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Old 09-01-2014, 08:55 AM
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Campagnolo EPS, worth the weight penalty?

I am strongly considering getting Campagnolo SR EPS to build up on a new custom that is in the works.

Mechanical SR comes in at about 1.6 lbs, and SR EPS around 2.1 lbs. That's a hefty difference.

I was wondering if there are many out there with EPS experience good and bad? Is it's performance worth the hit in weight? Is durability up to par?

Thanks!
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:12 AM
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0.4 pounds is a weight penalty how? Two swigs of water? 0.2% weight increase in the combined bike + rider! There is no way you could ever notice the difference (well beyond the resolution of human physiology) and unless you are climbing 20km ascents at >5% then there is no performance difference that you could ever measure. So the question is about the technology and cost. If you like both then go for it, if not stay with mechanical. Both work just fine and are well tested and proven at this point.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:15 AM
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Black Dog, thanks. My wallet is about to get lighter now too! Much better on the climbs for sure.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:35 AM
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Pros
- Smoother and better ergonomics overall (ergo body is ever slightly bigger than mechanical, IMO better feel)
- Shifting from small to big chainring is significantly better than mechanical
- Shifting from the drops with the thumb shifter is easier
- Specifically on frame with complex internal routing, zero cable friction issues or sharp bend problems
- Auto trimming on FD

Cons
- For multi shifts up/down, it's not as precise as mechanical (imagine, push buttons vs ratchet system).
- Unlike mechanical, EPS is difficult to troubleshoot should there be an issue.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:38 AM
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Campagnolo EPS, worth the weight penalty?

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Pros

- Smoother and better ergonomics overall (ergo body is ever slightly bigger than mechanical, IMO better feel)

- Shifting from small to big chainring is significantly better than mechanical

- Shifting from the drops with the thumb shifter is easier

- Specifically on frame with complex internal routing, zero cable friction issues or sharp bend problems

- Auto trimming on FD



Cons

- For multi shifts up/down, it's not as precise as mechanical (imagine, push buttons vs ratchet system).

- Unlike mechanical, EPS is difficult to troubleshoot should there be an issue.

Exactly my thoughts as well.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:39 AM
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I am strongly considering getting Campagnolo SR EPS to build up on a new custom that is in the works.

Mechanical SR comes in at about 1.6 lbs, and SR EPS around 2.1 lbs. That's a hefty difference.

I was wondering if there are many out there with EPS experience good and bad? Is it's performance worth the hit in weight? Is durability up to par?

Thanks!
200 grams....3 powerbars, hardly 'hefty', with a 85,000 or so gram package, bike and rider and water and clothes and shoes and....I've had EPS for about 6 months, haven't needed to touch it, charged battery once. It is really keen. Firmly in the nice to have category, not needed at all particularly when compared to Campagnolo mechanical but it is really keen. 'Worth' is a big word.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:40 AM
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Was worth it for me for the change in front shifting alone.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:40 AM
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Pros
- Smoother and better ergonomics overall (ergo body is ever slightly bigger than mechanical, IMO better feel)
- Shifting from small to big chainring is significantly better than mechanical
- Shifting from the drops with the thumb shifter is easier
- Specifically on frame with complex internal routing, zero cable friction issues or sharp bend problems
- Auto trimming on FD

Cons
- For multi shifts up/down, it's not as precise as mechanical (imagine, push buttons vs ratchet system).
- Unlike mechanical, EPS is difficult to troubleshoot should there be an issue.
EPS tells you where the fault is. Not much 'fixing' tho...replacing.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:43 AM
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Would the difference between Chorus and Record be as marginal as Ultegra is to DA?

I want to make the jump but I'm trying to justify the price rationally.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:50 AM
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Would the difference between Chorus and Record be as marginal as Ultegra is to DA?

I want to make the jump but I'm trying to justify the price rationally.
I have Athena and played around with both Record and SR EPS. There's no functional difference other than weight.

I figured I could stand to lose another pound or two off my fat butt to make up for the difference.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:53 AM
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I would not call the difference between Ultegra Di2 and DA Di2 marginal.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:56 AM
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Would the difference between Chorus and Record be as marginal as Ultegra is to DA?

I want to make the jump but I'm trying to justify the price rationally.
Get my athena with carbon ut cranks instead. Yours for 1250 shipped + 25 in a us power cable.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:23 PM
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Campagnolo EPS, worth the weight penalty?

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I would not call the difference between Ultegra Di2 and DA Di2 marginal.
Apart from weight and finish, what's the difference? It's electronic, so how can shifting be different? Honest question.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:31 PM
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Get my athena with carbon ut cranks instead. Yours for 1250 shipped + 25 in a us power cable.
shameless plug or super deal?

Pretty sure thats about $500 less than online prices.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:31 PM
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shameless plug or super deal?

Pretty sure thats about $500 less than online prices.
Both i guess.
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