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So the UCI says farings are not allowed on bikes but head farings are fine? At some point they should say helmets cannot extend some determined amount beyond the internal circumference. Otherwise it’s just a faring more than a protective device.
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UCI have banned the Specialized head sock thingy and have now said they're reviewing helmets in general as a category. Typical UCI stuff. Last edited by jimoots; 03-06-2024 at 06:47 PM. Reason: fixed links |
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The UCI rule book has explicit rules on the maximum dimensions of a helmet, and the Visma helmet likely fits inside those limits. But the rules also state that bikes and rider's clothing can not use fairings, i.e. have attachments or shapes that serve no purpose other than to improve aerodynamics. A helmet is supposed to provide head protection in case of a crash, although it may be shaped to minimize aerodynamic drag while serving it's safety function. But the shape of the Visma helmet, particularly the shroudiing along the lower edge of the helmet, clearly provides no crash protection, and its only function is to improve aerodynamics (i.e. is effectively a head fairing). So it could be banned under the fairing rule. |
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I think you got the quotes around the wrong word in the thread title. I propose:
New Visma Aero "Helmets" |
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The sassy Giro post includes a screenshot/scan of the UCI approval. Last edited by jimoots; 03-06-2024 at 11:15 PM. |
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Is there no way the body that writes the rules can think of any and all the possible permutations before granting approval to a commercial entity who take that approval and will go on to expend significant resources manufacturing and marketing the product? The UCI have mentioned that they are going to have a look at the POC Tempor helmet. Why does it take them 12 years to address possible violations of implicit rules? Why has it taken almost two years of use for them to decide to ban the Spec head sock? Amateur hour in Aigle, it is.
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I think the UCI should let companies make and provide pro riders whatever they want in the name of speed for bikes, equipment and apparel. These products should be F.R.O. and NOT available to the public in most cases. Teams themselves should share the time and financial burden.
I realize all this work/money with no retail channel to Fred and Wilma makes the investment less attractive and probably impossible but I'd be all for it. We as non-freak riders would still benefit from the R&D at a level more realistic to needs than desires. And let's face it the overwhelming majority of buyers have no interest in buying the fastest. That is pretty low on the list of needs and few desire it. I'm not advocating for stagnation in design and features for Joe Public mind you. Most people have no interest in joining the circus they just want to watch it. |
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well when you can't angle your levers in, you gotta get marginal gains somewhere....
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Not sure if someone has asked or answered this but doesn’t the UCI require that approved equipment must be made available for retail sale? I looked on Giro.com and didn’t see the helmet listed.
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I would be really curious if it would pass any of the tougher certifications. I find it pretty interesting pro racers seem much more willing to go along with things and just trust an aggressive manufacturer than other groups in similar risk situations like motorsports athletes. I can't find any info on whether any of the long tail aero helmets are tested... the Virginia Tech site is pretty comprehensive and they don't seem to have tested any. Last edited by benb; 03-08-2024 at 10:08 AM. |
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I think the rules originate from the first great era of TT bike experimentation, like the Lotus 110. They didn’t like that the bikes (and thus the riding positions, and ultimately the sport itself) might end up looking very much unlike they did in the distant past. |
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