Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-17-2014, 12:49 PM
Look585's Avatar
Look585 Look585 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,029
Mixed 5800 / 6800 Group - Choices?

If one was building a group from the 5800/6800 menu, where would you spend the extra $$$ for Ultegra and where would you opt for the value of 5800?

Cassette & Chain is easy (5800). What else? I don't need a BB/crank, but feel free to comment for posterity.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-17-2014, 12:56 PM
josephr's Avatar
josephr josephr is offline
coffee consumer
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: traveler
Posts: 2,655
RD and shifters....but even those are overkill unless you just like spending money.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-17-2014, 12:57 PM
bluesea's Avatar
bluesea bluesea is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the former Territory of Hawaii
Posts: 3,883
My uninformed strictly-for-aesthetics choice, would be Dura Ace brakes and crankset.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-17-2014, 01:11 PM
beeatnik beeatnik is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,897
In cost-savings mode, I went with 105 shifters, cranks, and 6800 FD/RD. The Cielo takes long reach brakes so not sure which brakeset I'd choose otherwise. 5800 brakes are brick tho at close to 450g.

The consensus over at Weight Weenies is that 105 RDs and shifters wear out after a few hard seasons.




I love the cranks.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-17-2014, 01:33 PM
Gummee Gummee is offline
Old, Fat & Slow
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NoVA for now
Posts: 6,468
Personally? Shifters and rear der. = 6800. Everything else = 5800

I've done that with a 9k + Ultegra mix

M
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-17-2014, 03:30 PM
oldpotatoe's Avatar
oldpotatoe oldpotatoe is offline
Proud Grandpa
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Republic of Boulder, USA
Posts: 47,036
Quote:
Originally Posted by beeatnik View Post
In cost-savings mode, I went with 105 shifters, cranks, and 6800 FD/RD. The Cielo takes long reach brakes so not sure which brakeset I'd choose otherwise. 5800 brakes are brick tho at close to 450g.

The consensus over at Weight Weenies is that 105 RDs and shifters wear out after a few hard seasons.




I love the cranks.
And they would know that how? That this lower end stuff wears out in a couple of seasons? 5800 isn't even one season old and all 11s stuff is completely different than 10s.

I'd say except for covert and chain, aesthetics will determine choice.
__________________
Chisholm's Custom Wheels
Qui Si Parla Campagnolo
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-19-2014, 10:18 AM
mktng's Avatar
mktng mktng is offline
That guy..
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,076
I've been looking at doing this as well. 6800 RD and Shifters. 5800 FD chains and Cassettes.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-19-2014, 11:56 AM
Look585's Avatar
Look585 Look585 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,029
With today's Ribble sale, it didn't make sense to get cute anywhere. 6800 tip to tail, with options tailored to me, for <$600???

When I need a new chain or cassette I can swap in a 5800.

Thanks for the opinions folks!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-19-2014, 02:36 PM
mktng's Avatar
mktng mktng is offline
That guy..
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,076
Quote:
Originally Posted by Look585 View Post
With today's Ribble sale, it didn't make sense to get cute anywhere. 6800 tip to tail, with options tailored to me, for <$600???

When I need a new chain or cassette I can swap in a 5800.

Thanks for the opinions folks!
Yea. Quite funny how the crazy sale came up. Totally backed out of the whole mix matching. 5800 all the way
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-19-2014, 04:39 PM
stephenmarklay stephenmarklay is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 5,021
I am trying to decide on Athena or 6800. HMMM
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-20-2014, 06:58 AM
oldpotatoe's Avatar
oldpotatoe oldpotatoe is offline
Proud Grandpa
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Republic of Boulder, USA
Posts: 47,036
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenmarklay View Post
I am trying to decide on Athena or 6800. HMMM
Too bad 6800 pricing is what it is. Not 'too bad' but.... 'Normal' retail puts it closer to Chorus. I think comparitively Chorus and 6800 are very 'similar', and then DA and Record. Athena and 5800. BUT...not gonna say it tho.

Get 2014 Chorus levers and the rest Athena.
__________________
Chisholm's Custom Wheels
Qui Si Parla Campagnolo
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-20-2014, 07:37 AM
shovelhd's Avatar
shovelhd shovelhd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Western MA
Posts: 6,379
I use 5800 chains with 9070. No good reason not to.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-20-2014, 01:55 PM
beeatnik beeatnik is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,897
Quote:
Originally Posted by stephenmarklay View Post
I am trying to decide on Athena or 6800. HMMM
Get 5800. Don't waste your money on the other 2.

First off, they all work great.

But, the key to enjoying a good deal is feeling that your money was well spent. Opportunity costs and all that. There's nothing comparable to 5800 for the money. It's cheap stuff not masquerading as high end. If it's nicely finished, well, that's a bonus. On the other hand, 6800 and Athena (positioned as mid-level components) look cheap and feel cheap. And even if you spend under $600 on each, you're still getting a low(er) quality component. Sure, 6800 and Athena are relative bargains compared to Chorus (Dura Ace) but so is a Movado compared to the lowest priced Rolex. Movado might last as long and even impress a hick in Vegas but it's still a Movado.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.