OT: Rolling Coal

[Ahneida Ride]

Here is a most disturbing video ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV7lO_1kWfo

[redir]

What the hell does that have to do with rolling coal?

[Schmed]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Even when I put my foot into my Jetta TDI, it smokes not at all...Glad I do own one..particularly since diesel $ and regular gas $ is only about $.10 difference..and I get 40+ mpg, mixed driving, 47 or so on the highway.

I have a 2009 3/4 ton Dodge diesel. No smoke no matter what I do with the 'go' pedal. Since 2007, all diesels have DPF (diesel particulate filters) and much more emissions equipment. Our 2004 diesel burps black smoke if you floor it since it doesn't have the DPF.

Some owners of post-2007 trucks remove the DPF (illegally) to improve fuel milage (2-3 mpg better) and/or be able to roll coal.

[bcroslin]

Originally Posted by Ahneida Ride

Here is a most disturbing video ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV7lO_1kWfo

Huh? What's that got to do with diesel trucks?

[sg8357]

So who wants to rig a Van DeGraf generator on their Chevy Volt ?

Here is a real coal roller, coal gas powered car, none of that foreign oil for this guy.

[avalonracing]

Originally Posted by pbarry

That said, don't know why you chose to go "there" in your last sentence.

You are right, no need to go there. Not relevant or fair.
Anyway he just as well may be a Buddhist as he fits the stereotype.

[Elefantino]

Originally Posted by redir

A Libertarian point of view? To be clear a true Libertarian would object to rolling coal as it causes harm to persons and property. Sure you can be a D-bag all you want, that's your freedom of choice but when it affects another person or property then it's not acceptable, crosses the line of expression.

Not so much Libertarian as Ignoretarian.

If someone belches smoke in front of me, well, they hate and there's not a lot I can do about it except ignore it. Same with people who bleat about "our side vs. the other side" in politics or religion (of course, what's the difference?) or sports or whatever. People get torqued. Why add to it?

[redir]

Originally Posted by Elefantino

Not so much Libertarian as Ignoretarian.

If someone belches smoke in front of me, well, they hate and there's not a lot I can do about it except ignore it. Same with people who bleat about "our side vs. the other side" in politics or religion (of course, what's the difference?) or sports or whatever. People get torqued. Why add to it?

Oh yeah I agree because really all they are is a troll on the road and they are looking for your angry reaction. It really is best to simply ignore it as far as that goes.

[john903]

This is an interesting topic, I have big, loud, obnoxious diesel pick ups do this occasionally too. Silly me being an old diesel mechanic from my Coast Guard days I naively thought their truck was just running like crap and was seriously in need of a tune up. Yes they must modify them to do that because as someone mentioned after 2007 the diesel you buy at the pump is ultra low sulfur I believe 15ppm. The school bus I drive is an '07 and it barley smokes on initial stat up then no smoke once it is warmed up, and our mechanics keep them in excellent tune.
Anyway have a great day.

[GeorgeTSquirrel]

Originally Posted by Elefantino

I believe that it is every American's God-given right to behave as kindly or as angrily as he or she wishes.

There seems to be more and more of the latter, from politics to the public and everything in between. Then again, no one said freedom of expression doesn't have consequences.

If someone spits on the ground... so be it. If someone spits on me, different scenario.

rolling coal as they drive past me is more akin to spitting on me and quickly driving away... it's disgusting, it's cowardice, it's angry... but I don't consider it freedom of expression or a right (God-given, or otherwise).

[Schmed]

Originally Posted by GeorgeTSquirrel

rolling coal as they drive past me is more akin to spitting on me and quickly driving away... it's disgusting, it's cowardice, it's angry... but I don't consider it freedom of expression or a right (God-given, or otherwise).

"Your Liberty To Swing Your Fist Ends Just Where My Nose Begins"

It's simply about hating cyclists and I don't get it.

I had a debate at my office yesterday. Two of us are avid cyclists. Two others started talking how they'd like to run cyclists over and "1000 points for hitting a cyclist", and how cyclists should be on the sidewalk or not out at all.

It's amazing (and I told them)... they'd slam on their brakes for a rabbit or swerve for a deer, but they want to kill any cyclist instead of tapping their brakes or moving their steering wheel 3 millimeters to the left. I've had it with people like that. No respect for human life.

[avalonracing]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...answer-illegal

[HenryA]

Plenty of jackasses out there. Lots of nice people too.
Don't get all lathered up about every little slight.

Next time wave at 'em and smile.

[brando]

Originally Posted by redir

really all they are is a troll on the road and they are looking for your angry reaction.

+1

[Tony]

Originally Posted by bcroslin

I'm pretty sure it was in this very forum that someone mentioned ignorant rednecks chip their diesels to belch black smoke.

Slate confirms it

During the Sierra Century this year this happened to several of us. Someone yelled at a driver of a pickup truck because he came very close to the group. Called him a f@#king a hole. He backed up fast, hit the brakes and yelled obscenities, waited for us to get closer than floored it leaving a thick diesel smoke screen for us to suck on while on a steep climb.