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Tomii Canvas again
When this first went up, there was some griping about the stated max tire clearance of 25c. This build on Radavist definitely shows a 28 on there. Anyone have one of these?
http://theradavist.com/2017/10/tomii...-all-day-road/
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Hey, he lives in Texas.
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on fenders...
pros keep your feet and ass dry...ish cons annoying to install constantly rattling over rough terrain trap debris increase toe overlap add weight impossible to clean without removing from bike if its truly wet/raining, you are screwed without proper rain gear for your body and feet, with or without fenders. i used to commute with fenders every day, until i realized this above truth and just invested in good waterproof shoes/shoe covers, pants, and jacket. sure, fenders can temper a little spray off the ground if its wet-but-not-raining but yea i dunno...a little spray is a small price to pay for not having fenders on your bike. ----- tire clearance... an enve fork can fit a 28 stating a max size of 25 covers nao's ass should one of you decide to stick a 25c tire on a 25mm+ wide rim (which would likely measure closer to 27/28...) so yea, i would wager you could fit "28's" in there but like ANY clearance situation, its heavily dependent on rim/tire combo Last edited by eBAUMANN; 10-03-2017 at 10:43 AM. |
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I super hate everything about fenders... Ass saver pop ons are enough for anything I care about riding in. Staying dry for any length of time in the rain while exercising is a myth. In nice rain gear I just make my own little bio climate and it turns into the amazon inside my jacket anyway.
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The fact is, he should have put fender mounts on it. I am sorry, I know he is your friend and he makes incredible bikes but a bike like this would have been 10x cooler with a whisky road plus fork, room for 32mm tires or 28mm with fenders. The fork has fender mounts. Still a cool bike and I love all thing tommii but it just could have been that much better |
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Ask anyone in the PNW who rides year round and they will say that fenders are essential.
I don't do organized group rides but from what I have heard, fenders are mandatory on winter rides. If you don't have them, you cant go. It's that wet here and fenders make that much of a difference. I used cheap SKS ones and I have Honjos on my commuter - the SKSs are definitely lower maintenance and simpler. Honjos just look cool. I love fenders, personally... |
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nice bike! although i don't see many uses for the small rear rack.
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I could of course be imagining this but in my mind it makes as much sense as fenders keeping a drivetrain clean I agree that spec'ing a whisky fork would have been smart and that fender mounts would have been an easy add-on...perhaps if enough people are willing to put their money where their mouth is and email nao, he would be willing to make a batch of frames with exactly that spec. i think his idea for the canvas was to make a road frame with a little more functionality for carrying a few more essentials out to a swimming hole, and back...not much more. also, if i had to use mid or long reach brakes on that frame to accomodate bigger tires...i would be unhappy...most brakes of that ilk suck, hard. if you wanna ride 32's, just get a "gravel" bike with disc brakes and such. a bike that like has the ability to combine 2/3 bikes into one, if designed correctly. just my 2c. |
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If you want a Tomii with fender mounts, I'm sure he would happily build you one.
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And, yes, it's a fair point to say that Tomii can and should do what he wants. I'm sure if people with their wallets out want fender mounts and a Whisky fork he'll make it happen. |
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And yes, I can say with a great deal of certainty that if 5-10 people got together deposits/whatever and contacted Nao to build a run of whisky forked/fender mount canvas's, he would be more than happy to oblige. |
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i would love a bike spec'd just the way this one is.
i ride a very small frame size, and that rear rack would be perfect to keep a carradice typed bag out of the rear wheel when i decide to run one for credit card typed touring. i dont ride much (intentionally) in the rain, but when i do, i have a rain bike or use a clip on rear fender, so dedicated fender mounts are a non issue for me on a bike like this. additionally, i do have a few bikes with mid reach calipers, and think they work just great (VO brakes and TRP...), but record short reach brakes, do, in fact - work better. i would definitely ride one!
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the VO gran cru brakes are excellent. As good as any campy brake I have used. I love that rack too, would have been real cool to have on my hampsten.
I would glady get him to build me a bike, if only I had the space and cash. Def one of my favorite "new" builders |
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