Wolf Tooth makes a big mistake

[bicycletricycle]

Originally Posted by Louis

So, what sort of perspective are you suggesting would be required?

One that accommodates insulting grade-school humor?

Well, I guess it would depend on what you mean by accommodate. I do think that we do need to make room for people that we do not agree with. That way they might also make room for you.

Social norms move slowly and by no means universally, expecting everyone else to have the same standards as you does not work.

Obviously people are free to use their free speech and consumer dollars to make your opinions known. That is the way that a free society changes it's values.

I would prefer to live in a place that accommodates difference gracefully, especially when those differences cut closely to your most dearly held beliefs.

[dustyrider]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

What's the big deal right? Just an image that strongly implies a man having sex with another man is the worst possible outcome in a universe of outcomes, and using that homophobia to slag a competitor in the industry.

A competitor, I might add, they kinda need if anyone wants to be able to use their Wolf Tooth bits and pieces. Last I checked they don't make derailleurs.

Give it 24 hours before Wolf Tooth announces they've fired someone over this. Because they need to.

I don't see anyone having sex? I'll have to go look at the image again...

[bicycletricycle]

Originally Posted by ptourkin

Suspected this would show up and the usual suspects would claim that people are looking for a reason to be offended because homophobia is funny, haha lighten up... Pretty much the pro-podium girl crowd who retreat to their safe space when their ancient attitudes are questioned just before the thread gets locked.

the use of "safe space" here is strange, if we accept that their are sides in this, then the politically correct types are the ones that demand "safe spaces".

Homophobia and the objectification of women are not funny, one does not have to think that to make room for the people that do, what other choice do we have? political reeducation at the gulag?

[FlashUNC]

Originally Posted by dustyrider

I don't see anyone having sex? I'll have to go look at the image again...

Cmon man, don't be willfully obtuse. That's 100% what the image is implying.

[54ny77]

Ya just can't legislate against stupid.

Although, many on either side of the political spectrum have vociferously made that argument. Frankly, to me, that is more frightening than anything.

Anyway, as to Wolf whatever, dumb of the owners to not have at least policies, let alone systems and processes, in place that would prevent that kind of thing from happening without meaningful consequence (immediate termination, personal liability, etc).

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

the use of "safe space" here is strange, if we accept that their are sides in this, then the politically correct types are the ones that demand "safe spaces".

Homophobia and the objectification of women are not funny, one does not have to think that to make room for the people that do, what other choice do we have? political reeducation at the gulag?

[bicycletricycle]

Imagine a world when any offensive action or belief got a person fired

Paranoid uniformity

[beeatnik]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

Cmon man, don't be willfully obtuse. That's 100% what the image is implying.

obtuse, not often seen on bike forums or blockbuster films.

[pbarry]

It must be winter somewhere.. Go for a ride already.

[dustyrider]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

Cmon man, don't be willfully obtuse. That's 100% what the image is implying.

It hadn't occurred to me until you brought it up, but then again I don't think of homosexuality as being bad. I see a guy symbol, associated with bathrooms, and those female silhouettes, associated with trailer truck mud-flaps. You either get to hang out with two of those ladies or a group of those ladies, and we all know how fun that must be(no offense ladies)! Or you get to hang out with your bro, who probably talks about bikes and rides bikes and you know is your bro. But hey everyone's got their own baggage.

[54ny77]

Or jailed.

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

Imagine a world when any offensive action or belief got a person fired

Paranoid uniformity

[unterhausen]

we certainly live in a world where, if you do something offensive on a company's social media, you get fired. No need to blow it out of proportion.

[JAGI410]

Of all the things going on in the world, THIS is what people get upset about?

While silly, tasteless, and completely untrue, it's not worth the reaction this is getting. I have a big Wolftooth order in the cart, and this incident will not change my purchase decision. They still make incredible parts, here in Minnesota.

[Louis]

Originally Posted by JAGI410

Of all the things going on in the world, THIS is what people get upset about?

I know exactly what you mean - there's so much more important stuff to worry about. Like, where's the outrage about United Airlines not allowing girls to fly on comp tickets while wearing leggings?

[FlashUNC]

Originally Posted by dustyrider

It hadn't occurred to me until you brought it up, but then again I don't think of homosexuality as being bad. I see a guy symbol, associated with bathrooms, and those female silhouettes, associated with trailer truck mud-flaps. You either get to hang out with two of those ladies or a group of those ladies, and we all know how fun that must be(no offense ladies)! Or you get to hang out with your bro, who probably talks about bikes and rides bikes and you know is your bro. But hey everyone's got their own baggage.

Lol. Yeah sure.

[FlashUNC]

Originally Posted by bicycletricycle

Imagine a world when any offensive action or belief got a person fired

Paranoid uniformity

Imagine a world where any action that shows employees don't treat customers or competitors with respect gets them fired.

Sounds like a company worth doing business with, no?