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Old 06-20-2017, 03:50 PM
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OT: The lost era of long songs & Jams...

Okay, maybe not lost, but in todays processed, canned, auto tuned, prepackaged song era I don't see the progressive improvisational jams or long songs that marked the 60/70's era.

I won't say there isn't anyone doing that today, but I'm not really aware of any bands on that track. What are songs that you remember that top seven/ten minutes or more...past or present?

What have you got?

For starters:

The Allman Brothers - Mountain Jam (33:41)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNuNz2idDtY

(Leaving aside politics, the dude can shred the guitar) Ted Nugent - Hibernation (14:36)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M49j05LZ9WY

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Old 06-20-2017, 03:52 PM
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I give you Iron Butterfly...17 min of In a Gadda da Vida...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
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Old 06-23-2017, 01:42 PM
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I give you Iron Butterfly...17 min of In a Gadda da Vida...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIVe-rZBcm4
Thanks for that...my worn LP is around here somewhere. I am sure my first generation parents were wondering W T H that I was listening to in my room. Cycling content...rode my collegiate green schwinnn varsity without helmet (those were the days) across town to buy it at long gone discount store "White Front".
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:00 PM
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Speaking of immigrant parents, my mom went through my record collection when I was 17. She found a tape by Black Flag and became very concerned. At the time I thought Black Flag took their name from the roach killer and my literal brain never thought about the symbolism or historic context. In any case, my mom was convinced La Negra Bandera was satanic! She visited the local police station and had a detective examine a few of my tapes and CDs. Don't think I found my Black Flag stuff until my mid-20s.
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:54 PM
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Government Mule, Cortez the Killer.

Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush, Red House

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Old 06-20-2017, 04:09 PM
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radio cost too much and long jams have a small audience. the other thing that's lost is the ability to play something that's not on some programmers preapproved list. so instead we get various degrees of classic rock..but nothing that's too long.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:11 PM
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:33 PM
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:35 PM
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Grateful dead created the measuring stick atmo. A fine example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nALVLu7TbMM
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:59 PM
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Grateful dead created the measuring stick atmo. A fine example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nALVLu7TbMM
The Dead made this a part of their legacy but this video is from 1974. Sure, they put their own spin on the extended jam but they were late by a long time to Cream.

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This is from early in the Cream years, when the Clapton/Bruce/Baker wanted to drive & carry the show competing between themselves on stage. Dimed Marshalls, lousy PA.

But this got old 'n' tired fast even for these guys and just as those fleeting moments existed, soon under the weight of expectation, the virtuoso extended jam became something Clapton couldn't run away from fast enough.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:31 PM
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The Dead made this a part of their legacy but this video is from 1974. Sure, they put their own spin on the extended jam but they were late by a long time to Cream.
$.02: Cream formed in '66 I think. Dead formed '65 and as far as I know were on the road consistently by '66. Loads of drawn out, long jam-filled shows going back to the dead's beginning. If I'm not mistaken I don't think they were much later than Cream with that type of live approach. I love Cream, I love the dead.

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Old 06-20-2017, 06:30 PM
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Grateful dead created the measuring stick atmo. A fine example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nALVLu7TbMM
Yep, huge dead fan here.
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Old 06-22-2017, 07:47 PM
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grateful dead created the measuring stick atmo. A fine example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nalvlu7tbmm

this ^
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:21 PM
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radio cost too much and long jams have a small audience. the other thing that's lost is the ability to play something that's not on some programmers preapproved list. so instead we get various degrees of classic rock..but nothing that's too long.
Who listens to the radio anymore??

And here's something modern and 15 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJCI1yIdPj4

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