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this guy can't get anything right...burn him at the state, I say! |
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I am with you Bob. Functionality before sentimentality.
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Stop in @ a Cirque and you'll see |
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There is good and bad from each decade. I find the functionality of the better parts from each period to be just fine. You think Tour riders and cross country tourers from say the 70's were walking their bikes alot? The good stuff worked well. And if the $7 Suntour RD just happened to work better than the Nuovo Record piece, so be it. |
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Heck, that's PERFECT now.
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An amusing conflation of stake and grate, both of which have been used for burning...
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That bike is perfect and looks to be my size too.
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Didn't mean to imply collectors don't ride their bikes; it's a matter of focus. I am not a "collector." Never have been, never will be; don't even begin to comprehend the drive to complete the collection. Still remember one time back in the 1970s we went for a ride up near Woodstock NY and stopped for a rest break at an antique store. Half the store was filled with phone pole insulators: every size, shape, color imaginable. And all this time, I thought there was only one, the same on every phone pole. And I still can't imagine why anyone would want even just the one, never mind an example of each kind. Utterly mystified. My interest is in "riding." I care how well it works, not whether it came standard on it when it was sold. I happily removed the Campagnolo Grand Turismo rear derailleur from my Paramount back in 1973 and replaced it first with a Shimano Titlist, and then with a SunTour VGT Luxe. The SunTour was 10X better than the Campagnolo. |
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I wouldn't count on that being the end of it. We've been here before. Dale will have something to say as will the core group of Cirquers, a great group of folks who happen to like bikes... |
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This is fairly period correct maybe including merckx saddle and cinelli engraved stem (with the belgian flag on there!)...but it is my main ride...def. aint wall art...
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps232c20ed.jpg no way I could have brought myself to put a sram part on there tho! |
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Yep. It is a 54. If you are ever up in the great white north you can take it for a long spin. 😃
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I have to start off saying that if you own the bike, you can do with it whatever makes you happy, and I'll never pass judgement on your component choices, cockpit setup or whether or not you resprayed the frame.
My own builds are colored by having worked in a bike shop in the early '80s, when lugged steel and non-indexed shifting were still modern and contemporary. None of my co-workers, buds or customers were concerned about whether their bikes were period- or catalog-correct. You showed your market knowledge and chops by upgrading to components that were better/newer than original spec. When I got back into vintage steel, I built up a few mostly period-correct bikes to re-discover what '80s drivetrains were like. And though they were fun rides, component modernity crept back in. I'm always a bit behind the curve, so no 11spd or electronic shifting yet, and just a couple bikes with disc brakes. But most everything is indexed 9/10spd, even the '70s-'80s frames. I like riding the newer components better, and don't see any difference between running 9/10 STI on a current Newvex-lugged Waterford or a '77 Nervex-lugged Schwinn Paramount. I do enjoy checking out time-capsule period-correct vintage machines, even though few/none of my own vintage frames are equipped that way. |
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Period correct.
I can enjoy and appreciate a nice period correct build it I can also be quite amused when ideas of right/wrong start being taken seriously in that context. For me, I have to enjoy it as both art and as a machine . So the latter implies that I will ride the bike...sometimes hard and really putting it through its paces. So I have no interest in owning a bike that I don't enjoy riding. I am lucky to have a lot of bikes so I am able to choose to keep some in their "period" 6 or 7 cog freewheel/downtube shifter settings and I enjoy them that way. I do put more miles on modern builds but I would attribute that to doing more pointed "training" in the last few years.
When I build up a frame it is always a interesting evolvement. I usually have a purpose, a theme (maybe retro-modern? Period? Frankenbike? A color? Whatever) and a collection of parts I plan on using. What is interesting is that as it begins to take shape, the concept always evolves based on feel, "gut", maybe a technical glitch with parts or something. Anyway, it always ends up a bit of a process and maybe a bit of iterative experience for me in the workshop but THAT is really the driver more than anything else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Looking at the moment to connect with my past......and cycling's.
And away we go. |
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Period correct.
Period correct is kinda cool, but not where it compromises ride quality. My Serotta track bike is all C Record Pista. Because I like it. My 91 Litespeed is Chorus 11. I am actually building up an older Serotta with 6400 tricolor, but only because it looks good and the group is in great shape.
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