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Kramer: Oh. Well listen, I almost forgot to ask you. What happened at the
funeral? Now, did you talk to Alec berg? Jerry: Yeah, I saw him. Kramer: Alright, so he's gonna give you the hockey tickets, huh? Jerry: Well, not exactly. Kramer: He's mad, isn't he? See, I knew it. Jerry: I don't know if he's mad. Kramer: Alright, so what happened when you saw him? Jerry: Well, I didn't really get a good 'hello', but see, I was at a funeral. Kramer: Uh huh. Jerry: See, so I don't know if I got a funeral 'hello' or he was mad because he didn't get his day-after 'thank you'. Kramer: See, I told you, Jerry, I told you! Jerry: Look, what do you want me to do? Kramer: I want you to get on this phone and give him his 'thank you'! Jerry: No. No, I can't! Kramer: Jerry, this is the way society functions. Aren't you a part of society? Because if you don't want to be a part of society, Jerry, why don't you just get in your car and move to the East Side! Jerry: Look, we got five hours before the game. I am betting it was a funeral 'hello'. He knows we're here, he knows the number, he knows we want to go. There's plenty of time for him to call and give us the tickets. Kramer: You stubborn, stupid, silly man! |
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I spent my formative years -- 1971-78, age 10-17 -- in Rockland County, so I visited NYC fairly regularly in the 70s. In 1987 (after undergrad and career building in Boston) I moved to NYC, lived here for 5 years, then went back to Boston to get a graduate degree, and came back to NYC in 2000, been here ever since. It's definitely a very different city than it was in the 70s. It's a different city than it was in '86. And it's a different city than it was even as recently as '00. But the thing that's been the same about all those different eras, and all my different stints as an NYC resident, is this: If you don't take advantage of the resources/opportunities that NYC offers, it's just a big noisy expensive city where you can survive without owning a car. Now, I'm sure NYC offers more resources/opportunities than most cities in the world -- so perhaps that's how it's unrivaled by any except Tokyo or Paris? -- but there's nothing about living in NYC that compels one, much less demands one, to take advantage of those resources/opportunities. They could just be a distraction. It's entirely possible to live here and not take advantage of anything that makes it quintessentially "New York City". I don't want a city that rivals that; I want a city whose uniqueness pervades everything about it such that I can't help but take advantage of its resources/opportunities. The only demand NYC makes of its residents is survival. |
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I don't get what the big deal is. Undoubtedly, there are positives and negatives, of which both run the gamut from the trivial to the profound. For me, it's a net-positive; for others, it's a net-negative -- maybe even hugely so. I get that, and I wouldn't try to convince the latter group otherwise. NYC is certainly not for everyone.
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My 3rd job was at an advertising agency in an old parking garage over the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel. That was 1982. It was street walker paradise in those days and they would be standing by the entrance when you left for the evening.
One day the brand manager for Pillsbury traveled from Minneapolis to our offices for a meeting. He was lamenting with the owner the hazards he faced just coming to our offices. As he crossed his legs we noticed he had a used condom stuck to the bottom of his shoe. |
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We did a couple of years in Brooklyn when we moved back from Yrup, and then moved out to Rockland County.
So I'm in the city infrequently--but I have to agree with the pro side on this--there is nowhere else like NYC that I have seen. Yes it can be incredibly irritating (I've been in that traffic jam on the Onion piece), or worse--like the time that I was trying to get somewhere and there was a crash on BQE--and we sat in our cars for two hours...) Yes to the noise, the honking (an NYC thing)--when I clamber up to daylight after the train ride in, the city hits me like a wave--too much input, auditory, sensory--too much motion, too many people. But then I get my city legs back, and I revel in it--sights, sounds, peeps, craziness... I loved when I was able to ride my bike down Broadway and deke with the cabs, love the art, the theater (which we can't really afford of late). I was only in the city a few times in the '80s--tail end of the graffitied subway cars, dangerous nabes and needing to have your street face on when you were out and about, and hearing stories from my friends who grew up in the Village (or performed there) in the early '70s--I wish I could time travel back to earlier versions of New York--but I find the one that I visit still fascinating. Last edited by paredown; 03-15-2017 at 02:15 PM. |
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For whatever reason this thread reminds me of this.....
Green acres is the place for me. Farm livin' is the life for me. Land spreadin' out so far and wide Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside. New York is where I'd rather stay. I get allergic smelling hay. I just adore a penthouse view. Dah-ling I love you but give me Park Avenue.
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We had a lady from Long Island (I’ll call her Laura) working in my department. If anything she was about 4 foot tall in platform shoes. Mean as a pit bull if you got on her bad side. This was 1983.
She had a boyfriend who worked a few blocks away so they would get together in his car at lunch time for some “quality time” on 39th street. The cops busted her for solicitation and she got so mad she knocked down a 6 foot cop during the arrest (he never pressed charges for the obvious reasons). I had to leave work to go down to the precinct to bail her out. The owner of our company laughed his a** off. |
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I was sincere in the points I was making. As far as NYC being a city meant for greatness - that was an honest appraisal too. Look, the United States of America is the richest, most powerful nation state on earth. It is only logical that at least one of the cities of the United States of America should by all rights and endowments be a great city of the world if only by the sole virtue of this city being uplifted by standing on the shoulders of the most powerful nation state on earth. It also stands to reason that by history and prestige a great city might arise from one of the three great cities from among those of the founding 13 colonies: Boston, New York and Philadelphia. A great city I define as both possessing and exercising wealth, power and influence. With at least these three elements is the gravitation towards the critical mass to engender and perpetuate more of the same. This is what makes for a great city; not a city defined as the one most attractive to my preference. If the city intrinsic vibe(s) and my preference(s) are complementary then so much the better. If not, then this city will grind me into nothingness. Quote:
There's too much nuance for me to answer what you've posted above and I'm not sure it matters to either of us anyway. You wanna knock NYC, fine. All the criticism is not that far off base but, in fairness, what NYC does have is also unequalled - as long as you are open to whatever that quality is. I love this town. |
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