T-handle bondhus or a cry for help

[pinkshogun]

I took these in trade for a little bike work. Y wrenches and loose allens are all I've ever used. Will adding these to the clutter make my life a little easier?

signed, A. Tool Horda

[cmbicycles]

Finally, a workbench that I can identify with. They will make some jobs easier, nice to have options. You just need to be able to find them when you need them.

[vqdriver]

yes, t handles are very comfy to use if not the best for tight spots.
you know, of course, that a couple bins or pegboard would probably serve you better

[parris]

I've had that same set for several years and they're really nice. Of course I've also got Y wrenches and regular Allen wrenches as well.

I agree with the peg board or bins comment. They'd make it much easier to find the tools you want as well as freeing up a good work surface.

[zmudshark]

Yes, they will make your life easier.

Would you like to sell that cotter press (if it's not busticated)?

[stien]

I used some old kitchen cabinets mounted to the wall above my workbench with the doors removed as some tool storage. I highly recommend it.

I also sold ALL of my extra parts this weekend. I don't know what I'll do!

[chuckroast]

I like my T handles a lot but in fairness I mounted them to the wall right above my workbench so I would actually remember that I had them...

[11.4]

Dear A. Tool Horda,

You should not feel concerned. This happens to all of us. Cyclist think that the n+1 rule applies to bikes, but it actually started with tools. Let me explain how this develops.

First, you start with a cyclist's multitool. It's a useless set of allen keys that never includes the one small size you need, and the whole thing has no leverage, is too bulky to be accessible to the bolt head in question, and it pinches your fingers.

Next you go to loose tools from the hardware store. Bondhus allen wrenches are a good example. Good wrenches, actually, and you can actually go n+14 if you get the jumbo set.

But you lust for more. You want that ability to crank on your stem with all the gusto you'd put into the crank detonator connected to the C4 in a James Bond movie. You'll even wear cufflinks to get that ability. And then you start to find satisfaction. There are Y-wrenches, T-wrenches, stick wrenches, hex tips on screw guns, hex tips on screwdrivers, hex tips on torque wrenches, integrated hex tips on torque wrenches (you get to count those twice). Then there's the belt buckle with the fold-out chain tool and the little studs on the front that are ... if you look closely ... the torx tips you've been longing for. So for want of a simple cheap cyclist multitool, you now are at n+87 and climbing. Each has its purpose. Each has its mission. What you now need to do is be sure that each has its home. More tools are required to accomplish that goal. Drills, drill bits, countersinks, jig saw, orbital sander, and somewhere in there you know you'll need a tig welder. You always will need a tig welder. You aren't serious until you've eyed a tig welder. And a decent one. A Miller Syncroweld is about the baseline for an n+1. (Yes, Alice, it does get harder to score points as you go farther down the hole.)

Have we mentioned the parts drawer? You aren't buying tools without buying parts? Button head allen bolts in all the lengths and threadings. Nylok nuts. If you're installing fenders on your bike you need at least thirty different types of hardware that your fenders don't come with. Pretty soon you'll realize that your tool collection isn't as insidious as your parts collection (when you have spares of all the various parts to build a pair of Phil Wood track hubs, you'll understand). So now you're approaching that point that we all reach here where bike collection is not a sin, nor is tool collection. It's simply a necessary way of life if we're to excel on a bike. I'm not defining what excelling on a bike is supposed to mean, but sometimes the world is simply ambiguous (like when your wife asks what n bikes is and you quote her n-12).

This is only a very superficial tour of life as an essential cyclist. There's such a metaphysical element to life as a cyclist. And when you walk through the pearly gates, you definitely want to walk through with your best allen wrenches in hand, just in case there's a bolt on the pearly gates that needs attention. Carrying that wrench will bring you bonus points in the eyes of the Almighty.

[weisan]

Originally Posted by 11.4

Dear A. Tool Horda,

You should not feel concerned. This happens to all of us. Cyclist think that the n+1 rule applies to bikes, but it actually started with tools. Let me explain how this develops.

First, you start with a cyclist's multitool. It's a useless set of allen keys that never includes the one small size you need, and the whole thing has no leverage, is too bulky to be accessible to the bolt head in question, and it pinches your fingers.

Next you go to loose tools from the hardware store. Bondhus allen wrenches are a good example. Good wrenches, actually, and you can actually go n+14 if you get the jumbo set.

But you lust for more. You want that ability to crank on your stem with all the gusto you'd put into the crank detonator connected to the C4 in a James Bond movie. You'll even wear cufflinks to get that ability. And then you start to find satisfaction. There are Y-wrenches, T-wrenches, stick wrenches, hex tips on screw guns, hex tips on screwdrivers, hex tips on torque wrenches, integrated hex tips on torque wrenches (you get to count those twice). Then there's the belt buckle with the fold-out chain tool and the little studs on the front that are ... if you look closely ... the torx tips you've been longing for. So for want of a simple cheap cyclist multitool, you now are at n+87 and climbing. Each has its purpose. Each has its mission. What you now need to do is be sure that each has its home. More tools are required to accomplish that goal. Drills, drill bits, countersinks, jig saw, orbital sander, and somewhere in there you know you'll need a tig welder. You always will need a tig welder. You aren't serious until you've eyed a tig welder. And a decent one. A Miller Syncroweld is about the baseline for an n+1. (Yes, Alice, it does get harder to score points as you go farther down the hole.)

Have we mentioned the parts drawer? You aren't buying tools without buying parts? Button head allen bolts in all the lengths and threadings. Nylok nuts. If you're installing fenders on your bike you need at least thirty different types of hardware that your fenders don't come with. Pretty soon you'll realize that your tool collection isn't as insidious as your parts collection (when you have spares of all the various parts to build a pair of Phil Wood track hubs, you'll understand). So now you're approaching that point that we all reach here where bike collection is not a sin, nor is tool collection. It's simply a necessary way of life if we're to excel on a bike. I'm not defining what excelling on a bike is supposed to mean, but sometimes the world is simply ambiguous (like when your wife asks what n bikes is and you quote her n-12).

This is only a very superficial tour of life as an essential cyclist. There's such a metaphysical element to life as a cyclist. And when you walk through the pearly gates, you definitely want to walk through with your best allen wrenches in hand, just in case there's a bolt on the pearly gates that needs attention. Carrying that wrench will bring you bonus points in the eyes of the Almighty.

11.4 pal wrote this script.

[zmudshark]

Originally Posted by 11.4

Dear A. Tool Horda,

You should not feel concerned. This happens to all of us. Cyclist think that the n+1 rule applies to bikes, but it actually started with tools. Let me explain how this develops.

First, you start with a cyclist's multitool. It's a useless set of allen keys that never includes the one small size you need, and the whole thing has no leverage, is too bulky to be accessible to the bolt head in question, and it pinches your fingers.

Next you go to loose tools from the hardware store. Bondhus allen wrenches are a good example. Good wrenches, actually, and you can actually go n+14 if you get the jumbo set.

But you lust for more. You want that ability to crank on your stem with all the gusto you'd put into the crank detonator connected to the C4 in a James Bond movie. You'll even wear cufflinks to get that ability. And then you start to find satisfaction. There are Y-wrenches, T-wrenches, stick wrenches, hex tips on screw guns, hex tips on screwdrivers, hex tips on torque wrenches, integrated hex tips on torque wrenches (you get to count those twice). Then there's the belt buckle with the fold-out chain tool and the little studs on the front that are ... if you look closely ... the torx tips you've been longing for. So for want of a simple cheap cyclist multitool, you now are at n+87 and climbing. Each has its purpose. Each has its mission. What you now need to do is be sure that each has its home. More tools are required to accomplish that goal. Drills, drill bits, countersinks, jig saw, orbital sander, and somewhere in there you know you'll need a tig welder. You always will need a tig welder. You aren't serious until you've eyed a tig welder. And a decent one. A Miller Syncroweld is about the baseline for an n+1. (Yes, Alice, it does get harder to score points as you go farther down the hole.)

Have we mentioned the parts drawer? You aren't buying tools without buying parts? Button head allen bolts in all the lengths and threadings. Nylok nuts. If you're installing fenders on your bike you need at least thirty different types of hardware that your fenders don't come with. Pretty soon you'll realize that your tool collection isn't as insidious as your parts collection (when you have spares of all the various parts to build a pair of Phil Wood track hubs, you'll understand). So now you're approaching that point that we all reach here where bike collection is not a sin, nor is tool collection. It's simply a necessary way of life if we're to excel on a bike. I'm not defining what excelling on a bike is supposed to mean, but sometimes the world is simply ambiguous (like when your wife asks what n bikes is and you quote her n-12).

This is only a very superficial tour of life as an essential cyclist. There's such a metaphysical element to life as a cyclist. And when you walk through the pearly gates, you definitely want to walk through with your best allen wrenches in hand, just in case there's a bolt on the pearly gates that needs attention. Carrying that wrench will bring you bonus points in the eyes of the Almighty.

Tool slut.

[gasman]

Originally Posted by 11.4

Dear A. Tool Horda,

You should not feel concerned. This happens to all of us. Cyclist think that the n+1 rule applies to bikes, but it actually started with tools. Let me explain how this develops.

First, you start with a cyclist's multitool. It's a useless set of allen keys that never includes the one small size you need, and the whole thing has no leverage, is too bulky to be accessible to the bolt head in question, and it pinches your fingers.

Next you go to loose tools from the hardware store. Bondhus allen wrenches are a good example. Good wrenches, actually, and you can actually go n+14 if you get the jumbo set.

But you lust for more. You want that ability to crank on your stem with all the gusto you'd put into the crank detonator connected to the C4 in a James Bond movie. You'll even wear cufflinks to get that ability. And then you start to find satisfaction. There are Y-wrenches, T-wrenches, stick wrenches, hex tips on screw guns, hex tips on screwdrivers, hex tips on torque wrenches, integrated hex tips on torque wrenches (you get to count those twice). Then there's the belt buckle with the fold-out chain tool and the little studs on the front that are ... if you look closely ... the torx tips you've been longing for. So for want of a simple cheap cyclist multitool, you now are at n+87 and climbing. Each has its purpose. Each has its mission. What you now need to do is be sure that each has its home. More tools are required to accomplish that goal. Drills, drill bits, countersinks, jig saw, orbital sander, and somewhere in there you know you'll need a tig welder. You always will need a tig welder. You aren't serious until you've eyed a tig welder. And a decent one. A Miller Syncroweld is about the baseline for an n+1. (Yes, Alice, it does get harder to score points as you go farther down the hole.)

Have we mentioned the parts drawer? You aren't buying tools without buying parts? Button head allen bolts in all the lengths and threadings. Nylok nuts. If you're installing fenders on your bike you need at least thirty different types of hardware that your fenders don't come with. Pretty soon you'll realize that your tool collection isn't as insidious as your parts collection (when you have spares of all the various parts to build a pair of Phil Wood track hubs, you'll understand). So now you're approaching that point that we all reach here where bike collection is not a sin, nor is tool collection. It's simply a necessary way of life if we're to excel on a bike. I'm not defining what excelling on a bike is supposed to mean, but sometimes the world is simply ambiguous (like when your wife asks what n bikes is and you quote her n-12).

This is only a very superficial tour of life as an essential cyclist. There's such a metaphysical element to life as a cyclist. And when you walk through the pearly gates, you definitely want to walk through with your best allen wrenches in hand, just in case there's a bolt on the pearly gates that needs attention. Carrying that wrench will bring you bonus points in the eyes of the Almighty.

This. Just. Made. My. Week.

[SoCalSteve]

Originally Posted by gasman

This. Just. Made. My. Week.

Me too!!!

Gotta love Lane...

[soulspinner]

digging on the STP bottle...........

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by pinkshogun

I took these in trade for a little bike work. Y wrenches and loose allens are all I've ever used. Will adding these to the clutter make my life a little easier?

signed, A. Tool Horda

My solution is to make sure the tools have bright colored handles..easier to find in my bench's tool explosion..gray blends in too much. The little stands go in the trash..

[Tandem Rider]

Even more points are available for those who also collec er I mean work on other things in addition to bicycles.