Dead Dogma

[philhan89]

this is hard to look at.

[mcteague]

Well, at least the areas with foam wrap were protected.

Tim

[madsciencenow]

Originally Posted by Peter P.

Keep us posted on the outcome of your friend's claim.

I'll bet the airline denies the claim and says the bike was not packaged properly.

You may be right but my response would be to ask what I’d need to in order to ensure this didn’t happen. Like do I need to pack my bike in a concrete case?

This does make me wonder, and apologies if I missed this, what kind of case was the bike in and what does it look like? To me the only way this happens if the bike is in a hard shell case is if a very heavy vehicle drives over the case, which I suspect would also be damaged. I suppose if someone took the bike out of the case there are other explanations as well?


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[fignon's barber]

Originally Posted by madsciencenow

This does make me wonder, and apologies if I missed this, what kind of case was the bike in and what does it look like? To me the only way this happens if the bike is in a hard shell case is if a very heavy vehicle drives over the case, which I suspect would also be damaged. I suppose if someone took the bike out of the case there are other explanations as well?

I have no way of knowing if this is true, but someone once told me that airlines strap big items down with large industrial strapping, and if they crank down the strapping to hard, you get this, even possibly with a hard case. There's no way I'd ever use a soft case.

[madsciencenow]

Originally Posted by fignon's barber

I have no way of knowing if this is true, but someone once told me that airlines strap big items down with large industrial strapping, and if they crank down the strapping to hard, you get this, even possibly with a hard case. There's no way I'd ever use a soft case.

Hadn’t thought of this as a possibility but it certainly seems like another potential culprit. Thanks for mentioning.


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[benb]

You break a carbon frame and you look at what's left and it does seemingly make you question how you are riding them without worrying about it.

But then if you saw one of those cut in half CAAD frames or something years ago you wondered about it with aluminum too.

The carbon frame I broke the top tube was like a piece of paper thin. 100% of the strength was all in the shape, once it was broken it was like 2 fingers could bend it.

The fork on the other hand is completely different.

[weisan]

This is not a typical break. It would take an enormous amount of force applied at just the right place to achieve that. Don't go all apocalyptic on me with flying with bikes, even plastic ones.

[notsew]

Originally Posted by weisan

This is not a typical break. It would take an enormous amount of force applied at just the right place to achieve that. Don't go all apocalyptic on me with flying with bikes, even plastic ones.

For real, **** happens. And this is as out as an outlier gets. I've got no qualms putting my plastic bike in a soft case and letting the airline do its thing. Life's too short to worry about stuff like that.

[benb]

Agreed that looks more like it got run over by the plane than the tug!

It's similar to something like putting the bike onto a roof rack and then running it into something overhead, although not quite the same.

It's pretty weird how many places it broke at. For example running it into something on a roof would be more likely to just break the DT/TT near the head tube.

If I had to guess maybe I'd guess a load applied down on the saddle or forward on the saddle.

[bicycletricycle]

That is extremely broken

[pwgoode]

That sort of damage seems almost hard to accomplish without intention. Baggage handler having a bad day?

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by weisan

This is not a typical break. It would take an enormous amount of force applied at just the right place to achieve that. Don't go all apocalyptic on me with flying with bikes, even plastic ones.

Pay yer money, take your chances. This isn't the first expensive 'something' the airlines have killed and it won't be the last.

Pretty typical....We had a customer who picked up his hard case with bike in it from the airlines with a tire tread marks over the middle of it and yup, the Calfee inside was indeed broken..as was the Trico Case. Brought it to us for an estimate. After MUCH wrangling..he was re-imbursed..Like other 'industries', the airlines have a legion of lawyers to try to save the airlines $$.

[AngryScientist]

Totally sucks but at least that’s a new frame that should be very easily replaced; and easy to valuate for a claim. Hope the owner can be reimbursed for this.

[GParkes]

Did the plane crash ????

[Ken Robb]

I heard a rumor that they sub-contracted with Boeing to build their frames.