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Old 09-04-2015, 08:39 AM
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Campy wheels 2 way fit models

Is it worth getting the 2 way fit models?

Knowing how hard it is to remove tires from my older Eurus are 2 way fit harder to remove when used with tubes

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Old 09-04-2015, 08:53 AM
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I'm not sure I'd pay extra for the privilege unless I was certain I would at least *try* tubeless tires. I've got 2-Way Shamals and they're great wheels.

But I did watch an experienced mechanic struggle for a long while to mount some Veloflex Masters. (Better him than me.)

If I had a magic wand and I could go back in time and I had the choice of exactly the same wheels in regular or two-way, I'd probably go with the regular clinchers.

But YMMV. I could see a scenario where the tubeless advantages--almost flat proof, good ride--outweigh the disadvantages--higher priced tires, lack of true high performance rubber.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:02 AM
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Been riding on a set of Fulcrum (i.e. Campy) Racing Zero 2-way wheels for several years. Absolutely no difficulty mounting/removing tires provided it's done correctly. Really can't tell any difference between these and the other wheels I've used over the years, regarding tires. I've used Vittoria, Vredestein & Duro on these wheels.
I still use tubes; can't yet justify the higher price of tubeless tires vs. what I typically run currently. I like the noticeable "pop" as the tires seat on the rims.
These wheels work great with the conventional tube setup.
Down the road (not sure how far) I would like to try tubeless.
Don't know what the cost difference is between 2-way fit & conventional. If it's minimal, I'd go 2-way.

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Old 09-04-2015, 09:02 AM
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I have no trouble mounting tires on my Zonda 2-way fit wheels. These included:

- Veloflex Corsa (23 and 25 mm)
- Continental GP 4000 II (25 mm)
- Continental GP 4 Season (25 mm)
- Michelin Pro 4 SC (25 mm)
- Hutchinson Sector tubeless (28 mm)

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Old 09-04-2015, 11:44 AM
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I made sure the Zonda's I bought last year were NOT two way fit. Can put a tire on with my fingers.
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Old 09-04-2015, 01:56 PM
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I think so. IN fact I have a pair of new Zondas that literally have been ridden once that I'm going to be putting up for sale here having now ridden some Fulcrum Ones with tubeless tires.
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Old 09-04-2015, 02:06 PM
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mounting schwalbe ones on my two-way zondas (tubeless) was a GIANT pain. Took forever, and broke 2 pedros tire tools.
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:36 PM
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mounting schwalbe ones on my two-way zondas (tubeless) was a GIANT pain. Took forever, and broke 2 pedros tire tools.
How closely did you follow the tubeless tire install process? I've been riding a pair of Fulcrum Racing One wheels tubeless for 3+ years
- never had a flat with tubeless tires (7k+ miles)
- given that I've only had to change the tires 3 times, it's not been a problem and it is not hard (done without tools and following usual tubeless install process)
- these wheels are faster than my 50mm carbon clinchers were

I'm totally sold on road tubeless and have two other tubeless wheelsets as well.
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Old 09-04-2015, 09:03 PM
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I didn't really follow any procedures, I just mounted it the way I do my other tires. One they were on the rim, it was fine, the bead seated easily, and then added sealant, etc. I do like the way they ride, and like running at lower pressure.
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Old 09-04-2015, 11:42 PM
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Tubeless is great until you get a flat. Then it's the worst system ever imagined.
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:44 AM
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I had real hard time with Michelin pro race 3 on both protons and Eurus

Conti 4000s were easier but still hard

Is it that era of wheel or is it me

Did rim width change over the years?
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:10 AM
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Is it worth getting the 2 way fit models?

Knowing how hard it is to remove tires from my older Eurus are 2 way fit harder to remove when used with tubes

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Seems to me you first need to decide if you want to run tubeless. If so....then get the two way fit.

If your plans are to run tubes, why get two way, get the cheaper (usually) wheels with old style size rims.
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Old 09-05-2015, 07:05 PM
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The question is if having the option is worth it and if not running tubeless does it make getting tires onn off harder

From most posts it seems it is not any harded
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