it up, I've kinda trained myself to keep pedaling into hard, muddy turns to keep the wheel moving, thereby keeping traction/staying upright (plus not bogging down and getting stuck). Seems to me like a more powerful brake would just make the problem worse, not better. I'd take more power if I got better modulation with it, but the modulation is really what you need, in my humble opinion

This is why I was so unimpressed with disc, the first half of last season I tried them. The pads drug on the rotors constantly, as soon as they got dirty, and the braking force was overkill. And aggregate-filled mud STILL collected on the calipers..

[John H.]

If you want good and cheap cantis it is hard to beat the non-series Shimano cantis.

[45K10]

When I raced CX in BC I used Campy cantis but they were just rebranded Tektros. They worked great. My wife raced with mini vs. She could blow through a set of pads in two laps if it was really muddy.

I'm not sure if they still make campy canti's though??

[zennmotion]

Originally Posted by mmfs

Are Tektro CR720's too budget? I've been so pleased with them that I've put them on two bikes. Can be found for ~$24 for a set.

I've tried quite a few "budget" models, these are by far my favorite- easy setup, easy adjustment, good screws and fasteners, and wide profile gives a little better rim clearance as well as better ability to adjust the mechanical advantage/clearance to your preference (vs narrow stance brakes). They're cantis. Don't overthink it, although I think that different models seem to work better/worse with different frame and fork dimensions. Some people have issues with wide profile cantis (like the CR720s) on CX race bikes because they come in contact during dismounts, I've never had that issue, YMMV. The pads are crap though, replace them with kool stops and you'll have a nice setup.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by xvxax

I've used TRP cantis but I've moved onto TRP mini-vs. The modulation is a bit worse but the power is just so much better. In mud it's important to have the power. I've used them with TRP black pads and now salmons.

But the cable on Mini Vs is pretty close to the tire, vs Cantis..may be an issue n mud.

[zennmotion]

Originally Posted by xvxax

I've used TRP cantis but I've moved onto TRP mini-vs. The modulation is a bit worse but the power is just so much better. In mud it's important to have the power. I've used them with TRP black pads and now salmons.

Actually in mud, where traction is slick, less power and more modulation to prevent locking wheels up, and cantis have better mud clearance at the pads and as OP already said, between the tire and the cable. On steep gravel or pavement in wet conditions though, mini-Vs are better with more power on slick rim surfaces. It's all good though, brakes just slow you down!