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Old 05-22-2013, 12:02 AM
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New (to me) Yamaguchi

(First post--hope I'm posting in the right place.)

I picked this bike up on a local classifieds site, and have absolutely fallen for it. It's a 1995 Yamaguchi Team USA road bike. The bike has definitely been ridden, and I plan to continue to do so. The paint, while striking, has the scrapes and chips that you would expect. I can't bring myself to cut the steerer tube, since the fork is original.



I'm still working to see if I can find the exact geometry from Mr. Yamaguchi, but this much I do know: this bike is very quick, yet somehow becomes super stable when descending/really moving. It is a blast to ride.

Here are a few more attempts at showing off the workmanship of this frame. I had trouble capturing one of my favorite features of the frameset--the shaping of the tubes--really beautiful work, but beyond my meager photography skills to capture.





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Old 05-22-2013, 12:38 AM
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Holy crap.
That's awesome.
Put campy on that.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:19 AM
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Exceptional.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:19 AM
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Nice.

You're in the right place.

Perhaps a -17* stem if you don't want to cut the fork?

Looks sweet.
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:36 AM
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Absolutely gorgeous!

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Old 05-22-2013, 06:41 AM
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You certainly are in the right place.....That Yama is smokin'!!!

Yamaguchi has always been on my shortlist. I don't think he gets enough love for the level of skill and craftsmanship he brings to the table.

Thank you for sharing!





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Old 05-22-2013, 08:24 AM
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Thanks for the kind words, all. I certainly feel lucky to have come across this frame at a price I could afford (well, at a price I could justify, in any case).

As for dressing the frame properly, that will have to wait for a while--I splurged on the bike as a graduation gift to myself (somehow I spent more than 10 years in graduate school--sheesh), and it will be quite a while before anything Campy is in my price range again.

After having ridden the frame in its current setup for a while now, I do sometimes feel that I am too far out in front of the frame. I'm hoping to find a setback seatpost to see if that makes things a little bit more comfortable. It's an interesting process fine-tuning fit on a bike whose geometry remains something of a mystery. When I stand the bike next to my CAAD9, the wheelbase is significantly shorter (I think I measured it at 3 cm shorter, with most of the difference in length coming in the front end).
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:55 AM
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Yamaguchi is one of those guys who is incredibly under-rated.

Amazing bikes.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:48 AM
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Yamaguchi is one of those guys who is incredibly under-rated.

Amazing bikes.
only under-rated by those who dont know who he is...

hes taught a some of the best "new" builders (icarus -and tomii-, 611, bishop -- just off the top of my head) these days everything they know.
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oh, and...



...on the bike

love that paint!
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:57 AM
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only under-rated by those who dont know who he is...

hes taught a some of the best "new" builders (icarus -and tomii-, 611, bishop -- just off the top of my head) these days everything they know.
Also Johnny Coast.

Beautiful bike!
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:01 AM
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...hes taught a some of the best "new" builders (icarus -and tomii-, 611, bishop -- just off the top of my head) these days everything they know.
And Meech (Dimitri) as well. You can definitely see Koichi's influence in his students work. When I saw Ian's work for the first time it screamed "Yamaguchi" to me. Both Icarus and Meech are highlighted in the Builder Spotlight section.






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Old 05-22-2013, 10:15 AM
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only under-rated by those who dont know who he is...

hes taught a some of the best "new" builders (icarus -and tomii-, 611, bishop -- just off the top of my head) these days everything they know.
Totally agree, I just think he should be more well-known given the quality of his work and history in the biz.

You throw out a "Best framebuilders" thread, and it'll be a while before you see someone mention Yamaguchi.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:23 AM
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good idea.

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You're in the right place.

Perhaps a -17* stem if you don't want to cut the fork?

Looks sweet.
There are stem/angle/lengh calculators out there that can help you figure out how much spacer height you need to put the bars at the same height and reach. I like prefer the angle of the stem and the top tube to be closer to each other than the stem being slammed with positive angle.
A -17 would probably even out the steer tube length a bit.

Beautiful bike.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:39 AM
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You're in the right place.

Perhaps a -17* stem if you don't want to cut the fork?

Looks sweet.
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There are stem/angle/lengh calculators out there that can help you figure out how much spacer height you need to put the bars at the same height and reach. I like prefer the angle of the stem and the top tube to be closer to each other than the stem being slammed with positive angle.
A -17 would probably even out the steer tube length a bit.

Beautiful bike.
I'll have to try out some different stem options. Put the above together as it replicated my current riding position quite closely, using parts that I had on hand. I believe the pictured stem is a -6, I'll have to see if a -17 comes closer to parallel with the top tube.

Thanks for the tips!
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