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Old 09-30-2005, 07:50 AM
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How much would YOU pay for......

With Interbike going on, we have the new crop
of carbon wonderbikes. Prices seem to range
from $1399. for the new Ibis Silk to $7000. for
the Serotta Meivici. There are obviously bikes
priced everywhere in between. How much would
you pay, what carbon frame excites you and
are you planning on buying a carbon frame soon?

By the way.....I am shopping for a Calfee Tetra.
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:05 AM
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$4400.00 for a Holland Exogrid Road. That's as carbon as I ever plan on getting. 6 month wait. That's OK, I'll need ever minute of it to save the cash! Jeff N.
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:16 AM
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so many choices and not so many reviews . I think I'll wait till the dust settles on who's brand turns out the best product WITH best warranty for the money . Right now the Ottrott looks like a STEAL . The tried and proven companies like Calfee and Parlee and Serotta as well I should add and not short Trek and Colnago will hold a commanding lead in my book with regards the build and warranty of a carbone frame .

I would like to ask if a frame is built in the far east out of carbone , if say Giant and Pinerallo have the same OEM build their frames for them would you still pay a premium for the more expensive frame knowing their built in the same plant ???
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:29 AM
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I would like to ask if a frame is built in the far east out of carbone , if say Giant and Pinerallo have the same OEM build their frames for them would you still pay a premium for the more expensive frame knowing their built in the same plant ???

Me: Well hey there you pretty 'lil thang, what's yer name?
Her: my, whats that between your legs, my fine gentleman?
Me: Oh, just my Pinerallo...(or Giant Pinerallo).

Sorry, I could'nt resist.
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:47 AM
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Me: Well hey there you pretty 'lil thang, what's yer name?
Her: my, whats that between your legs, my fine gentleman?
Me: Oh, just my Pinerallo...(or Giant Pinerallo).

Sorry, I could'nt resist.
Her: Is that your Pinerallo, or are you just happy to see me?
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:56 AM
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Bro I 'm waitin for the Sach's carbon .cheers
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:00 AM
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Gonna be a LOOOOOOONG wait!

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Bro I 'm waitin for the Sach's carbon .cheers
I doubt e-richie has ordered any carbon tubes just yet.
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:00 AM
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I'm with Smiley on this one . . .

Part of the reason--a BIG part--that I spent all the moolah on my Legend was the perceived longevity of a Ti frame. I had my last bike for 17 years and given the career earnings of ajournalist, I had to anticipate that if I'm spending $5k+ on a bike it had better last a long time.

I have no evidence yet that carbon WILL last a long time. Despite knowing that Trek and several other companies have been making carbon frames for 15 years plus, I have no firm info on what percentage of those frames are still on the road vs. steel, aluminum, Ti, etc.

Based on that, I simply cannot see spending $3k on a carbon frame, and certainly not $7k on a Meivici frame, no matter what the warranty and service history of the company is. I might spring $3k on a whole carbon bike, which means mid-level Trek OCLV, but not a lot more than that.

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Old 09-30-2005, 09:01 AM
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Back to the point.....

How many here are willing to pay over 4 bills ($4000.)
for a carbon frame? Over 3?
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:04 AM
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I'll let you know as I...

...just sold a Ottrott St and have a Cervelo r2.5 on it's way. Have ridden Trek OCLV, Cannondale six 13 and several serotta's.

As soon as I get the bike, I'll give some feedback.
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:07 AM
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I'd only pay that amount for a custom and truly hand built carbon frame. No assembly line stuff such as from the big Italian brands.
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:10 AM
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i thought about this one

quite a bit before making a bid on my ottrott st.
a year and a half ago my limit was 1775...
...now, for all carbon...
...maybe 2k
maybe.
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:12 AM
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How many here are willing to pay over 4 bills ($4000.)
for a carbon frame? Over 3?
I'm not willing to spend over 4k on carbon frame. that's stricktly because I don't need a bike. I have a nice ti Spectrum that gets everything done. If I needed a new frame, I probably still wouldn't pay over 4k. there's too many other quality choices for under 4k.

with that said, I really like the look of Meivici
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:13 AM
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Bumble Bee....

Just thinking aloud, and not being a D1ck, but using your thought process for not buying Carbon, how could you buy Ti? When you purchased your Ti bike, how long were Ti Frames around?

When we think of the question, or better the statement you said:
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I have no evidence yet that carbon WILL last a long time.
Your logic seems based on the fact that the industry had not been making them long enough. Ti would then pose a similar logic problem.

We know the tubes are gonna last, regardless of material, I guess you question relates moreso then to the joining processes, no? Do you feel, today, that the advancements in material sciences have still not gotten the manufacturing and joining of carbon composites to a high enough standard?

Dave, understand, seriously I am not being sarcastic or aggro here, I am just posing it in a more philosophical light to loo at the broader spectrum of what are the modern JUSTIFIABLE reasons for concerns with Carbon.

That said, I think your Legend is a great bike! I hate to qualifiy my statements, but it seems if you don't things can flame up fast, and that is not my intent. If it was, you'd [the collective "you"] know because my waitress at the diner, Barb, would be writing for me!!! DA DA DOO!
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:14 AM
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One of these days I'd like to add a little carbon fiber rocket to the stable just so I have one. (But not before I get my Terraplane!) I'd probably try something a little less expensive - I really like the looks of those Scott CR1 frames, with the ovalized TT and large checker pattern to the weave. At the top of my list would be a Parlee, but I don't think I'd ever want to spend more than a few grand on a CF frame. Also, I try to avoid frames that look like they were designed by the aliens in 'The Abyss', which is why I would never buy an Orca, or any of the others that come from the Star Trek design school of thought. (Not that there's anything wrong with that! -just not my cup o' tea)
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