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Old 11-26-2023, 12:25 PM
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Holy Janky Brakeline Routing, Batman!!!!
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Old 11-26-2023, 12:51 PM
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Old 11-26-2023, 01:00 PM
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I am constantly perplexed by the way TPC presents geometry and other info. Why the hell would their size choice buttons use the "Traditional Frame Size Reference" column (rounded down in some cases) instead of size labels that Serotta uses? SMH
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Old 11-26-2023, 01:01 PM
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Sounds like Serotta is just slapping their name on a generic aluminum frame and calling it a Duetti, even though a Duetti is normally made from titanium.
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Old 11-26-2023, 01:05 PM
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Sounds like Serotta is just slapping their name on a generic aluminum frame and calling it a Duetti, even though a Duetti is normally made from titanium.
This. Similar to the Battaglin aluminum frames that were going to $99. But you know, frame material plays no role in how a bike rides. With the right wheels and cockpit, it should ride just like an Aethos.
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Old 11-26-2023, 01:38 PM
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Sounds like Serotta is just slapping their name on a generic aluminum frame and calling it a Duetti, even though a Duetti is normally made from titanium.
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This. Similar to the Battaglin aluminum frames that were going to $99. But you know, frame material plays no role in how a bike rides. With the right wheels and cockpit, it should ride just like an Aethos.
You could have just used Google instead of a jump to conclusions mat.
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Old 11-26-2023, 06:01 PM
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Sounds like Serotta is just slapping their name on a generic aluminum frame and calling it a Duetti, even though a Duetti is normally made from titanium.
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You could have just used Google instead of a jump to conclusions mat.
I'm not the one that wrote the copy on the Serotta website that makes it sound that way. Seriously, what does "pre-engineered" mean?

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Old 11-26-2023, 04:27 PM
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This. Similar to the Battaglin aluminum frames that were going to $99. But you know, frame material plays no role in how a bike rides. With the right wheels and cockpit, it should ride just like an Aethos.
I bought one of the Battalions as well, but while an ok bike it is nowhere near as nice as the Serotta. The Duetti is an excellent riding bike and a steal for the current price IMHO.

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Old 11-26-2023, 01:17 PM
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Sounds like Serotta is just slapping their name on a generic aluminum frame and calling it a Duetti, even though a Duetti is normally made from titanium.
Not generic, it was designed by Ben and completely proprietary shaping and Colorado concept style tube set on them for when he relaunched the brand around 2018. They’re REALLY nice riding bikes and were called Duetti before he applied it to the titanium relaunch. It seems like he over ordered these and on shifting into Ti, wants to clear them out to get some cash back. I paid $700 for mine last year and it’s one of the best deals I’ve gotten on a frame.

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Old 11-27-2023, 07:54 AM
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It seems like he over ordered these and on shifting into Ti, wants to clear them out to get some cash back.
Slow learner?
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Old 11-27-2023, 09:02 AM
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Slow learner?
No-one ever accused him of being an amazing businessman, but Ben can design a hell of a bike and this is definitely a great aluminum bike. Rides way better than the Allez, CAADs, and Emonda ALRs I've owned.

If you want to be generous, you can give him credit for realizing that fancy aluminum was not his market (no matter how well he designed it) and going back to "Colorado concept" Titanium to get his premium back.
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Old 11-27-2023, 10:19 AM
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I get the complaints about the hoses but for a lot of bikes that's been the standard way to do it for a really long time so it wouldn't bother me much. It makes maintenance really easy which is a plus.

I think it is incongruous for a road bike though which is really kind of stuck in the smaller tire sizes by today's standards. They might as well have just stuck rim brakes on it and make it retro and lighter. It's kind of stuck in the middle, but then again it is a closeout NOS frame from 5 years ago.

I think for me the thing that is worst is just metal frame + carbon fork + disc brakes. They basically all look terrible compared to the same bike with rim brakes. Just putting rim brakes on it makes it look so much more elegant. If the whole bike is carbon and swoopy and so on they seem to be able to make it look better.
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Old 11-27-2023, 12:02 PM
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BTW: eBay also has listing for these...


If I didn't already have Pro Helix Disc bike that only fits 30 max I might be stupid enough to but a demo one. No Alloy [no less nice alloy] in my Stable except Old Gary Paragon faithful.

But then again, if this Serotta fit 32s prob not be on clearance...
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Old 11-26-2023, 02:44 PM
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My expectation is just a little greater from boutique builders. Its not a surly. Even $500 aluminum mtbs and boomer bikes from Dicks manage something a little less cobby looking. Comes across as a bit lazy in 2023, zip ties on the down tube or fork are just not acceptable anymore. I thought a serotta was about pushing the envelope of existing technology in a bombproof platform?

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Old 11-26-2023, 02:53 PM
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Holy Janky Brakeline Routing, Batman!!!!
It's wireless shifting, so the only things to route are the brake hoses. The front goes along the fork and the other goes down the downtube and along the nds chainstay.
The routing seems very straight forward. Not sure what is janky about it?

...if the complaint is that it isn't internally routed, I mean I guess that is something to complain about. My gravel frame has an internal fork hose and rear brake is externally routed. The zip ties work fine- I continue to not die or even think about the brake hose.
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