Fair value for a gunnar crosshairs?

[Tpayne]

I'm thinking of buying one for $675. Haven't seen the bike in person but frame/paint looks to be in good condition and probably no more than 10 years old.

Has a mix of old ultegra parts and mediocre wheels so will need some upgrading down the line.

If anyone has thoughts, let me know.

[Bentley]

I really cant give an honest opinion without pics, but I bought an IF PlanetX used for less.

Ray

[Tpayne]

crosshairs

[Bentley]

So its definitely a nice bike, but you said you were going to replace all the components and wheels, so honestly I cant see paying that for the bike. What is the condition of the components, look like 9 speed shimano so I would guess you could get $150 for the group, maybe $75-100 for the wheels, so that would get the frame down to $450ish, which to me would still be on the high side. I think you could find something as good if not better here on the forum.

I would probably offer $550 and ride the crap out of it, then switch the components out.

Ray

[cmg]

if the paint in good shape, pay the $675 and get bike. EBay the parts you don't want and cobble away. especially if it looks likes the one on this thread.

[Tpayne]

eventually I could upgrade my Legend Ti parts and swap those onto this bike.

attaching another pic, it's the only one where I can see some possible blemishes in paint around the chain stays. I'll have to really judge it in person.

[Gummee]

Gunnars had soft paint.

Mine's in better shape overall, but still has a few spots.

Mine's also built with 6800, hence the price bump.

M

[weiwentg]

Consider asking for the serial number, then call Gunnar direct and ask if the geometry or specifications has changed. They may not correspond exactly to the current posted specs. Any changes should be minor, but there's a possibility that frame may not have stainless steel dropouts - which, again, may be minor to you. But worth knowing. Anyway, Gunnar was very responsive when I asked them for info on a used frame.

Can't really comment on fair value. I agree your net cost for the frameset, if not keeping the wheels or components, is something like $500. I guess I'd ask, do I know I want that frame for sure, and if so, is that price worth it? I don't think you're likely to see a lot of used 52cm Gunnar Crosshairs frames for sale, so if it has to be a Crosshairs and if you need it this season, then if the frame's in good condition, I don't think $500 is exorbitant. If you can fit another frame and you'd consider another frame, then you should think about that.

My proportions are a bit strange, and I actually fit Gunnars really well. The Specialized Crux is a bit short in the TT for me, but could work. It was one of those two when I was shopping. I found a line on a Crosshairs and went for it.

[Ken Robb]

I have yet to meet a Gunnar or other Waterford bike I didn't like. Gunnars have been offered with the option of upgrading paint to the same nice quality of regular Waterfords. I'll guess they are pretty rarely on the used market.

[msl819]

It may not be a big deal to you but that have a 1" headtube. That would be good to know and if 1" I'd negotiate that to my favor.

[hummus_aquinas]

That paint-matched stem is cool! 1" steerers still rule.

[msl819]

Originally Posted by hummus_aquinas

That paint-matched stem is cool! 1" steerers still rule.

Yep... but could limit some possibilities down the road. I had one similar sized with a 1" steerer. Still the bike I most regret selling.

[weiwentg]

Originally Posted by msl819

Yep... but could limit some possibilities down the road. I had one similar sized with a 1" steerer. Still the bike I most regret selling.

Well, in addition to that, there is the fact that that bike is set up for cantilever mounts. That restricts your braking choices, unless you replace the fork for one with disc mounts (I imagine that would have to be custom steel if it's a 1" steerer?). Is that substantively bad? Only you can decide!

[Gummee]

Originally Posted by weiwentg

Well, in addition to that, there is the fact that that bike is set up for cantilever mounts. That restricts your braking choices, unless you replace the fork for one with disc mounts (I imagine that would have to be custom steel if it's a 1" steerer?). Is that substantively bad? Only you can decide!

I've got 8.4 TRPs on mine. Stops just fine thankyouverymuch

M

[mistermo]

Apparently there's a 1" steerer Alpha Q carbon fork on that Steelman in the classifieds. I'd make a strong run at that. I've got a steel Steelman fork that would be better suited for that frame anyway.